Las Vegas_JC Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 https://www.maxpreps.com/m/news/8nlH-fa0z0eQOajhcevTEQ/mapping-out-the-best-game-each-week-of-the-high-school-football-season.htm Hopefully Covid numbers stay down and we can get back to great HSFB games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Buford ought to be Good this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 MaxPreps running with GOTW's in May is pretty silly. That will change obviously, but some of those are good games regardless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Las Vegas_JC said: https://www.maxpreps.com/m/news/8nlH-fa0z0eQOajhcevTEQ/mapping-out-the-best-game-each-week-of-the-high-school-football-season.htm Hopefully Covid numbers stay down and we can get back to great HSFB games. The Hamilton and Bishop game intrigues me...The rest will most likely be blowouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Frosty4024 said: The Hamilton and Bishop game intrigues me...The rest will most likely be blowouts. Hamilton should get blown out by 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Buford ought to be Good this year Let’s get back to talking about football. Tell me a little bit about this team. How many prospects do they have? Who is their most notable football alum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted May 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, steeler01 said: Hamilton should get blown out by 20 Hamilton owns Gorman at this point. 2-0 vs the Gaels. I’m just hoping that this team does not implode like they did last year vs Hamilton. It should be a good one I’ll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Las Vegas_JC said: Hamilton owns Gorman at this point. 2-0 vs the Gaels. I’m just hoping that this team does not implode like they did last year vs Hamilton. It should be a good one I’ll be there. This team won't be anywhere near as good as last year and Gorman was destroying them before that implosion at the end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 13 hours ago, steeler01 said: This team won't be anywhere near as good as last year and Gorman was destroying them before that implosion at the end Hamilton has a good deal coming back from last year and IMO is probably better equipped for postseason success than last year (they leaned heavy on the passing game last season which has a wretched record here come postseason). I don't know how that will translate to out of state matchups but this senior class was very highly regarded (and successful) coming up through the lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Buford having 3 games listed as GOTW is a bit much for my eyes. There really isn't any science when it comes to high school football. Just throw it out there and people will run with it. Of course it's only May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, RedZone said: Buford having 3 games listed as GOTW is a bit much for my eyes. There really isn't any science when it comes to high school football. Just throw it out there and people will run with it. Of course it's only May. Yeah, the two OOS Buford games are good. Could have done without the Mill Creek game and made room for some other team from somewhere else really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Maybe they got three games of the week by giving Zack Poff a break from shlobbing a knob occasionally. Sharing is caring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Yeah, the two OOS Buford games are good. Could have done without the Mill Creek game and made room for some other team from somewhere else really. St Joes Philly took 3 losses last year....they are riding with the "name" in 2022....they play a lot of quality OOS games though. They play STA, FL this year too. SJP 2021 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA) team preview trend Pennsylvania Philadelphia Catholic - Red AAAAAA 11-3 3-1 (t 1st) 7-2 55.0 38.9 118-49 WINS: #261 La Salle (Wyndmoor, PA) (35-7), #268 Garnet Valley (Glen Mills, PA) (49-13), #370 Middletown (DE) (24-6), #551 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) (35-3), #835 Freedom (Bethlehem, PA) (24-21), #945 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (38-20), #945 Archbishop Wood (Warminster, PA) (17-14), #1404 St. Mary's Ryken (Leonardtown, MD) (40-0), #1954 Northeast (Philadelphia, PA) (41-6), #2472 Father Judge (Philadelphia, PA) (21-13), #2866 Roman Catholic (Philadelphia, PA) (44-14), LOSSES: #25 Milton (GA) (28-21), #61 Mt. Lebanon (Pittsburgh, PA) (35-17), #261 La Salle (Wyndmoor, PA) (28-21) Buford/Thompson is large, in my opinion..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Wooderson said: Hamilton has a good deal coming back from last year and IMO is probably better equipped for postseason success than last year (they leaned heavy on the passing game last season which has a wretched record here come postseason). I don't know how that will translate to out of state matchups but this senior class was very highly regarded (and successful) coming up through the lower levels. They just lost their best players. Last year was a strong year for Arizona at the top with Hamilton, Chandler and Saguaro. Players they lost 3 Star DE Russell Davies 3 Star QB Nicco Marichol 3 Star OL Grayson Stovall 3 Star TE Michael Masunas CB Ottawa University Joel Gant OL Ottawa University Jacob Lozano WR Ottawa University Dwayne Ross LB Alabama State Grant Degraffenreid OL Jacob Jones DB Tre Tate DT Dawson Hubbard I can't see Hamilton being better then last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: They just lost their best players. Last year was a strong year for Arizona at the top with Hamilton, Chandler and Saguaro. Players they lost 3 Star DE Russell Davies 3 Star QB Nicco Marichol 3 Star OL Grayson Stovall 3 Star TE Michael Masunas CB Ottawa University Joel Gant OL Ottawa University Jacob Lozano WR Ottawa University Dwayne Ross LB Alabama State Grant Degraffenreid OL Jacob Jones DB Tre Tate DT Dawson Hubbard I can't see Hamilton being better