Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 And I bet nobody who has ever had an antibody treatment has ever tested positive, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: So anecdotal evidence is what made you lie about the effectiveness of vaccines? And you want to call other people stupid? You're embarrassing. Listen you’re an embarrassment to yourself and all of us. We give you real life facts and you call anecdotal. Remember when they were saying that Moderna and Pfizer had an over 90% effectiveness against catching and spreading corona? Those days are long gone it’s probably closer to 50% or less I’ll leave it up to you to find the numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 181pl said: We give you real life facts and you call anecdotal. You lied about the effectiveness of the vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: We give you real life facts and you call anecdotal. What's more is that you don't even seem to understand what anecdotal means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 so to me, the usefulness of the vaccine is to lessen infection. But that’s still not the same As viable treatments.So you can argue until you’re blue in the face but you’re still going to sound like a damn moron. We should be helping our fellow humans and not making light of effective treatment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: Remember when they were saying that Moderna and Pfizer had an over 90% effectiveness against catching and spreading corona? Those days are long gone it’s probably closer to 50% or less I’ll leave it up to you to find the numbers From November. 👇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, 181pl said: so to me, the usefulness of the vaccine is to lessen infection. So in order to avoid responsibility for your craven lies you pivot to the "to me" defense which allows you to completely change the subject. The vaccine has proven effective in lessening infection, hospitalization and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 how many times did you fail math or statistics? I don’t need charts showing infections for unvaccinated people. Tell me the effectiveness of the vaccines (through a percentage) of preventing the disease in the vaccinated. That’s what I want to know. You failed to give us any information related to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: So in order to avoid responsibility for your craven lies you pivot to the "to me" defense which allows you to completely change the subject. The vaccine has proven effective in lessening infection, hospitalization and death. That should’ve said to lessen the severity of the infection. My faux pas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, 181pl said: But that’s still not the same As viable treatments. 👇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, 181pl said: So you can argue until you’re blue in the face but you’re still going to sound like a damn moron. You've been doing nothing but lying your ass off and just making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, 181pl said: We should be helping our fellow humans and not making light of effective treatment And the clearest way to do that is to encourage vaccination since it's: Easier Safer More effective Cheaper The people who ignore this and still push magic treatments are hacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 181pl said: how many times did you fail math or statistics? You've been bumbling and stumbling around simply making up numbers while I've been giving you actual data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, 181pl said: Tell me the effectiveness of the vaccines (through a percentage) of preventing the disease in the vaccinated. That’s what I want to know. You failed to give us any information related to that. Every approved vaccine had an efficacy of over 70%. The best ones (Moderna, Pfizer) are over 90%. These charts tell you what you want to know. But you will ignore it so you can continue to push your garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 181pl said: That should’ve said to lessen the severity of the infection. My faux pas It's been proven to do that. As the charts show. You refuse to accept reality and walk back your lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: What does this have to do with the 35% of people who refuse to get vaccinated? You may think what you're doing is harmless but the constant nitpicking and nonsense pushing of antibody treatments increases the likelihood that people will not get vaccinated which is the easiest, safest and least costly way to end the pandemic. Or reduce the Covid strain to that of the flu, basically a nuisance. Absolutely get the vaccine, reduce severe Covid and hospitalization. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Bormio said: … hell, it’s a start (there is no federal solution to a whole bunch of problems) He is right. Our forefathers screwed the pooch with states rights. We can never solve anything with 50 states running off in 50 differant directions. Merry Christmas! I trust all your family is healthy, happy and safe. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Or reduce the Covid strain to that of the flu, basically a nuisance. Absolutely get the vaccine, reduce severe Covid and hospitalization. bgw Nuisance? I have had the flu 4 times in my life, been hospitalized 2 of those times. I never understand how folks trivialize such a debilitating illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, noonereal said: Nuisance? I have had the flu 4 times in my life, been hospitalized 2 of those times. I never understand how folks trivialize such a debilitating illness. So, what are you saying? Are you saying that the flu hospitalizations were a welcome vacay away from whatever it is you do? Nuisance times infinity pain and suffering, how’s that Nooner? Whats the matter, coal in your fucking stocking this year? Happy New FluLess Year Nuisance Nooner. Haha bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, noonereal said: He is right. Our forefathers screwed the pooch with states rights. We can never solve anything with 50 states running off in 50 differant directions. Merry Christmas! I trust all your family is healthy, happy and safe. 🙂 United States and not United State is one of the basic points of this country. If you you want a massive central government where everything is governed from one cesspit of a city, go somewhere else. Or just wait. The leftists are getting us there slowly but surely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, noonereal said: Nuisance? I have had the flu 4 times in my life, been hospitalized 2 of those times. I never understand how folks trivialize such a debilitating illness. Man flu does not count. Seriously, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and hope the New Year brings everything you want except Pelosi as Speaker. Still need to go to a Bosco game. Trust you saw Gaffney ended Dutch Fork’s 62 game unbeaten streak and won state 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 11 hours ago, concha said: United States and not United State is one of the basic points of this country. If you you want a massive central government where everything is governed from one cesspit of a city, go somewhere else. Or just wait. The leftists are getting us there slowly but surely. Federalism works more than it fails but noonereal is not wrong which is why you didn't even attempt to say so. What you posted here is not an argument at all. It's just a take it or leave it. Which is *also* his point to an extent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Federalism works more than it fails but noonereal is not wrong which is why you didn't even attempt to say so. What you posted here is not an argument at all. It's just a take it or leave it. Which is *also* his point to an extent. ^^^ This entire post is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 "Gene Therapy" - these are not vaccines as defined by the Center of Disease Control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: This entire post is bullshit. You didn't even attempt to refute noonereal's comment. That's because he's pretty much correct. Federalism *does* inhibit responses to national and international events like pandemics. You just like to come to attack people for the sake of it even if you don't have anything to actually say on the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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