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… their 2 main goals are in reach 1) control of the House and 2)with Johnson called the winner in Wisconsin, if the GOP wins Nevada, the Georgia runoff decides control of the Senate (again).

Hopefully Stacy Abrams and her judge sister can’t keep dead people, and out of staters on the rolls. 

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2 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Hopefully Stacy Abrams and her judge sister can’t keep dead people, and out of staters on the rolls. 

Georgia is a different state than it used to be.  The northern collar counties to Atlanta (Gwinnett, Cobb) are much more left leaning - with many white voters there.  Trump is poison in those counties and he needs to stay the hell away from the Georgia runoff.

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Literally the only takeaway from last night is that it's well past time to kick Drumpf to the curb. I'm not sure how you do it, since the GOP has spent the past 5 years firmly hitched to his wagon, but somebody better come up with a plan, stat.

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9 minutes ago, zulu1128 said:

Literally the only takeaway from last night is that it's well past time to kick Drumpf to the curb. I'm not sure how you do it, since the GOP has spent the past 5 years firmly hitched to his wagon, but somebody better come up with a plan, stat.

Somewhat agree. The party is too divided. I think everyone needs to get behind DeSantis for 2024. Tim Scott the Vice President 

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If the voting patterns hold in Nevada, then there probably aren't enough votes left in Clarke County for the Dem to overtake Laxalt.  That would give the GOP 50 Senators, leaving them needing a win in Arizona or in the Georgia run-off.

No idea what will happen in Arizona.  The Dems started off with huge leads with about 50% of the vote in, but for the governorship Lake has almost tied it up with 69% counted, and thus with lots of counting left to go.  For the Senate seat, Masters is not as close as Lake is for governor but still the the lead was cut quickly so catching up to Kelly may still be a possibility.  It will be interesting to see if there any vote dumps that bolster the Dems (purely above board, of course).

 

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26 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Pretty fitting that is an anti-American piece of shit like you would spam the threads with a video from another anti-American piece of shit

Why are you so angry? Should we call the authorities and warn them of your current agitated state of mind?

Do you feel like hurting yourself or others? Do you have access to a weapon? Are you alone? 

Please allow me to help. That is why I am here. You can trust me. I'm here for you.

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1 hour ago, Wildcat Will said:

Why are you so angry? Should we call the authorities and warn them of your current agitated state of mind?

Do you feel like hurting yourself or others? Do you have access to a weapon? Are you alone? 

Please allow me to help. That is why I am here. You can trust me. I'm here for you.

Angry? I got nothing to be angry about. My dick hangs low, it wobbles to and fro, I can tie it in a knot, I can tie it in a bow. 

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3 minutes ago, FreeBird said:

How many of those voters wear dog collars and have their own cat litter box in their room

They have to take Xanax just to muster enough strength to get in the car their parents paid for and drive to Starbucks and pay $10 for sugar water. Then they hate post about KKK members on every street corner and the patriarchy holding down indigenous two spirit trans deaf one legged people of color. 

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3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

They have to take Xanax just to muster enough strength to get in the car their parents paid for and drive to Starbucks and pay $10 for sugar water. Then they hate post about KKK members on every street corner and the patriarchy holding down indigenous two spirit trans deaf one legged people of color. 

 

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51 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Well done youngsters.  👍🏻

 

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These are recently/currently indoctrinated young folks acting from feelings and visions of not having to pay debts.

Gradually, they get jobs (hopefully, in spite of the Democratic Party) and have kids and start paying taxes.  Magically, they then begin to drift right as they advance in the University of Life and come back to reality.

Of more meaningful import are the numbers for black and Latino voters, showing clear shifts to the right. The left has convinced itself that the browning of America will be to their benefit. Well guess what. Black and brown folks smell the leftist bullshit and are trending right.  Oooops.

 

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21 hours ago, concha said:

 

If the voting patterns hold in Nevada, then there probably aren't enough votes left in Clarke County for the Dem to overtake Laxalt.  That would give the GOP 50 Senators, leaving them needing a win in Arizona or in the Georgia run-off.