then last year That doesn't seem like an impressive group of star power. They probably pick up better players than that this year. All those Arizona schools out there add to the rosters during the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, RedZone said: That doesn't seem like an impressive group of star power. They probably pick up better players than that this year. All those Arizona schools out there add to the rosters during the offseason. Most of those kids were 2 year starters for Hamilton and a couple they picked up from Colorado after covid. They also had a 4 star and 3 star transfer out last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 11 hours ago, steeler01 said: Most of those kids were 2 year starters for Hamilton and a couple they picked up from Colorado after covid. They also had a 4 star and 3 star transfer out last year They also have their top two rushers back (and their fourth leading one as well), a six-foot-four three star recruit at receiver, a senior safety with nine D1 offers this offseason, two linebackers with a combined ten offers between them, and nine seniors overall with at least one D1 offer. Yes they lost some guys and I'm not saying they'll beat Gorman or win a state title, but for every guy they lost there's a pretty clear replacement at the ready; that's what happens when you have an enrollment of 3500 kids and are in an open enrollment state. When I say Hamilton is better equipped for postseason success that's a term I use intentionally. Do I think they're more talented than they were last year? No I don't. Based on history though I'm confident in saying that when an Arizona team loses a blue chip quarterback it is overwhelmingly addition by subtraction with respect to postseason success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wooderson said: They also have their top two rushers back (and their fourth leading one as well), a six-foot-four three star recruit at receiver, a senior safety with nine D1 offers this offseason, two linebackers with a combined ten offers between them, and nine seniors overall with at least one D1 offer. Yes they lost some guys and I'm not saying they'll beat Gorman or win a state title, but for every guy they lost there's a pretty clear replacement at the ready; that's what happens when you have an enrollment of 3500 kids and are in an open enrollment state. When I say Hamilton is better equipped for postseason success that's a term I use intentionally. Do I think they're more talented than they were last year? No I don't. Based on history though I'm confident in saying that when an Arizona team loses a blue chip quarterback it is overwhelmingly addition by subtraction with respect to postseason success. Postseason success has a lot to do with opponents as well. Will Saguaro and Chandler be better? 2020 Hamilton made the finals, and missed a 24 yd fg to win the state championship. They weren't better then the 2021 version, but they got farther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, steeler01 said: Postseason success has a lot to do with opponents as well. Will Saguaro and Chandler be better? 2020 Hamilton made the finals, and missed a 24 yd fg to win the state championship. They weren't better then the 2021 version, but they got farther Isn't Chandler the team that got Raiola from Burleson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/12/2022 at 4:13 PM, RedZone said: Buford having 3 games listed as GOTW is a bit much for my eyes. There really isn't any science when it comes to high school football. Just throw it out there and people will run with it. Of course it's only May. You think? yep print them in May and those will bitch Maxpreps will see your post and learn Lots of better OOS games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Frosty4024 said: Isn't Chandler the team that got Raiola from Burleson? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Yes He committed to Ohio St a couple days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 11 hours ago, RedZone said: He committed to Ohio St a couple days ago. Would’ve been nice to see him follow in his father’s footsteps for college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted May 14, 2022 Report Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 7:18 AM, steeler01 said: Postseason success has a lot to do with opponents as well. Will Saguaro and Chandler be better? 2020 Hamilton made the finals, and missed a 24 yd fg to win the state championship. They weren't better then the 2021 version, but they got farther In Arizona's top two divisions there have only been two championship teams since 2004 that have ran for less than 200 yards a game. Opponents are a factor but 2021's reality says Chandler had their worst team since at least 2015 (probably more accurate to say since 2013) while the only thing notable about this Saguaro squad versus their previous editions was they had the ability to bench a D1-bound quarterback for the playoffs simply to create a matchup nightmare for their opponents. If anything there's an argument to be made that 2021 was a down year for Arizona football. In Arizona having a blue chip, Power 5 quarterback has historically been a detriment to championship aspirations (see Spencer Rattler, Jack Miller, Ryan Kelly, and Kyle Allen). I don't look at a team like Hamilton losing their starting quarterback as a significant loss because in our top divisions you're not winning postseason games leaning on that guy. With the other losses you have guys already on the roster that logically make sense to fill those spots (Deuce Davis is probably the most notable departure but the d-end opposite him had 8.5 sacks and 20 TFLs as a junior) or are talking about guys that are going to NAIA Ottawa despite the exposure that comes from playing on a national top 25 team. TL, DR - if Hamilton emphasizes running the ball like they did in 2020 I will not be surprised to see them take a step up in 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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