Frosty4024 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: IMG had no fans at that tournament period. IMG has fans??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospeeder Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: AAU, Twitter and evaluators are on blast 24/7…. If you ever get a chance to go to a December “showcase” you’ll know exactly what’s on the periphery driving this madness. It ain’t always the players. Open your mind to the bigger cancer not the symptoms. 😁😁😁 bgw There is a great book if you can find or download it called Raw Recruits by Alexander Wolff. It supports what you stated in your post... as it gets down deep in the corruption and sludge of basketball from HS through College that the casual sports fan is not aware of. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan in daytona Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 hours ago, maxchoboian said: Definitely more movement in hoops, but holy bejesus! HS nomad Dior Johnson Knowing nothing of the young man besides "maxchoboian's" original post, first off you have to pity the kid. Has he no family, guardian, father figure, or anybody not blinded by potential dollars his talents may generate ? What poor excuse for an entourage will this child carry along if he makes it and scores big..$$$. I see losers, leeches and charlatans ready to suck him dry. No way in hell should a teenager go to ten different high school to PLAY BALL. The court system should have intervened earlier in his life for "Parental Incompetence." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan in daytona Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 6 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: Problem is they swap AAU teams and trust their AAU coach more than their own parents or HS coach. No, he doesn't get to decide to bounce around the country to please coaches. Where's his family, somebody looking out for him ? Teenagers don't get that freedom. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldballcoach Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 9:31 PM, badrouter said: I can not understand why anyone would care to follow players like this. Nor can I understand why any coach would want to have him on their team. He doesn't give a shit about any of the teams, and so none of the teams or their fans should give a shit about him. Don't exploit him, simply don't offer him a spot on the team, or a penny of your money to watch him. My experience take it for what it is worth. College coaches are full of you know what. They talk you need grades and character unless you are a 4/5 star then they dont give as long as you dont get arrested and can clear the NCAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Oldballcoach said: My experience take it for what it is worth. College coaches are full of you know what. They talk you need grades and character unless you are a 4/5 star then they dont give as long as you dont get arrested and can clear the NCAA. Seems like more good reasons to start ignoring all of them. I want so bad to do this, clearly I just need football rehab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldballcoach Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 16 hours ago, badrouter said: Seems like more good reasons to start ignoring all of them. I want so bad to do this, clearly I just need football rehab. Thats what I have always done with college guys ignore them they dont listen they just waste your day BSing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 1:02 PM, OldTerrapin said: If anyone bothered to actually read the article the kid is from upstate New York You see the operative word here is "read". We know how ga96 has his troubles with that. Unless it's lowmeds. Then all of a sudden he a scholar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 3:12 PM, OldTerrapin said: ehhh basketball sucks so I doubt anyone cares. BB days as a big money sport are numbered anyway.. who wants to root for a team when you don't know who the players are going to be each year?..lame Agreed. The peak of the sport has long passed. Now it’s a bunch of entitled, tattooed, stoned morons who have very little fundamental skills. The SJWBA is garbage. There is nothing compelling about the sport on any level outside of a few players like Giannis and Curry. Even the coaches are dislikable. I’m surprised the NBA has any ratings. I guess they do well in major cities because it’s a tradition but most of us don’t give a shit anymore. I miss the Magic and Bird days that’s for sure. That’s when it was a great sport and fun to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2015 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 I’m guessing coaching HS or AAU basketball is kind of like coaching a team of only wide receivers. Everybody wants the ball all the time and doesn’t want to hear “relax, you’ll get your shots”. Bitch, whine, move on. But they should take note of who’s been winning national championships in college recently — Villanova, Baylor, Virginia with Gonzaga and Purdue honing in. Those teams weren’t/aren’t a collection of stars but actually play as a team. But that only matters to the guys who want to win more than worry about their stat line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: I’m guessing coaching HS or AAU basketball is kind of like coaching a team of only wide receivers. Everybody wants the ball all the time and doesn’t want to hear “relax, you’ll get your shots”. Bitch, whine, move on. But they should take note of who’s been winning national championships in college recently — Villanova, Baylor, Virginia with Gonzaga and Purdue honing in. Those teams weren’t/aren’t a collection of stars but actually play as a team. But that only matters to the guys who want to win more than worry about their stat line Adding to your post a bit, a good club director on the AAU level will place these players with the right coach and teammates. bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, NJ2015 said: I’m guessing coaching HS or AAU basketball is kind of like coaching a team of only wide receivers. Everybody wants the ball all the time and doesn’t want to hear “relax, you’ll get your shots”. Bitch, whine, move on. But they should take note of who’s been winning national championships in college recently — Villanova, Baylor, Virginia with Gonzaga and Purdue honing in. Those teams weren’t/aren’t a collection of stars but actually play as a team. But that only matters to the guys who want to win more than worry about their stat line Trust me 80% of AAU ball is very average or bad. The teams with these 4 and 5 stars are very few. Most of these games are blowouts big mismatch. You got a team with two 5 star guards and rest are 3 or 4 stars vs a team a local daddy put together with his kids friends so he can say his kid plays AAU travel ball then you see the 84-12 type scores. Hoover's Finley center which has 9 courts in it has 200 teams in for a summer AAU tournament 160 of those teams are average to bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Adding to your post a bit, a good club director on the AAU level will place these players with the right coach and teammates. bgw You understand but the average person has no clue the difference in FBC elite, Carolina elite, NYGhoops, vs an average aau team. Like a guy told me if your players are not flying to tournaments you are not elite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: You understand but the average person has no clue the difference in FBC elite, Carolina elite, NYGhoops, vs an average aau team. Like a guy told me if your players are not flying to tournaments you are not elite. 27 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Trust me 80% of AAU ball is very average or bad. The teams with these 4 and 5 stars are very few. Most of these games are blowouts big mismatch. You got a team with two 5 star guards and rest are 3 or 4 stars vs a team a local daddy put together with his kids friends so he can say his kid plays AAU travel ball then you see the 84-12 type scores. Hoover's Finley center which has 9 courts in it has 200 teams in for a summer AAU tournament 160 of those teams are average to bad. AAU / CYO hoops in NY and D.C. have had stacked rosters from the beginning of time putting beat downs on teams by 40-50 pts regularly. This is from 1996, I was in HS playing ball in NYC and Westchester. Elton Brand was in our varsity league during the season, so our team had to not only get beat by his State Champion HS team (Peekskill) twice a year, but also in the Summer get beat up some more playing against Riverside Church NYC during AAU games (video above). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, NYHSFAN33 said: AAU / CYO hoops in NY and D.C. have had stacked rosters from the beginning of time putting beat downs on teams by 40-50 pts regularly. This is from 1996, I was in HS playing ball in NYC and Westchester. Elton Brand was in our varsity league during the season, so our team had to not only get beat by his State Champion HS team (Peekskill) twice a year, but also in the Summer get beat up some more playing against Riverside Church NYC during AAU games (video above). I have been to a few AAU big tournaments most of the games were big blowouts. I'm talking 30 point wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: You understand but the average person has no clue the difference in FBC elite, Carolina elite, NYGhoops, vs an average aau team. Like a guy told me if your players are not flying to tournaments you are not elite. Yes, and the elite clubs are invite only outside of open tryouts hosted by the club. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Brand was always smart about his profile and image. He got a lot of attention in HS and especially in Westchester County and he was handling like a pro as a kid: https://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/25/nyregion/basketball-star-who-scores-on-court-and-tests.html 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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