coach_warren Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Doubt red mountain is the #2 team in Zona. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, 954gator said: Doubt red mountain is the #2 team in Zona. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 azvarsity.com had RM ranked pre-season #2. Turnovers killed them vs Chandler. I believe azcentral.com had them #5 or 6 pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Arizona Varsity had Red Mountain #2 in 6A behind Chandler; were #3 overall. AZCentral had them fourth in 6A, and SportsAZ360.com had them eighth in 6A. I'm a guy that values methodology in rankings and I question any methodology that had that team higher than #5 in 6A once it became known that Austin Duffy wasn't coming back. You're essentially elevating a team to elite status on the basis of one dominant offensive player (who sat out against Chandler), a good defensive player (from a mediocre unit), and a few second-tier starters from said mediocre defense. Red Mountain at #4 was generous, them ahead of Mountain Pointe at #2 is absurd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I think we all know Mountain Pointe is #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Silky Beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I wish Chandler good fortune this coming week, they are going to need it. IMG is Fn HUGE. I want IMG to lose so badly this year, but I just don't see it happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. Go Chandler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach_warren Posted August 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, 954gator said: I wish Chandler good fortune this coming week, they are going to need it. IMG is Fn HUGE. I want IMG to lose so badly this year, but I just don't see it happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. Go Chandler! Same. I think Centennial is the only one that can pull it off though. I don't think the rest of the teams can compete...Miami Central is talented but I see them fading away like Carol City, overwhelmed by their size, depth, and talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I agree MP should be #2 but as week 1 approaches it means nothing now. The final poll is the only one that matters. I'm curious to see if Pinnacle can be a serious contender for 6A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Chandler is good and has a shot at home, but I think IMG wears them down. I want Chandler to win, but IMG is an all star team. Early in the season is the best time to play IMG, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 azcentral top 5 in 6A- Chandler, MP, Perry, Hamilton, Pinnacle. 5A- Centennial #1 4A- Saguaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I should know this but do Chandler, Centennial and Saguaro play each during the reg season or playoffs? Thx. Nope. Not sure they ever played (Wooderson or Jimbo would know). Playoffs not possible currently (3 different classes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I should know this but do Chandler, Centennial and Saguaro play each during the reg season or playoffs? Thx. Chandler 6A Cent 5A Saguaro 4A So the answer is no for playoffs and no during reg season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: That sux. For once, NJs hsfb rules and regs are good compared to another state!! Cant imagine SJR and DP not being able to play the Fab4 from Group 4 each season. Yea a little like FL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 minute ago, golfaddict1 said: Yea a little like FL. Not sure if it is so now but schedules (regular season) were computer generated in the past. I think besides region/league games those extra games were the ones that were computer generated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 8-5 last year, jumped to #2 in the state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, old_e said: 8-5 last year, jumped to #2 in the state? Weird huh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 #4 sounds more where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Wooderson had them pretty far down from what I recall. Somewhere around 6-8 in 6A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: Wooderson had them pretty far down from what I recall. Somewhere around 6-8 in 6A. azvarsity had RM #2 in pre-season (6A) Wood had them #7 pre-season. azcentral had RM pre-season #4. azcentral has them #8 after zero week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 17 hours ago, 954gator said: I wish Chandler good fortune this coming week, they are going to need it. IMG is Fn HUGE. I want IMG to lose so badly this year, but I just don't see it happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. Go Chandler! I think Chandler has a shot. IMG, for a top rated program with tons of resources, looked pretty sloppy against Carol City. They also had a lot of trouble snapping the ball. A good, disciplined team has more than a shot at beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, DarterBlue said: I think Chandler has a shot. IMG, for a top rated program with tons of resources, looked pretty sloppy against Carol City. They also had a lot of trouble snapping the ball. A good, disciplined team has more than a shot at beating them. Early last season they were getting flagged every other play too. Takes some time for these fabricated teams to come together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, DarterBlue said: I think Chandler has a shot. IMG, for a top rated program with tons of resources, looked pretty sloppy against Carol City. They also had a lot of trouble snapping the ball. A good, disciplined team has more than a shot at beating them. I used to think this as well, but Carol City is a pretty good (and deep) run stopping team, and IMG just controlled the line so well. Now that they have a few top running backs...I just don't see many HS teams stopping them. Also their secondary, which was somewhat weak last couple seasons is top notch this year. Their one weakness I saw was their long snapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach_warren Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 56 minutes ago, 954gator said: I used to think this as well, but Carol City is a pretty good (and deep) run stopping team, and IMG just controlled the line so well. Now that they have a few top running backs...I just don't see many HS teams stopping them. Also their secondary, which was somewhat weak last couple seasons is top notch this year. Their one weakness I saw was their long snapper. Could not agree more. Carol City is far from a slouch, dare I say a national top 25 team, even. And they got HANDLED by IMG. Taking IMG to suplex Chandler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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