No idea what will happen in Arizona.  The Dems started off with huge leads with about 50% of the vote in, but for the governorship Lake has almost tied it up with 69% counted, and thus with lots of counting left to go.  For the Senate seat, Masters is not as close as Lake is for governor but still the the lead was cut quickly so catching up to Kelly may still be a possibility.  It will be interesting to see if there any vote dumps that bolster the Dems (purely above board, of course).

 

LOL..."vote dumps"??...no such thing...it never happened champ....you've been brain-washed....silly Trumper...🤡

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5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Pretty fitting that is an anti-American piece of shit like you would spam the threads with a video from another anti-American piece of shit

Its amazing what y'all consider "anti-american"... 

Dont like what the current republican party is doing? You must hate America

Don't like Trump? You must hate america... 

Don't like Desantis? Must hate america.... 

You're a republican that doesn't worship Trump or drink the Crazy Kool aid? You must be an american hating RINO.... 

The current Republicans that operate on Fucking Jukebox batteries fear monger harder than anyone else... 

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The New York Times

Trump Under Fire From Within GOP After Midterms

 
 
Michael C. Bender and Maggie Haberman
Thu, November 10, 2022 at 9:08 AM
 
 
Former President Donald Trump greets his guests at his election night party at Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla, on Nov. 8, 2022. (Josh Ritchie/The New York Times)
 
Former President Donald Trump greets his guests at his election night party at Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla, on Nov. 8, 2022. (Josh Ritchie/The New York Times)

Donald Trump faced unusual public attacks from across the Republican Party on Wednesday after a string of midterm losses by candidates he had handpicked and supported, a display of weakness as he prepared to announce a third presidential campaign as soon as next week.

As the sheer number of missed Republican opportunities sank in, the rush to openly blame Trump was as immediate as it was surprising.

Conservative allies criticized Trump on social media and cable news, questioning whether he should continue as the party’s leader and pointing to his toxic political brand as the common thread woven through three consecutive lackluster election cycles.

 

Trump was seen as largely to blame for the Republicans’ underwhelming finish in Tuesday’s elections, as a number of the candidates he had endorsed in competitive races were defeated — including nominees for governor and Senate in Pennsylvania and for governor of Michigan, New York and Wisconsin.

“Republicans have followed Donald Trump off the side of a cliff,” David Urban, a longtime Trump adviser with ties to Pennsylvania, said in an interview.

Former Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who has long supported Trump, said, “I strongly believe he should no longer be the face of the Republican Party,” adding that the party “can’t become a personality cult.”

The chorus of criticism, which unfolded on Fox News and social media throughout the day, revealed Trump to be at his most vulnerable point politically since the aftermath of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Still, Trump has built a deep well of loyalty with Republican voters, and party officials cautioned that it was too soon to tell whether he would suffer any lasting political damage beyond a flurry of bad headlines, or whether a rival will emerge to challenge him. Trump has built a career on outlasting political controversy, and Trump aides insisted that any suggestion of weakness was a media confection.

“I am proud to endorse Donald Trump for president in 2024,” Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., said in a statement. “It is time for Republicans to unite around the most popular Republican in America who has a proven track record of conservative governance.”

Sen.-elect J.D. Vance, R-Ohio, an early choice of Trump, said he believed Trump would be the nominee if he runs. “Every year, the media writes Donald Trump’s political obituary. And every year, we’re quickly reminded that Trump remains the most popular figure in the Republican Party,” he said. And Rep. Jim Banks, R-Ind., said he supported Trump, who “transformed our party.”

Stefanik, Vance and Banks all provided statements after The New York Times sought comment from an aide to Trump.

Publicly, Trump put the best face on the results, pointing to dozens of wins for his endorsed candidates in less competitive races.

In an interview Wednesday with Fox News, he pointed to Vance, who delivered a convincing victory, and to Herschel Walker, the former football star, who will face Sen. Raphael Warnock, D-Ga., in a runoff.

“We had tremendous success — why would anything change?” Trump said when asked whether he would delay his announcement.

But at his home in Florida, Trump was privately spreading blame, including to Fox News host Sean Hannity and casino mogul Steve Wynn, for his endorsement of Dr. Mehmet Oz, the defeated Pennsylvania Senate candidate. He included his wife, Melania, among those he complained had offered poor advice, according to several people familiar with the discussions.

Among Republican operatives who have been open to working with another Trump presidential campaign, a handful said they were reconsidering. That could present a challenge for Trump, who has a handful of trusted advisers but almost no one yet staffing key aspects of a campaign-in-waiting.

