Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 181pl said: A $200 antibody treatment is much better than a month stay in the hospital and a $1 million hospital bill that a lot of people will never end up paying. That comes back to you and I paying for it. Either through taxes or higher insurance premiums. A few dollars that the vaccine costs is, again, easier, cheaper, safer and more abundant. This angle that is being pushed is legitimately delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: And monoclonal antibodies are only for *post* infection treatment. So of course you offer a criticism that isn't solve by your "solution" at all. Here you go. Straight from your sacred govt. They offer temporary immunity and then your body has natural immunity once recovered. Again, both should be prioritized. Shots and treatments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 So high risk patients can get treatment and not be sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, 181pl said: Here you go. Straight from your sacred govt. Uh, yeah, I know that Florida is pushing this nonsense. I said so above. The state's Surgeon General is a buffoon. Florida Gov. DeSantis Taps A New Surgeon General Who Doesn't Support Vaccine Mandates "This idea that people don't get to make their own decisions on issues of health related to their own personal health is wrong," Ladapo said, answering questions from reporters. "Vaccines are up to the person; there's nothing special about them compared to any other preventive measure." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: Exactly. Complete horseshit. The vaccines are useful if in fact they lessen the severity of an infection. I don’t think they’re super effective in preventing infections or spread. But then again, the antibody treatments are probably much more effective once administered. They both need to be used in concert. Pinhead liberals think they’re committing some sin against humanity if they advocate for treatment. It’s not one or the other. It’s both. they need to be quit being fucking morons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: So high risk patients can get treatment and not be sick. You can only get a treatment if you have already tested positive or are immunocompromised and *may* have been exposed to someone with COVID. You can't just walk in and get it. Again this is stupid with a vaccine readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 so if you’re high-risk and had a vaccine that’s not very effective against you catching it, you should go get the antibody treatment. The way it was working is you were making an appointment online through your portal. But now everything is halted because we are completely out of antibody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 181pl said: But then again, the antibody treatments are probably much more effective once administered. Based on complete hocus pocus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: Exactly. Complete horseshit. The vaccines are useful if in fact they lessen the severity of an infection. I don’t think they’re super effective in preventing infections or spread. It's amazing what people will make up in order to prop up their political beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, 181pl said: Pinhead liberals think they’re committing some sin against humanity if they advocate for treatment. It’s not one or the other. It’s both. they need to be quit being fucking morons I absolutely think someone should get monoclonal antibodies if they're moderately or severely ill. But they should not be promoted as a cure-all or as preventative or as safer and more effective than the vaccine. Which is what bozos like you and others are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: so if you’re high-risk and had a vaccine that’s not very effective against you catching it, You're just making this up. Completely out of thin air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: But now everything is halted because we are completely out of antibody. I wonder how this could've happened? Bozos like you pushing it as a cure-all and a wonder treatment to ignorant people who refuse to get vaccinated. So they just wait until they get sick and then try to get the treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 So now the CDC cuts isolation to 5 days as opposed to 10. Why? New science? Nope. Seems they are afraid of tanking the economy, with people having to isolate. People stuck in airports etc. What happened to preventing one more death? Economy trumps lives? Seems elections focus the minds of Democrats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I was taking my information directly from the Florida portal. Take it up with them Finch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I wonder how this could've happened? Bozos like you pushing it as a cure-all and a wonder treatment to ignorant people who refuse to get vaccinated. So they just wait until they get sick and then try to get the treatment. you’re not really that stupid. You just play a fucking idiot on this website. I’m not pushing any narratives. I’m your average person. I told you I’ve been vaccinated. So I’m not anti-VAX. You’re just a fucking idiot that can’t see through your own red tape. We need both vaccines and treatment. Grow up moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, 181pl said: I was taking my information directly from the Florida portal. Take it up with them Finch Where did you get your information that the vaccines aren't effective at stopping infection and that monoclonal antibodies were "probably much more effective"? Probably straight from your ass crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, 181pl said: I’m not pushing any narratives. You've lied several times just in this thread about the effectiveness of the vaccine. You've compounded that lie by completely making up the effectiveness of the antibody treatments. What other reason would you have to purposefully ignore known facts and state falsehoods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Where did you get your information that the vaccines aren't effective at stopping infection and that monoclonal antibodies were "probably much more effectives"? Probably straight from your ass crack. I really thought you were smarter than this. Look above idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, 181pl said: So I’m not anti-VAX. Then why are you lying about the effectiveness of them? And then doubling down by lying about the effectiveness of the antibody treatments while pushing for their use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I had three friends test positive in the last two days who have triple vaccinations. You tell me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, 181pl said: Not a single fact or statistic cited here. Just propaganda to aggrandize DeSantis. This is not surprising to those who are intimately familiar with this Governor and his motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, 181pl said: I really thought you were smarter than this. Look above idiot You're now trying to artfully dodge the question. Why did you lie about the vaccines and then lie about the effectiveness of the antibody treatments? Simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: I had three friends test positive in the last two days who have triple vaccinations. You tell me? So anecdotal evidence is what made you lie about the effectiveness of vaccines? And you want to call other people stupid? You're embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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