World Citizen Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: 84fc8b5a7f33c13986db8c148d82936f.mp4 4.72 MB · 0 downloads Thank you for posting this. It is tiring in the extreme, as I'm sure you can get, to have to counter the nonsense by those who take party over all else. The lies that go unchecked (spoken out against) become truth to those who may be open to checking for themselves what the truth is but don't bc they do not hear any reasonable outsider speaking about our problems with reality as a country. Imo, as distasteful as this side of the board is to most, the absolute necessity for people to speak up is only growing more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 hours ago, World Citizen said: Thank you for posting this. It is tiring in the extreme, as I'm sure you can get, to have to counter the nonsense by those who take party over all else. The lies that go unchecked (spoken out against) become truth to those who may be open to checking for themselves what the truth is but don't bc they do not hear any reasonable outsider speaking about our problems with reality as a country. Imo, as distasteful as this side of the board is to most, the absolute necessity for people to speak up is only growing more so. You can't speak the truth to them. They'll put their fingers in their ears and call you a liar. They'll cover their eyes. They'll create alternate facts. They'll clip little snippets of truth and build a complete nonsensical alternate reality off of it. Use the lockdown where nobody was driving to claim we reached net zero imports of oil (complete oil independence, which doesnt mean we didnt import any at all btw) then turn around and use it the opposite way when it comes to the numbers of people reentering the job market. When your vision of the world is so small that you can pare down a nuclear superpower invading a sovereign country with the intent to kill or remove the entire government and appoint who they want to operate it, the way they want them to, all the way down to, dammit it costs me more at the pump. FJB... You're world view is too damn small. You're probably the one living in such a small world that during the election all you saw was Trump signs and no Biden ones. You live in that world, so you can't fathom there actually was Biden voters. They live in a different reality. Know what I'm saying? It's literally not a fight worth having. They're far far gone bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: You can't speak the truth to them. They'll put their fingers in their ears and call you a liar. They'll cover their eyes. They'll create alternate facts. They'll clip little snippets of truth and build a complete nonsensical alternate reality off of it. Use the lockdown where nobody was driving to claim we reached net zero imports of oil (complete oil independence, which doesnt mean we didnt import any at all btw) then turn around and use it the opposite way when it comes to the numbers of people reentering the job market. When your vision of the world is so small that you can pare down a nuclear superpower invading a sovereign country with the intent to kill or remove the entire government and appoint who they want to operate it, the way they want them to, all the way down to, dammit it costs me more at the pump. FJB... You're world view is too damn small. You're probably the one living in such a small world that during the election all you saw was Trump signs and no Biden ones. You live in that world, so you can't fathom there actually was Biden voters. They live in a differenr reality. Know what I'm saying? It's literally not a fight worth having. They're far far gone bro. Our country has gotten to a point where lies have replaced the truth. The truth is people where tired of Trump there wasnt some magical rampant voter fraud tidal wave in Detroit,Atlanta or Phoenix... No fringe conspiracy theory website,meme or Alex Jones podcast will change that fact... The Keystone XL Pipeline wouldnt do Jack shit for American oil prices.... Joe Biden isnt responsible for oil prices or Putins insane ACME antics. Everything isnt a fucking conspiracy theory or lie just because YOU dont like it. (Not directed at you Hawg but they know who they are) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Our country has gotten to a point where lies have replaced the truth. The truth is people where tired of Trump there wasnt some magical rampant voter fraud tidal wave in Detroit,Atlanta or Phoenix... No fringe conspiracy theory website,meme or Alex Jones podcast will change that fact... The Keystone XL Pipeline wouldnt do Jack shit for American oil prices.... Joe Biden isnt responsible for oil prices or Putins insane ACME antics. Everything isnt a fucking conspiracy theory or lie just because YOU dont like it. (Not directed at you Hawg but they know who they are) Biden and democrats hate gas and oil and wanna go ev, so they halted a lot of the drilling in our country and made us rely on foreign oil and energy, it is what it is, enjoy the $10 a gallon , FROM THE GREAT WORDS OF PRESIDENT KAMELA HARRIS YALL GOT WHAT YOU VOTED FOR IMG_1324.MOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 You all know the Biden Administration banned new oil leases day and limited Anwar and fracking day one correct? Since we’re all being truthful and all. In 2020, the API predicted that a ban on fracking and new oil leases would reduce GDP by $7.1 trillion by 2030, cost the economy 7.5 million jobs by 2022 and cause an average household income decline of $5,040. While energy consumption would decline by 12%, energy costs will purportedly increase by 14%, they predicted. It’s a very clear straight line since this administration took office and the cost of energy increasing. You all talk about bling partisanship, well here