Kayleigh McEnany, a former Trump White House press secretary and one of his longtime defenders, said on Fox News on Wednesday that her former boss should hold off on an announcement, at least until after the runoff election for Senate in Georgia.

“He needs to put it on pause, absolutely,” McEnany said. “If I’m advising any contender, no one announces 2024 until we get through Dec 6.”

Trump, however, has been teasing rally crowds for weeks with hints of another presidential bid — one that was meant to capitalize on the momentum gained by what he repeatedly predicted would be a towering Republican victory in Tuesday’s elections. That would allow him to claim credit for endorsing the winners, holding dozens of rallies to showcase them and, in a new spirit of benevolence, spending millions of dollars from his campaign treasury on advertisements to support them.

Instead, the party fared far more poorly than it had expected, though it remains within reach of control of one or both houses of Congress.

On Wednesday, Trump was said to be furious with Hannity, to whom the former president often turns for political advice, and who was among several people who urged him to endorse Oz.

In Arizona, Kari Lake and Blake Masters, running for governor and Senate respectively, had campaigned together as “America First” candidates carrying Trump’s banner. Both were behind as the counting continued in races too close to call.

And in 36 House races that the Cook Political Report rated as tossups, Trump endorsed just five Republicans. Each one lost Tuesday.

“Almost every one of these Trump-endorsed candidates that you see in competitive states has lost,” Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor, said Wednesday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “It’s a huge loss for Trump. And, again, it shows that his political instincts are not about the party, they’re not about the country — they’re about him.”

King said the results showed that it was time for the party to move on, and he faulted Trump for sniping at political allies.

“His self-promotion and his attacks on Republicans including Ron DeSantis and Mitch McConnell were largely responsible for Republicans not having a red wave,” King said. “We can’t allow blind fealty to Trump to determine the fate of our party.”

Scott Jennings, a longtime adviser to McConnell, the Senate minority leader, pointed to exit polls that showed Trump was less popular than President Joe Biden. He said if Trump wanted to see a Republican elected president in 2024, he should not run.

Jennings suggested DeSantis, the Florida governor, and Gov. Glenn Youngkin of Virginia as potential alternatives. He called for those Republicans to move urgently, pointing to the former president’s rapid political recovery after his supporters rioted in the Capitol, after Trump had falsely told them that his reelection victory had been stolen.

“The void has to be filled,” Jennings said. “After Jan. 6, the GOP hesitated and he quickly recovered. DeSantis cannot hesitate.”

Adding to Trump’s long night Tuesday, one of the few Republican bright spots in the midterms came in Florida, where DeSantis — widely viewed as the leading alternative to Trump in 2024 — won reelection with the widest margin of any Republican in the 24 years the party has controlled the governor’s office in Tallahassee.

The New York Post, one of Trump’s favorite publications, devoted its cover Wednesday to an election-night photo of the 44-year-old governor celebrating with his young family. The tabloid’s headline, “DeFuture,” turned his family name into a compliment — just four days after Trump dismissed DeSantis as “DeSanctimonious” at a rally.

On Wednesday, Trump pointed out on his social media website, Truth Social, that he had received more total votes in Florida during his 2020 presidential race than DeSantis won Tuesday. Trump’s margin of victory, however, was only about one-tenth as wide.

It remains to be seen how durable the criticisms of Trump will prove, but in the immediate aftermath of votes being cast, some Republicans were willing to deliver unusually blunt on-the-record criticisms of Trump.

“Americans tend to support candidates who look forward and not backward,” said Urban, the former Trump adviser. “If Trump can do that, people would be excited. But can he? If history is any judge, I don’t think he can and it’s a shame. He’s an incredibly skilled politician in many ways, but in other ways, he just doesn’t get it.”

Mike Cernovich, a conservative blogger and longtime defender of Trump, broke with his political ally Wednesday, posting a series of messages to his 1 million followers on Twitter, in which he referred to the midterms “an ass-kicking” for Republicans, and suggested the only silver lining was “at least no one has to suck up to Trump anymore.”

“The country doesn’t care about the 2020 election,” Cernovich wrote. “Trump can’t move on, oh well. Bye.”

© 2022 The New York Times Company

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