Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, dntn31 said: I'd rather have that than uncertainty as to who is the best team in the state. We understand very well that *you* would rather have a system that allows your school to cosplay as national champions every time they managed to get through it with only one loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, dntn31 said: How are you supposed to argue that you are the best team in the country if can't even say with certainty that you are the best team in your own state? I'll ask that same question of you in a week when it's true of St. John Bosco. I bet you won't have a problem doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: We understand very well that *you* would rather have a system that allows your school to cosplay as national champions every time they managed to get through it with only one loss. I'd take pretty much any major state playoff over FL. It doesn't even have to be CA. CA's system is not perfect, far from it. Texas, Georgia, pick pretty much any state... they are all better systems than what FL currently has. it has nothing to do with what team I support. If you want to keep and argue for your system where all of the state's top teams avoid each other, you're welcome to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, dntn31 said: I'd take pretty much any major state playoff over FL. That's because it's an actual playoff without the introduction of human hands picking the games. This cannot stand, man! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, dntn31 said: It doesn't even have to be CA. CA's system is not perfect, far from it. California's system is one of the laughingstocks of the country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, dntn31 said: Texas, Georgia, pick pretty much any state... they are all better systems than what FL currently has. Before this nonsense S/M stuff that they passed this year, they were pretty much the exact same. Texas splits their classes into separate divisions! Anybody who says that is better is just trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, dntn31 said: it has nothing to do with what team I support. 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, dntn31 said: If you want to keep and argue for your system where all of the state's top teams avoid each other, you're welcome to it. I was against it from the jump. But you wouldn't know that since you don't actually read anything or pay attention. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: California's system is one of the laughingstocks of the country. How would you make it better? How would you make Florida system better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I was against it from the jump. But you wouldn't know that since you don't actually read anything or pay attention. You can always tell how twisted your panties get by how many posts you make in a row. 😆 What's the over/under for that when Central and/or C-M get a piece of that MNC pie and STA gets left out in the cold again? The things you are against is literally too long to list. But hey, by all means, keep lashing out at other states instead of engaging in meaningful discourse of proposals that would actually help your team or providing your own ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, World Citizen said: How would you make it better? Have an actual playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, World Citizen said: How would you make Florida system better? Keep the current seeding model but go back to the 6 or 7 classes based on enrollment. If you base the quality of a system on it's fairness, access and common sense then what we used to have (using the current seeding structure) would be the best. Certainly no state could claim to have one better than it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, dntn31 said: You can always tell how twisted your panties get by how many posts you make in a row. 😆 That's actually a measure of how many distinctly dumb points the person I'm quoting made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, dntn31 said: What's the over/under for that when Central and/or C-M get a piece of that MNC pie and STA gets left out in the cold again? We'll never know because they have zero chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, dntn31 said: The things you are against is literally too long to list. As is everybody else. I'm just more vocal about telling you that your team is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: As is everybody else. I'm just more vocal about telling you that your team is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, dntn31 said: But hey, by all means, keep lashing out at other states instead of engaging in meaningful discourse of proposals that would actually help your team or providing your own ideas. There is nothing that would help us and even if there was, nothing that I say here would make any difference. I think I've been pretty clear on this (granted, we know that you don't read anything here). There's no path path forward for STA to win anything. The human polls have been captured by the California hype machine and the computers are designed by people who don't know football and/or people who smell their own farts and can't admit fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: go back to the 6 or 7 classes based on enrollment. Is there no better way to split teams? You could make an argument that enrollment matters for public schools, but how does that make any sense for private schools? Surely, a better system exists. Even with the old system, most years the best teams in FL never see each other in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, dntn31 said: Is there no better way to split teams? There's no *fairer* and less arbitrary way to split teams. We have the system we have now because of people like you trying to manipulate the splits in some clever way to reach their desired outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: There is nothing that would help us and even if there was, nothing that I say here would make any difference. I think I've been pretty clear on this Yes, this is where these "discussions" always seems to end up - your steadfast adherence to conspiracy and fatalism. You understand, better than most, that the computers value SOS. My original "pipe dream" suggestion to improve the FL system would undeniably result in an improved SOS for whatever team emerges from that hypothetical system. Why lash out so strongly against a suggestion that would have actual meaningful impact? Easier to just play the victim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, dntn31 said: Even with the old system, most years the best teams in FL never see each other in the playoffs. That's not the intent of classification-based state playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: There's no *fairer* and less arbitrary way to split teams. Right, because lumping in a private school with an enrollment of 1,000 with a public school with an enrollment of 1,000 is completely fair and not arbitrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, dntn31 said: Yes, this is where these "discussions" always seems to end up - your steadfast adherence to conspiracy and fatalism. The fatalism is just a fact. There's been no charges of conspiracy. There doesn't need to be a meeting in order for groupthink to emerge. What's been fascinating is the complete lack of salient counter-arguments made by you or anybody else from California. It think it's pretty clear that you and they believe it too but are benefiting from it so you just go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: What's been fascinating is the complete lack of salient counter-arguments made by you or anybody else from California. It think it's pretty clear that you and they believe it too but are benefiting from it so you just go with it. Counter-argument to what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, World Citizen said: How would you make it better? How would you make Florida system better? STA, MC, AH and C-M are all in separate brackets. You can make the Florida playoffs better by having the best teams play each other. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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