you go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just stop and listen to the leadership of this party sometime. They want energy to increase, it a path in the minds to zero emissions. They are telling you daily want they want and they don’t care the impact on small businesses and families to achieve their goal. Get your heads out of your asses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warrior said: Just stop and listen to the leadership of this party sometime. They want energy to increase, it a path in the minds to zero emissions. They are telling you daily want they want and they don’t care the impact on small businesses and families to achieve their goal. Get your heads out of your asses. This is what happens when you order a president by mail, unfortunately the next few years are gonna get worse until 2024 until the reincarnation of our lord and savior comes back into office just gotta play the waiting game and try and survive until then 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Warrior said: Gas production is shut down?? Holy shit! No wonder gas is high. What a crock of shit. What are all the refineries and their employees doing right now? Knitting. Gtfoh. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 No matter what anyone says, all the oil in the world is combined when making a per barrel price. Even our oil. So, if, Ukraine and Russia's oil is taken out of the market, the rest of the oil produced is more valuable. Derp. I'm all for ramping production during a time like this for sure. However, to blame these pains at the pump on Joe is ridiculous. You think our oil men are going to sell their oil for less than world market value you're a flipping idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: No matter what anyone says, all the oil in the world is combined when making a per barrel price. Even our oil. So, if, Ukraine and Russia's oil is taken out of the market, the rest of the oil produced is more valuable. Derp. I'm all for ramping production during a time like this for sure. However, to blame these pains at the pump on Joe is ridiculous. You think our oil men are going to sell their oil for less than world market value you're a flipping idiot. Have heard the term “futures” when it comes to the stock market? Oil prices work the same. When you ban new permits and fracking and limit Anwar day one the price increases as you can see on the graph above. You can choose not to see it but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: No matter what anyone says, all the oil in the world is combined when making a per barrel price. Even our oil. So, if, Ukraine and Russia's oil is taken out of the market, the rest of the oil produced is more valuable. Derp. I'm all for ramping production during a time like this for sure. However, to blame these pains at the pump on Joe is ridiculous. You think our oil men are going to sell their oil for less than world market value you're a flipping idiot. Na it don’t work like that, just how y’all blamed orange man for Covid we blaming Sleazy Joe for the Gas Epidemic, maybe if we all stay home for 14 days we might have a chance to flatten the oil and gas Curve 🤠🤠 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, FreeBird said: Na it don’t work like that, just how y’all blamed orange man for Covid we blaming Sleazy Joe for the Gas Epidemic, maybe if we all stay home for 14 days we might have a chance to flatten the oil and gas Curve 🤠🤠 While you're bullshitting... Couldn't hurt. Well, except for the part where gasoline/petrol is only 60 percent of what we use oil for. The other 40 percent goes to fertilizer (food production so food costs will go up as well) medications, plastics like pvc and vinyl siding, the bottle your adhd meds and all come in, the plastic bag a loaf of bread is housed in and etc. You may as well brace yourself for a ton more of blaming Biden for Putin's bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 You know I respect @Atticus Finch he finally realized he can’t defend Sleazy Joe Groper anymore and permanently logged off thats respect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Warrior said: Have heard the term “futures” when it comes to the stock market? Oil prices work the same. When you ban new permits and fracking and limit Anwar day one the price increases as you can see on the graph above. You can choose not to see it but it is what it is. they haven't banned anything...in fact when Trump left office there were 403 oil permits issued and since he left it's up to over 500 now...there are over 1,000 leases not being used and Keystone doesn't get us a drop of oil. Right now the oil company profits are though the roof and there is no incentive for them to help bring the prices down...fracking isn't the answer...fracking destroys/contaminates the ground water sources...very bad for the environment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, FreeBird said: You know I respect @Atticus Finch he finally realized he can’t defend Sleazy Joe Groper anymore and permanently logged off thats respect LOL..he kicked your silly asses around on a daily basis....😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, DBP66 said: Right now the oil company profits are though the roof and there is no incentive for them to help bring the prices down...fracking isn't the answer...fracking destroys/contaminates the ground water sources...very bad for the environment. Lol 😂 ur fucking blind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, FreeBird said: Lol 😂 ur fucking blind nice silly meme!....it doesn't mean a thing or make any sense....but you roll with that...