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10 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

You can't convert to an ethnicity. Tim identifies as Jewish. He doesn't practice Judaism. 

 

And while some European Jews may have converted, it is likely most of the physical/genetic differentiation between the two major Jewish groups (Ashkenazim and Sephardim) has to do with mixing with non-Jewish populations after the diaspora,

 

[Belly Bob]

1 minute ago, DevilDog said:

 Moses had 2 Sons they were Cushites.   ↳

According to Demetrius, the Chronographer and Ezekiel, the Tragedian, the Cushite wife of Moses in Numbers 12:1-16 is Zipporah

So for the revisionist these are white boys

I haven't seen our 21st century categories of race expressed in the Old Testament. 

Now, I know you've got it all worked out, but you have to remember that I'm exceptionally ignorant. I still can't figure out how the Ancient Israelites could've been so prescient as to give us definitive answers to racial questions that would bedevil us Americans in the 21st century.

[Horsefly]

18 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

It's strange that, in the very same post, you mention how racial categories change over time, but you're also certain that Jesus wouldn't have been seen as white.

When? By whom? Which categories? What society? 

the census has conveniently classified northern Africans and middle easterners as white. That’s so they can take credit for Egyptology and Jesus lineage.  The truth is those people have a lot of hues. They aren’t socially conceived as “white” 

Africans don’t classify themselves as “black” it’s a social construct heavily used in America. 

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46 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

No their actions are unfortunate because they didn’t align with their actions. Africans enslaved weren’t treated nor even identified as men and didn’t have the rights and privileges as white men.  That’s a fact 

 

And it was 1) INHERITED, 2) ENDED at great loss of life, 3) was actually practiced by only small fraction of the white population and 4) was made possible by blacks enslaving other blacks in the first place.

 

[Belly Bob]

3 minutes ago, concha said:

And while some European Jews may have converted, it is likely most of the physical/genetic differentiation between the two major Jewish groups (Ashkenazim and Sephardim) has to do with mixing with non-Jewish populations after the diaspora, ↳

Well, I don't know.

According to @DevilDog, "their Bible" says that they descended from Gomar. So, think about that. 

[DevilDog]

Evaluating the share of households that owned slaves in seceding states is “a much more effective means,” said Joseph Glatthaar, history professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. In 1860, nearly 20% of households in seceding states owned slaves, he said. 

“To break it down about how many U.S. citizens owned slaves is absurd,”  Those whites in seceding states benefitted greatly as relatives of the 20% ownership.  

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15 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

In 1958, President Nasser of Egypt said of the Jews: 'They left here black and came back white'

 

Sounds like he was a dumbass.

Maybe it has to do with them being slaves then and doctors and lawyers working indoors now  

 

[Belly Bob]

5 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

the census has conveniently classified northern Africans and middle easterners as white. That’s so they can take credit for Egyptology and Jesus lineage.  The truth is those people have a lot of hues. They aren’t socially conceived as “white”  ↳

Africans don’t classify themselves as “black” it’s a social construct heavily used in America.  ↳

Ah, the US Census wants to make sure that white people get credit for Egyptology (whatever that means), though Jesus, who would've looked similar to the Egyptians, wouldn't be seen as white by those same people.

That's plausible. 

[DevilDog]

Gomer (Hebrew: גֹּמֶר‎ Gōmer, pronounced [ˈɡomeʁ]; Greek: Γαμὲρ, romanized: Gamér) was the eldest son of Japheth (and of the Japhetic line), and father of Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah, according to the "Table of Nations" in the Hebrew Bible (Genesis 10).

He has three sons, namely; Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.

this explains your European white Jews.  

[Horsefly]

30 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

Yes. We went to war over it. 

Lol. you’re trying to pass it off as if the principles of humanity and freedom for all men existed from its inception.  It obviously did not! 

[Belly Bob]

1 minute ago, DevilDog said:

Gomer (Hebrew: גֹּמֶר‎ Gōmer, pronounced [ˈɡomeʁ]; Greek: Γαμὲρ, romanized: Gamér) was the eldest son of Japheth (and of the Japhetic line), and father of Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah, according to the "Table of Nations" in the Hebrew Bible (Genesis 10).

He has three sons, namely; Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.

Yes, so think about that, @concha.

[DevilDog]

Gomer is said to be the father of ancient Cimmerians. Kimmerians or Cimmerians were warlike tribes of Aryans that fought against the nations in the northwest Asia during 670 to 570 BC.

