Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, steeler01 said: There's more parity among 7 teams. Theres more parity with the other 20. As an example, Abilene was the best in Texas in 09. They’re not on your 7 team list but very much a quality champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Centennial’s close games with California teams the last 6 seasons. 2021: Centennial 16 - Mater Dei 21 2020: Centennial 36 - 38 2019: Centennial 41 - Cathedral 44 2016: Centennial 47 - St John Bosco 49 Close Texas games using your teams in your Texas list: Katy 2021: Katy 34 - Summer Creek 31 Katy 28 - Dickinson 21 Katy 21 - The Woodlands 14 2020: Katy 19 - Katy Tompkins 24 2019: Katy 27 - Cy Fair 14 Katy 35 - Ridge Point 28 Katy 35 - Katy Tompkins 30 2018: Katy 31 - Atascocita 28 Southlake Carroll Westlake North Shore Euless Trinity Could you tell me what you consider close, (under 2 TDs) ? All close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I see you avoided the West Brook topic. It's no coincidence why these 2nd tier teams are making the finals. Westbrook, So what? The only reason they made the title game is b/c Westlake was injured. A Westlake program that has been one of the best the past few years. you havent had a gotcha moment since we started this exercise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Theres more parity with the other 20. As an example, Abilene was the best in Texas in 09. They’re not on your 7 team list but very much a quality champion Were they though? That's the type of team that Trinity in the past would feast on. Small upfront and a limited passing game The Sims cousins would've had a tough go and that small defense would've been up agadir a much more physical team than they faced that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Westbrook, So what? The only reason they made the title game is b/c Westlake was injured. They didn’t win either. you havent had a gotcha moment since we started this exercise. You brought them up All of these 2nd tier teams like a Dekaney make the state games because your best teams are in the other division. Guyer same thing. They avoided Duncanville, Allen(who beat guyer)and Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Were they though? That's the type of team that Trinity in the past would feast on. Small upfront and a limited passing game The Sims cousins would've had a tough go and that small defense would've been up agadir a much more physical team than they faced that year Trinity was beat in predistrict by cedar hill in ‘09, a team Abilene blew out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Trinity was beat in predistrict by cedar hill in ‘09, a team Abilene put away. Yes I watched the game. I watched cedar hill many times that year. Abilene wasn't a juggernaut in 09 and the A beats B beats C argument doesn't hold. Permian in 07 beat Trinity and got destroyed by them in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, steeler01 said: You brought them up All of these 2nd tier teams like a Dekaney make the state games because your best teams are in the other division. Guyer same thing. They avoided Duncanville, Allen(who beat guyer)and Carroll. Of course I brought them up. They were in the finals in D2, that’s a fact. dekaney was legit in ‘11. Guyer at the end of the year would have beaten Allen, SLC and given DV all they could handle. A legit D2 title contender and top 5 team that found their groove and played to their talent the last 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Of course I brought them up. They were in the finals in D2, that’s a fact. dekaney was legit in ‘11. Guyer at the end of the year would have beaten Allen, SLC and given DV all they could handle. A legit D2 title contender and top 5 team Dekaney was crap This year? There's no way in hell they beat Carroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, steeler01 said: All close All the Texas teams that have “dominated Texas” in your list over the “past 20 year” have been beaten or been in very close games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Horsefly said: Since 2016 here are the Texas 6A state champs: North shore, Westlake, Katy, Allen, lake travis, Desoto, Cy fair, longview. In Cali : MD and SJB. You really are clueless This is incredibly dishonest. Comparing two divisions (Texas) to one (California) and an objective playoff (Texas) to a subjective one (California). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, steeler01 said: That's irrelevant. That's horsefly's specialty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Dekaney was crap This year? There's no way in hell they beat Carroll I’m not interested in your subjective thoughts. You’ll say whatever to try to win a point … that’s clear yes, had they played SLC in the D2 finals Guyer wins. They had a D to make SLC 1 dimensional similar to what they did to WL, took away the run game. (WL had a better OL than SLC) Watch the games closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: All the Texas teams that have “dominated Texas” in your list over the “past 20 year” have been beaten or been in very close games. As has SJB/Mater Dei. Mater Dei played two close games against Servite and Centennial SJB was beaten by Servite and have been in one score games against teams twice in the last 3 years. 2021 SJB 24 Servite 10 Servite 40 SJB 21 2020 SJB 38 Servite 28 2019 SJB 27 Servite 26 2018 SJB 35 Jserra 28 2017 SJB 40 Santa Margarita 38 SJB 35 Bishop Amat 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, SeaShells21 said: Yes, but those teams are consistently in close games with other Texas teams. Some state powers, some area powers, some up-and-comers. Because their peaks are not as good as Mater Dei's and St. John Bosco's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I’m not interested in your subjective thoughts. You’ll say whatever to try to win a point … that’s clear yes, had they played SLC in the D2 finals Guyer wins. They had a D to make SLC 1 dimensional similar to what they did to WL, took away the run game. (WL had a better OL than SLC) Watch the games closely They had a better O- Line cause they didn't face Duncanville. Allen did whatever they wanted to that defense. Did I mention that Guyer's offensive line sucked? Prosper made that unit look foolish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Because their peaks are not as good as Mater Dei's and St. John Bosco's. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: They had a better O- Line cause they didn't face Duncanville. Allen did whatever they wanted to that defense. Did I mention that Guyer's offensive line sucked? Prosper made that unit look foolish Who are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Who are you talking about? Westlake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: Your argument that there's diversity is trash. You have two divisions and you play it off like if it's similar to any other set up. Every state the way Texas is set up would have diversity in their finals. Exactamente. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: midway, cy fair, Longview, Westbrook, guyer, Westlake, Katy, cedar hill. 8 diff finalists and 4 diff champions the last 5 years. This is a fact! Lol Most of those teams were trash and only got there because of the split divisions with several easy paths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: It’s comes back to parity. If your top teams aren't as good (and they're not) then its easier to have what some might call parity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Most of those teams were trash and only got there because of the split divisions with several easy paths. He knows that. Why he plays dumb is beyond me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Westlake What the hell was DV going to do WL O for 4 quarters besides get worn down late in the game? Their O would have done them no favors with the 3 and outs they would have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You’ll say whatever to try to win a point … that’s clear 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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