DBP66 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: They started the war in Ukraine by pushing for putting NATO tanks on Russia’s border. The one thing Putin said would be an act of hostility and war. Biden should have told Ukraine you will not join NATO. Under any circumstances. you lost your mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, GoBigBlack said: People keep bitching about the low-paying jobs they have when there’s a pretty simple solution to that. But like the people on welfare (right?), they’re lazy and won’t put in the work. They want a high-paying job handed to them when they haven’t and won’t put in the time to make themselves worthy of the higher pay. Then they blame others for their shitty situations that result. If Republicans are in power and you complain that medicine is too expensive, that you've got to work two jobs to make ends meet, then you're a socialist and your view is not to be heard. If Democrats are in power and you complain that energy is too expensive, that you've got to work two jobs to make ends meet, then you're right. Thats the Government fault and they should really do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: They started the war in Ukraine by pushing for putting NATO tanks on Russia’s border. The one thing Putin said would be an act of hostility and war. Biden should have told Ukraine you will not join NATO. Under any circumstances. You are Aware that Ukraine asked to join NATO? Because Putin the victim invaded and annexed Crimea... Now this is the equivalent of me,you and @FreeBird being neighbors and I watch you bust in LDT's house and claim half of it as your own... You best believe Im gonna take prevention measures for my properties own interest. In The case of Russia and Ukraine Tell Putin to go suck a fat nut... He's sent thousands on young men to their deaths and got blood running through the streets for a Fucking land grab.... You invaded your neighbor once before and you're the mad one that they wanted to join NATO because they're afraid you might (And he did) Invade again.... Now you can beat around the bush all you want because im sure you'll bring up a conspiracy or something unproven to counter any and everything but Russia's in the wrong on this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: You are Aware that Ukraine asked to join NATO? Because Putin the victim invaded and annexed Crimea... Now this is the equivalent of me,you and @FreeBird being neighbors and I watch you bust in LDT's house and claim half of it as your own... You best believe Im gonna take prevention measures for my properties own interest. In The case of Russia and Ukraine Tell Putin to go suck a fat nut... He's sent thousands on young men to their deaths and got blood running through the streets for a Fucking land grab.... You invaded your neighbor once before and you're the mad one that they wanted to join NATO because they're afraid you might (And he did) Invade again.... Now you can beat around the bush all you want because im sure you'll bring up a conspiracy or something unproven to counter any and everything but Russia's in the wrong on this one... how is what Russia is doing different to what USa has done, how many women and children have been bombed, cmon man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, FreeBird said: how is what Russia is doing different to what USa has done, how many women and children have been bombed, cmon man ↳ What's your point? Is it that because America has made some objectionable foreign policy decisions in the past, it's okay for Russia to do so? Did your mom ever teach that two wrongs don't make a right? Concerns about the conditions for just war notwithstanding, do you really think it's in America's best interest to allow Putin to run roughshod through Eastern Europe while we sit on our hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: What's your point? Is it that because America has made some objectionable foreign policy decisions in the past, it's okay for Russia to do so? Did your mom ever teach that two wrongs don't make a right? Concerns about the conditions for just war notwithstanding, do you really think it's in America's best interest to allow Putin to run roughshod through Eastern Europe while we sit on our hands? Russia was just being proactive. They didn’t want to risk the inevitable. They had to go on the offensive. Putin is not innocent for killing civilians, but that same blood is on Biden and Zelenskyy’s hands as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Russia was just being proactive. They didn’t want to risk the inevitable. They had to go on the offensive. Putin is not innocent for killing civilians, but that same blood is on Biden and Zelenskyy’s hands as well by being "proactive" they invaded a nation....unprovoked. They are 110% wrong....says 143 countries who condemned Putin for his actions. It's shocking right-wing nuts don't understand the obvious once again. Did you donate any $$ to mother Russia yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Russia was just being proactive. They didn’t want to risk the inevitable. They had to go on the offensive. Putin is not innocent for killing civilians, but that same blood is on Biden and Zelenskyy’s hands as well ↳ I guess the same could be said of Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor. You can't blame a state for being proactive in its pursuit of its political ambitions. If you really think about it, it was the UK's and America's fault for getting in the way of Japan's interests. I just hadn't thought about the rights of nations in that light before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Belly Bob said: I guess the same could be said of Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor. You can't blame a state for being proactive in its pursuit of its political ambitions. If you really think about it, it was the UK's and America's fault for getting in the way of Japan's interests. I just hadn't thought about the rights of nations in that light before. Biden and Zelensky forced Putin’s hand. He was backed into a corner. It’s the equivalent of your enemies straight up telling you that they are coming to your house and setting up shop with all kinds of people and weapons. You might feel like it’s time to go to their hood guns blazing just to get a jump on them. Biden should have went on national TV and stared into the camera and said unequivocally Ukraine will not and NEVER be admitted into NATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Biden and Zelensky forced Putin’s hand. He was backed into a corner. It’s the equivalent of your enemies straight up telling you that they are coming to your house and setting up shop with all kinds of people and weapons. You might feel like it’s time to go to their hood guns blazing just to get a jump on them. Biden should have went on national TV and stared into the camera and said unequivocally Ukraine will not and NEVER be admitted into NATO. LOL...never admitted??...yet they are getting assistance from most NATO countries already...too late champ...NATO got Ukraine's back...the way it should...you right wingers took a wrong turn here...once again...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, DBP66 said: LOL...never admitted??...yet they are getting assistance from most NATO countries already...too late champ...NATO got Ukraine's back...the way it should...you right wingers took a wrong turn here...once again...🙄 Yeah Ukraine and Biden pushed Putin into a war with them, and the whole world has to suffer over fights with oil, gas and food. We are paying the price because the war mongers in DC needed a bigger money laundering scheme after the Afghanistan debacle. The felt this would be more profitable. Afghanistan was old money. This new war they created is fresh and much more profitable. and we all have to suffer. Because your leaders war. It wasn’t enough that China and the dems unleashed covid on us, they have to cripple us more economically with this money laundering war. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Belly Bob said: If Republicans are in power and you complain that medicine is too expensive, that you've got to work two jobs to make ends meet, then you're a socialist and your view is not to be heard. If Democrats are in power and you complain that energy is too expensive, that you've got to work two jobs to make ends meet, then you're right. Thats the Government fault and they should really do something about it. Everyone is a hypocrite and nobody has the slightest clue wtf they’re talking about? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Yeah Ukraine and Biden pushed Putin into a war with them, and the whole world has to suffer over fights with oil, gas and food. We are paying the price because the war mongers in DC needed a bigger money laundering scheme after the Afghanistan debacle. The felt this would be more profitable. Afghanistan was old money. This new war they created is fresh and much more profitable. and we all have to suffer. Because your leaders war. It wasn’t enough that China and the dems unleashed covid on us, they have to cripple us more economically with this money laundering war. pushed Putin into a war??....wtf is wrong with you??...who is the aggressor trying to take land that DOESN"T belong to them??...the Ukrainians or the Russians...you so called Conservatives have all lost your minds...Russia=BAD....🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 hours ago, GoBigBlack said: Everyone is a hypocrite and nobody has the slightest clue wtf they’re talking about? Correct. ↳ Most people are inconsistent in their thinking. And they remain so even when you point it out. Or that's what I see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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