AztecPadre Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 For me no doubt was the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. I never heard about these during any of my american history classes in school. It wasn't until the late 90's when our local Monterey Herald did a story on the locals that were interred. Along with what happened in Detroit too. Any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I recently found out that there was college football before 1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: For me no doubt was the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. I never heard about these during any of my american history classes in school. It wasn't until the late 90's when our local Monterey Herald did a story on the locals that were interred. Along with what happened in Detroit too. Any others? All the people the Clinton's have killed. Billy "The Kid", and "Calamity" Clinton have been taking people out one by one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: All the people the Clinton's have killed. Billy "The Kid", and "Calamity" Clinton have been taking people out one by one. Best trick the devil pulled was making people believe he didn't exist. Clintons learned well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I was never taught that my ancestors were enslaved by Africans via the Barbary Slave Trade. I had to be told by family members that we are descendants of slaves but not to be judgmental of modern day Africans. It was not there fault and they should not be guilt tripped and scrutinized for something that happened hundreds of years before they were born https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: I recently found out that there was college football before 1983 That is because FSU sucked before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bormio said: That is because FSU sucked before then. Not really. From 1977-1982 (6 years), Florida State finished in the coaches poll top 11 in the country 4 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 hours ago, AztecPadre said: For me no doubt was the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. I never heard about these during any of my american history classes in school. It wasn't until the late 90's when our local Monterey Herald did a story on the locals that were interred. Along with what happened in Detroit too. Any others? we learned about the concentration camps. But everybody from Middle School up tried to avoid talking about slavery like it was aids.... hell we got wrote up in HS for mentioning the KKK,Black Panther Group,anything up that alley. it wasnt until 10th grade that a teacher actually started talking about it. mr.Cain I remember him well he actually ended up getting fired... He was cool. But parents where actually upset with him because he taught it to us bare bones. he didnt cut any corners. didnt leave out anything and of course people where not happy with that. Hell I used to stay after school and have conversations about history and politics with him. I remember I helped him pack his stuff... when he had to go and the principal stood there apologizing..... to me and a few others. I simply told the principal"You can't dodge history. And ignoring it will only make the current situation worse." Mr.Cain is now at Jeff Davis HS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 11 hours ago, AztecPadre said: For me no doubt was the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. I never heard about these during any of my american history classes in school. It wasn't until the late 90's when our local Monterey Herald did a story on the locals that were interred. Along with what happened in Detroit too. Any others? For me, an event that's politicized now 127,000 Japanese were sent to Intenrnment camps -- people that want to politicize will call them Concentration camps, but that term seems wildly inappropriate for a place where the inmates had schools, housing, mess halls, and were paid to work (optional) at the same time that real concentration camps were killing 6 million people through horrific means including forced labor, starvation, kill houses, and medical experiments did you know these camps only existed for 2 years? Im not suggesting the camps were right decision, but people politicizing will tell you that 2/3 of internees were born in America, while ignoring that 1/3 were born in Japan -- put in context of the the times, the decision was perhaps overly cautious but hardly barbaric and was reversed just as soon as the US was clearly winning the Pacific War and a year before it was over C'mon, Padre, how about the Spanish Inquisition or genicide of multiple ancient American civilizations? How about America bullying Mexico and stealing California from them in a forced war (which the US has done twice vs Hispanic countries in what were clearly land grabs)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: I was never taught that my ancestors were enslaved by Africans via the Barbary Slave Trade. I had to be told by family members that we are descendants of slaves but not to be judgmental of modern day Africans. It was not there fault and they should not be guilt tripped and scrutinized for something that happened hundreds of years before they were born https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli....." Semper Fi evened the score for your ancestors and I'd recommend the book Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates: the forgotten war that changed American history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 13 hours ago, AztecPadre said: For me no doubt was the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. I never heard about these during any of my american history classes in school. It wasn't until the late 90's when our local Monterey Herald did a story on the locals that were interred. Along with what happened in Detroit too. Any others? the internment camps here in america? is that what your talking about? it was in my history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Drummer61 said: AngelinaJolie made a movie about this not to long ago...The soldier who helped her with it and survived the camp mentioned recently died...He also said that the camp commander in the the move was NOT nearly as brutal as the real one..No,history is no longer taught with honesty in the govt school system...Kid todayknow very little and can be easily manipulated....and they are....IE.....who was the only lady hung by the US govt and why ??? Don't look it up.....see if any of you know the answer,don't cheat as I say nobody knows.. Ask a kid who killed Abe Lincoln or who was Boston