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, DBP66 said: they haven't banned anything...in fact when Trump left office there were 403 oil permits issued and since he left it's up to over 500 now...there are over 1,000 leases not being used and Keystone doesn't get us a drop of oil. Right now the oil company profits are though the roof and there is no incentive for them to help bring the prices down...fracking isn't the answer...fracking destroys/contaminates the ground water sources...very bad for the environment. Day one the Biden administration banned "NEW" oil leases. Many of the existing permits has run their course. Your brainwashed from the MSM on Fracking - it's extremely clean and very easy on the environment today. You want to see damage go check some of the lithium mines needed for those Electric Cars the administration wants us all to drive. Do you know the electric Toyota Yaris it would take 12 years of ownership to offset the C02 needed to build the car? What are we doing people. We've cleaned up the energy business in the country the past 20 years it's really incredible compared to anywhere else in the world. When you scare the markets the market will react as it did almost immediately when Biden came into office. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-suspends-oil-gas-leases-permits-60-days-75408745 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, FreeBird said: You know I respect @Atticus Finch he finally realized he can’t defend Sleazy Joe Groper anymore and permanently logged off thats respect I won't defend him. Totally not satisfied with what we are getting from him at this juncture in time. However, he doesn't control the crude barrel prices. Lol. He released 50 million barrels from the reserve. If you want to say that isnt enough, fine, but at least be realistic with expectations and facts. While we are bullshitting and all... I don't agree with Putin going into Ukraine, but, I can kind of understand why he did. In his mind, the west is moving in right next door to him. If he moved assets or whatever into Mexico, we'd go in there in a heartbeat. So, to that extent its understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Warrior said: Day one the Biden administration banned "NEW" oil leases. Many of the existing permits has run their course. Your brainwashed from the MSM on Fracking - it's extremely clean and very easy on the environment today. You want to see damage go check some of the lithium mines needed for those Electric Cars the administration wants us all to drive. Do you know the electric Toyota Yaris it would take 12 years of ownership to offset the C02 needed to build the car? What are we doing people. We've cleaned up the energy business in the country the past 20 years it's really incredible compared to anywhere else in the world. When you scare the markets the market will react as it did almost immediately when Biden came into office. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-suspends-oil-gas-leases-permits-60-days-75408745 they "run their course"??......there are over 1,000 unused leases right now...why do we need more "new" leases??....we don't...Biden isn't stopping anything from happening. The oil companies are holding the cards right now...not Biden. You guys don't understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 The U.S. already leads the world in carbon emissions reduction, with emissions down 26% since the shale boom hits its stride in 2007. Why? Because of the use of natural gas, a fossil fuel, now produced in historic volumes made possible through fracking, or hydraulic fracturing. Fracked natural gas has been key to reducing U.S. carbon emissions to their lowest levels since 1988, the U.S. Department of Energy recently announced. Over the same 27 year time-frame, figures from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis show the U.S. economy nearly doubled, growing about 50% when gross domestic product is adjusted for inflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: While we are bullshitting and all... I don't agree with Putin going into Ukraine, but, I can kind of understand why he did. In his mind, the west is moving in right next door to him. If he moved assets or whatever into Mexico, we'd go in there in a heartbeat. So, to that extent its understandable. Deep down I really don’t care about what’s going on with Russia, who the fuck are we to play the good guys when as a country we’ve down diabolical and sinister shit to get where our country is today, started with the native Americans and still happening in Middle East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warrior said: The U.S. already leads the world in carbon emissions reduction, with emissions down 26% since the shale boom hits its stride in 2007. Why? Because of the use of natural gas, a fossil fuel, now produced in historic volumes made possible through fracking, or hydraulic fracturing. Fracked natural gas has been key to reducing U.S. carbon emissions to their lowest levels since 1988, the U.S. Department of Energy recently announced. Over the same 27 year time-frame, figures from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis show the U.S. economy nearly doubled, growing about 50% when gross domestic product is adjusted for inflation. fracking is poison to the environment....in addition to contaminating the water it also is associated with tremors and slight earthquakes....fracking isn't the answer. It's poison....the answer is stop relying on fossil fuels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, DBP66 said: fracking is poison to the environment....in addition to contaminating the water it also is associated with tremors and slight earthquakes....fracking isn't the answer. It's poison....the answer is stop relying on fossil fuels. Find new sources for your information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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