[Belly Bob]

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

Lol. you’re trying to pass it off as if the principles of humanity and freedom for all men existed from its inception.  It obviously did not!  ↳

Yes, they did. 

People don't always live according to the principles that they themselves endorse. That's why we have human emotions like guilt. 

[Horsefly]

1 minute ago, Belly Bob said:

Ah, the US Census wants to make sure that white"people get credit for Egyptology (whatever that means), though Jesus, who would've looked similar to the Egyptians, wouldn't be seen as white by those same people.

That's plausible. 

The point is the census is/was politically tainted. It’s category of races serves to further those agendas 

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18 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

 Moses had 2 Sons they were Cushites.  

According to Demetrius, the Chronographer and Ezekiel, the Tragedian, the Cushite wife of Moses in Numbers 12:1-16 is Zipporah

So for the revisionist these are white boys

 

I was unaware that Moses and the missus birthed the entire Jewish nation.

 

[Belly Bob]

Just now, DevilDog said:

Gomer is said to be the father of ancient Cimmerians. Kimmerians or Cimmerians were warlike tribes of Ayryans that fought against the nations in the northwest Asia during 670 to 570 BC.

@concha, have you heard the word "Aryan" before?

Think about it. It's all snapping into focus now.

[DevilDog]

Gomar was a white man and gave birth to Ashkenaz the father of Ashkenazi's.  Since Moses wife was Black and he is the patron saint of Hebrews and married a black woman with black Children.  Where is the black DNA in those Ashkenazi Jews?

It's in the Lemba and Ethiopian Jews and Palestinian Jews.  But oddly missing in a certain sect 

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7 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Evaluating the share of households that owned slaves in seceding states is “a much more effective means,” said Joseph Glatthaar, history professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. In 1860, nearly 20% of households in seceding states owned slaves, he said. 

“To break it down about how many U.S. citizens owned slaves is absurd,”  Those whites in seceding states benefitted greatly as relatives of the 20% ownership.  

 

Let's go with that number then.

The North had about 22 million people.

The South had about 9 million including 3.5 million slaves.

What happens when you dilute that 20% by including the North?

Because every white man is an evil oppressor, right?

 

[Belly Bob]

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

The point is the census is/was politically tainted. It’s category of races serves to further those agendas 

So, once again, whose categories are we using?

We probably want to answer that question before we decide on the whiteness or blackness of Jesus, since these categories are so often politically tainted. 

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8 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

Yes, so think about that, @concha.

 

I thought Gomer was the marine or soldier from that old comedy.

Very confusing.

 

[DevilDog]

3 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

@concha, have you heard the word "Aryan" before?

Think about it. It's all snapping into focus now.

Be mad at the white Male that included that word in the bible timeline of world history.  I'm pretty sure black people didn't invent the word Aryan

[Belly Bob]

2 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Gomar was a white man and gave birth to Ashkenaz the father of Ashkenazi's.  Since Moses wife was Black and he is the patron saint of Hebrews and married a black woman with black Children.  Where is the black DNA in those Ashkenazi Jews?

It's in the Lemba and Ethiopian Jews and Palestinian Jews.  But oddly missing in a certain sect 

Ah.

Gomar white.

Moses black.

Ashkanzi white.

Hebrews black?

I thought Abraham was the patriarch of the Hebrews.

Abaraham black?

Old Testament categories of race, or ours?

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5 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

@concha, have you heard the word "Aryan" before?

Think about it. It's all snapping into focus now.

 

Of course. It was made famous by Hitler. Which is interesting as it refers to peoples and language originating in ancient India. In fact, the swastika of the Nazis is a perverted ancient Aryan symbol.

That's off the top of my head. Roughly accurate?

 

[DevilDog]

4 minutes ago, concha said:

 

I thought Gomer was the marine or soldier from that old comedy.

Very confusing.

 

Of course you only believe part of the bible .  The bible says Egypt (Mizraim)) is the son of Ham and the brother of Cush.  The ancient Egyptian  language is in the Afro Asiactic luanguage tree.  Not Eudopean of Greek.  Not one damn pyramid in either.  More pyramids in Cush than any where on earth.  Facts 

[Belly Bob]

10 minutes ago, concha said:

I was unaware that Moses and the missus birthed the entire Jewish nation. ↳

Maybe just Hebrews.

The real Jews.

Maybe the real Jews are black.