Corbett... Lincoln? Who's that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: No,no ....The Japanese camps were the worst...Ie forced road marches,,,Look it up.. Nothing at all to do with our nice internment camps...The was called UNBROKEN... well yea the japanese put people through hell. batton death march comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Drummer61 said: AngelinaJolie made a movie about this not to long ago...The soldier who helped her with it and survived the camp mentioned recently died...He also said that the camp commander in the the move was NOT nearly as brutal as the real one..No,history is no longer taught with honesty in the govt school system...Kid todayknow very little and can be easily manipulated....and they are....IE.....who was the only lady hung by the US govt and why ??? Don't look it up.....see if any of you know the answer,don't cheat as I say nobody knows.. Ask a kid who killed Abe Lincoln or who was Boston Corbett... Mary Suratt is the only lady to be hung i believe for helping john wilkes booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: Now you got it..See the movie UNBROKEN and picture much worse..I have read authentic books on this and they were among the worst..If you the book," The Rising Sun" bu oreily and Dugard you will get the historically correct insight into Japanese leadership..Oh boy will you shit !!!! ill have to see it as a lover of history esp WW2 and the American Civil War. Cant get enough of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Correct,Surratt was 42 years and hung for five extra minutes before she died....They all hung for 20 minutes and were buried right away..There were at least 10 conspirators involved in Lincolns killing.. Boston Corbett shot John Wilkes Booth who was an avowed racist and avid segregationist.. Was I the first person on the board to get the answer correct?? Booth was pissed off that the south lost the war and he vowed that the south will rise again. He basically called Lincoln a tyrant before he shot him in the head at Fords Theater. I like old school justice you did something you didnt wait long before they hung you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Read those by Oreilly,even if you don't like him as they factual... The Rising Sun will blow you away.. I read Killing Kennedy by O Reilly it was really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendsofthefall Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Drummer61 said: AngelinaJolie made a movie about this not to long ago...The soldier who helped her with it and survived the camp mentioned recently died...He also said that the camp commander in the the move was NOT nearly as brutal as the real one..No,history is no longer taught with honesty in the govt school system...Kid todayknow very little and can be easily manipulated....and they are....IE.....who was the only lady hung by the US govt and why ??? Don't look it up.....see if any of you know the answer,don't cheat as I say nobody knows.. Ask a kid who killed Abe Lincoln or who was Boston Corbett... Ask a kid who discovered America. The responses will be all over the place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: Yes and I did NOT read killing Kennedy as I know all of that history.. Damn. I know the history as well but i like reading about it and watching documentaries on it as well. Your right tho most people dont know that Mary was the first woman hung which is kinda sad. You should know at least the main players of important parts of history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: Correct....Read the book "HOodwinked",by Jack Cashill and State of Emergency,byPat Buccannan,both will blow you away and Hoodwinked will knock socks as it exposes many things we thought were true.. sounds good. i read an article yesterday that said they believe they have uncovered the real identity of jack the ripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: That may be the "theory" world,but hey,maybe so.?? they believe they found the real diary of him under a floorboard in the guys old bedroom from 1889. if it really is the diary it would be a huge revelation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 All the outrageous things Lincoln did during his despotic presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Pops said: For me, an event that's politicized now 127,000 Japanese were sent to Intenrnment camps -- people that want to politicize will call them Concentration camps, but that term seems wildly inappropriate for a place where the inmates had schools, housing, mess halls, and were paid to work (optional) at the same time that real concentration camps were killing 6 million people through horrific means including forced labor, starvation, kill houses, and medical experiments did you know these camps only existed for 2 years? Im not suggesting the camps were right decision, but people politicizing will tell you that 2/3 of internees were born in America, while ignoring that 1/3 were born in Japan -- put in context of the the times, the decision was perhaps overly cautious but hardly barbaric and was reversed just as soon as the US was clearly winning the Pacific War and a year before it was over C'mon, Padre, how about the Spanish Inquisition or genicide of multiple ancient American civilizations? How about America bullying Mexico and stealing California from them in a forced war (which the US has done twice vs Hispanic countries in what were clearly land grabs)? Again these are events that I NEVER heard of in school. It was not till much later. The Spanish Inquisition and genocide of just about every Native American tribe and Mexico losing Cali among others, were subject that I was taught. My family is huge into history from both sides. Both Sicilian and Mexican sides. We were taught a lot. Like the brasero program and the Brown out in LA schools to the situation in NYC with the eyetalian folk in the early 19th century. We will differ on opinions when it comes to stuff like the concentration camps the Japanese were forced into due to our polar opposite political views. You say ONLY 2 years like they should be grateful. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 5 hours ago, HSFBfan said: the internment camps here in america? is that what your talking about? it was in my history books. I guess it was not taught either in Cali or was taught after 1992. How old are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, AztecPadre said: I guess it was not taught either in Cali or was taught after 1992. How old are you? im 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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