concha Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Horsefly said: So how would those numbers adjust removing the Hispanics? Do you want to remove Italians too? Lol talk about desperate, you’ve been scrambling around for years trying to uphold the false sense of white hypermorality and ethics. 😂 Anyways, I’m done over here. I saw what I needed and confirmed what I thought Many Hispanics are considered people of color, no? 🤡 And again, you pathetically stick to this straw man. I guess when you are trying to argue crime and your team is 13% of the population but commits over half the murders, you're kinda stuck with fabricating and projecting. Amirite? 🤡 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, concha said: Many Hispanics are considered people of color, no? 🤡 And again, you pathetically stick to this straw man. I guess when you are trying to argue crime and your team is 13% of the population but commits over half the murders, you're kinda stuck with fabricating and projecting. Amirite? 🤡 😂 Conch its over, I’ve left the room on this topic. I pop in every so often, stir things up and see what falls. I got my info and will use it to confirm/develop my viewpoints. Thanks for participating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Troll said: Yes certainly sounds like the war mongers had their issues with the antiwar hippies and radical groups like the black panthers...do you think he's talking about "all hippies and all blacks"...or just the "anti-war radicalists" ones that gave them problems"? and if it were anything to do with "color" as priority, why did they target all those white hippies? PS: your quote kinda sorta actually shows it ain't actually about color even tho they use the word "black" so freely... BTW: Do you think Kamala will get Spiro Agnew'ed, before Joey has to hand the throne over? 🤔 Well who did he say? You think he spent hundreds of millions in resources to target the ~2k or so black panthers? if you say so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just a footnote here... but you know how I can be so sure about "color" NOT being the actual problem ? While some mistakenly think "color" causes "corruption"... Corruption does not respect any tradition or value, color pride included. just sayin' 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, concha said: Whites includes Hispanics and overall the crimes committed are at worst inline with their proportion of the population. Remove Hispanics and the crime rate in the white community drops. It's amusing in a pathetic way seeing you desperately grasping at anything you can dream up. Newsflash: Low crime, low violence communities don't need heavy policing. 🤪 No, white does not include Hispanics. You are lacking in social studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Well who did he say? You think he spent hundreds of millions in resources to target the ~2k or so black panthers? if you say so... how could I think that when you just demonstrated he targeted white hippies with it ? DUH! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Wildcat Will said: No, white does not include Hispanics. You are lacking in social studies. Psssssst... ever hear "better to be a fool and keep yer mouth shut...." ? 🤣 PS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: No, white does not include Hispanics. You are lacking in social studies. The FBI often distinguishes race from ethnicity. Both white and black can include Hispanic. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: No, white does not include Hispanics. You are lacking in social studies. ↳ When the FBI uses "white" to refer to non-Hispanic whites and "black" to refer to non-Hispanic blacks, then whites are underrepresented among persons arrested for violent crimes, while both blacks and Hispanics are overrepresented. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: When the FBI uses "white" to refer to "non-Hispanic whites" and "black" to refer to "non-Hispanic blacks," then whites are underrepresented among persons arrested for violent crimes, while both blacks and Hispanics are overrepresented. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf and thus you could make an argument EITHER way 🤣 if you are determined that "color" is cause, and the only lens worth looking thru... that "you" are somehow getting screwed... 🤔 PS: go figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Belly Bob said: When the FBI uses "white" to refer to non-Hispanic whites and "black" to refer to non-Hispanic blacks, then whites are underrepresented among persons arrested for violent crimes, while both blacks and Hispanics are overrepresented. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf Any remotely intelligent person looking at the FBI crime stats would realize that at the very least the great majority of people listed as Hispanic have to fit under the White category when it comes to race. Most Hispanics in the country are mestizos of Mexican descent (60%). Mexico has hardly any blacks and it's not because they all came here. Cubans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are 3 of the 4 next largest (but much smaller) Hispanic groups and have some African ancestry but they are mostly mulattos. They generally would identify as Hispanic and not as black (as a typical Haitian or Jamaican American would). The 3rd largest group is Salvadorans, who are not black. It's hilarious that Assclown would try to call me on this. It's not like I married a Hispanic woman and lived in various places in Latin America for many years, while he was in Bumfuck, Georgia running the McFlurry machine and whining about The Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Troll said: Psssssst... ever hear "better to be a fool and keep yer mouth shut...." ? 🤣 PS: You continue to expose yourself. Keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Belly Bob said: When the FBI uses "white" to refer to non-Hispanic whites and "black" to refer to non-Hispanic blacks, then whites are underrepresented among persons arrested for violent crimes, while both blacks and Hispanics are overrepresented. