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12 minutes ago, steeler01 said:

But Brady wills teams to win.ย  I think people can put that myth to rest now.ย  He's been on great teams his entire career. Great player though

Was it Brady or was it Belichick? ย No one knows โ€ฆ ย and will probably debating long after Iโ€™m dead. ย Having watched a ton of Patriot games, there is no doubt Brady made his teammates better. ย He made starsย out of Wes Welker and Julian Edelman.

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6 minutes ago, Bormio said:

Was it Brady or was it Belichick? ย No one knows โ€ฆ ย and will probably debating long after Iโ€™m ย dead. ย Having watched a ton of Patriot games, there is no doubt Brady made his teammates better. ย He made starsย out of Wes Welker and Julian Edelman.

Edelman and Welker were bothย great players in the slot

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Welker had 111 receptions and 1100+ yards receiving with Cassel as his QB

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Kam Chancellor claimed Edelmanย was the toughest guy to guard in the NFL

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3 minutes ago, steeler01 said:

Edelman and Welker were bothย great players in the slot

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Welker had 111 receptions and 1100+ yards receiving with Cassel as his QB

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Kam Chancellor claimed Edelmanย was the toughest guy to guard in the NFL

Yes they were. ย But Brady had a lot to do with that. ย Welkerโ€™s career was little more than a blip before New England. ย Edelman would have been undrafted without Belichick. ย Edelman wasnโ€™t even a WR coming into the league. ย But he worked his ass off with Brady and was arguably as important to the NE offense as Gronk. ย Anywhere else, nobody remembers Julian Edelman.

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1 minute ago, Bormio said:

Yes they were. ย But Brady had a lot to do with that. ย Welkerโ€™s career was little more than a blip before New England.

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He was on awful Miami teams.ย  Cassell got a huge contract thanks to the Patriots. One of the biggest reasons was Welker.ย 

1 minute ago, Bormio said:

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ย Edelman would have been undrafted without Belichick. ย Edelman wasnโ€™t even a WR coming into the league. ย But he worked his ass off with Brady and was arguably as important to the NE offense as Gronk. ย Anywhere else, nobody remembers Julian Edelman.

Players like Edelman flourishing in the NFL happen and it's not because of a QB. Cooper Kupp ring a bell?

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Edelman is a great player wherever he goes and plays in that slot. His story happens to have been in New England though.ย 

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12 minutes ago, steeler01 said:

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He was on awful Miami teams.ย  Cassell got a huge contract thanks to the Patriots. One of the biggest reasons was Welker.ย 

Players like Edelman flourishing in the NFL happen and it's not because of a QB. Cooper Kupp ring a bell?

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Edelman is a great player wherever he goes and plays in that slot. His story happens to have been in New England though.ย 

Cooper Kuppย ย was a first rounder. ย Nobody wanted Edelman. ย Anywhere else doesnโ€™t get a shot quite possibly. ย And without Brady, Welker was nowhere. ย With him - a stud. ย Not a knock on Welker or Edelman. ย They were skilled and tough. ย But their careers are much less if not for Brady. ย No QB at the time used the slot receiver like Brady.

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14 minutes ago, Bormio said:

Cooper Kuppย ย was a first rounder.

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You mean third rounder

14 minutes ago, Bormio said:

ย Nobody wanted Edelman. ย Anywhere else doesnโ€™t get a shot quite possibly. ย And without Brady, Welker was nowhere.

Just because Edelman wasn't drafted doesn't mean anything about his career

Edelman, with Brady suspended in 2016 was killing it with Garroppolo and Brissett. Two mediocre QBsย 

Not true onย Welker. How do you catchย 111 passes for 1100+ yards with Cassell as your QB and claim he was nothing without Brady? If anything, it tells you how great those players were.ย  How undervalued and underrated those players were.ย 

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14 minutes ago, Bormio said:

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ย With him - a stud. ย Not a knock on Welker or Edelman. ย They were skilled and tough. ย But their careers are much less if not for Brady. ย No QB at the time used the slot receiver like Brady.

All their careers are much less,ย if they don't play for the pats including Brady

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4 minutes ago, Bormio said:

Edelman had 19 receptions for 196 yards in 4 games w/o Brady in 2016. ย He had 79 receptions in 12 games with Brady for 910 yards. About ย 90 yards during the first 4 games was on one play vs Buffalo where he got caught and fumbled.

76ย receptions for 784ย  yards with guys that suck.ย  Think about that

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Why did Welker tear it up with Cassel?

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