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf I was simply pointing out that Hispanic is not classified as white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 12 hours ago, concha said: Any remotely intelligent person looking at the FBI crime stats would realize that at the very least the great majority of people listed as Hispanic have to fit under the White category when it comes to race. Most Hispanics in the country are mestizos of Mexican descent (60%). Mexico has hardly any blacks and it's not because they all came here. Cubans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans are 3 of the 4 next largest (but much smaller) Hispanic groups and have some African ancestry but they are mostly mulattos. They generally would identify as Hispanic and not as black (as a typical Haitian or Jamaican American would). The 3rd largest group is Salvadorans, who are not black. It's hilarious that Assclown would try to call me on this. It's not like I married a Hispanic woman and lived in various places in Latin America for many years, while he was in Bumfuck, Georgia running the McFlurry machine and whining about The Man. Got your panties in a bunch there Skippy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 It's great how Willie raises his hand so often to confirm how ignorant and stupid he is. Thanks, Willie! Per the Census, about 5% of the black population of this country also identifies as Hispanic. If you look at FBI stats, the data for the vast majority of Hispanics HAS to fit under the White category because there isn't nearly enough room to allocate the ethnic Hispanic crimes committed to the much smaller racial categories of Native American, Asian or Pacific-Islander. Therefore, for the purpose of the debate, Hispanic was overwhelmingly under "White". So, "White" (racial category) DOES include Hispanics (ethnic categorization). In fact, it includes the majority of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 hours ago, concha said: It's great how Willie raises his hand so often to confirm how ignorant and stupid he is. Thanks, Willie! Per the Census, about 5% of the black population of this country also identifies as Hispanic. If you look at FBI stats, the data for the vast majority of Hispanics HAS to fit under the White category because there isn't nearly enough room to allocate the ethnic Hispanic crimes committed to the much smaller racial categories of Native American, Asian or Pacific-Islander. Therefore, for the purpose of the debate, Hispanic was overwhelmingly under "White". So, "White" (racial category) DOES include Hispanics (ethnic categorization). In fact, it includes the majority of them. Hispanic is not classified as white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Wildcat Will said: Hispanic is not classified as white. "No, white does not include Hispanics." - Willie the Dumbass The Census even has special sub-categories like "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino" in order to identify racial whites from racial whites who also identify ethnically as Hispanics. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/note/US/RHI825221 🤣 White alone, not Hispanic or Latino are individuals who responded "No, not Spanish/Hispanic/Latino" and who reported "White" as their only entry in the race question. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/note/US/RHI725221 People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race. Thanks for confirming - yet again - what an ignorant imbecile you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 20 hours ago, Wildcat Will said: No, white does not include Hispanics. You are lacking in social studies. 41 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: Hispanic is not classified as white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Wildcat Will said: I was simply pointing out that Hispanic is not classified as white. But Hispanics are classified as white. It's as if you said that Wichita is not in Kansas. And then I posted a link to an official map of Kansas that clearly marked Wichita within its boundaries. And then you replied that you were simply pointing out that Wichita is not in Kansas. I'm puzzled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 21 hours ago, concha said: Any remotely intelligent person looking at the FBI crime stats would realize that at the very least the great majority of people listed as Hispanic have to fit under the White category when it comes to race. Yes. Moreover, the report states that in roughly 9-12% of cases, victims of violent crime were not able to determine whether the offender was Hispanic, which led the analyst to note that the involvement of Hispanics in violent crime may in fact be underestimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 hours ago, Belly Bob said: But Hispanics are classified as white. It's as if you said that Wichita is not in Kansas. And then I posted a link to an official map of Kansas that clearly marked Wichita within its boundaries. And then you replied that you were simply pointing out that Wichita is not in Kansas. I'm puzzled. I get it. What follows in quotes is from a recent article. "As of 2020, 62 million or 18.7% of residents of the United States of America identified as Hispanic or Latino of which 12.5 million or 20.3% self-identified as white alone down from the 2019 American Community Survey when 38.3 million, or 65.5% of Latinos self-identified as white." Here we see that the Hispanics that do not claim Hispanic or Latino, 12.5 million, identify as "white" only. This adds them to the count as white only, no Hispanic origin, just white. Non-Hispanic whites or non-Latino whites are Americans who are classified as "white", and are not of Hispanic (also known as "Latino") heritage.[4][5] The United States Census Bureau defines white to include European Americans, Middle Eastern Americans, and North African Americans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: I get it. What follows in quotes is from a recent article. "As of 2020, 62 million or 18.7% of residents of the United States of America identified as Hispanic or Latino of which 12.5 million or 20.3% self-identified as white alone down from the 2019 American Community Survey when 38.3 million, or 65.5% of Latinos self-identified as white." Here we only I see that the Hispanics that do not claim Hispanic or Latino, 12.5 million, identify as "white" only. This adds them to the count as white only, no Hispanic origin, just white. only a fool would try to pass off this logic fail and non-comprehension as an excuse, while everyone else is already laughing as the fool just keeps digging herself deeper. LOLOL\ PS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Troll said: only a fool would try to pass off this logic fail and non-comprehension as an excuse, while everyone else is already laughing as the fool just keeps digging herself deeper. LOLOL\ PS: Not there yet boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Wildcat Will said: Not there yet boy. maybe you should give up trying there, girl...👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Troll said: maybe you should give up trying there, girl...👍 Me thinks someone feelings have been hurt. Somebody put the truth in his little head and now he is acting out. No pudding for you tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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