Horsefly Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 43 minutes ago, DBP66 said: Concha (aka Don Rickles) is so brainwashed he thinks the guys chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" were just kidding....he drank all the Kool-Aid he could find. Yeah the brainwashing is a deep. It will take a serious intervention to bring some of them out of their rut. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Yeah the brainwashing is a deep. It will take a serious intervention to bring some of them out of their rut. This is true... on both sides unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 20 minutes ago, Troll said: maybe they are... but being "too smart" to pay (the nice paywall lol) for your own "brainwashing propaganda" is not really a very high bar now is it... 🤡 PS: and you never answered...you know...if you are worried about them finding you "breaking the law" ...by posting all their articles word for word here... 🤡🤡 BTW: If not ... ...how come? 🤡🤡🤡 Don't be scared....I forget how scared you are of facts and the N.Y. Times....stick with the daily conspiracies...they haven't failed you yet!!....🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Troll said: This is true... on both sides unfortunately. I'm scared to ask BUT....what was/is the left being brainwashed about vs. the BIG lie being told to the right by the right for the past 3 years?....the only people who have been brainwashed are you and the 30% of election deniers who will go to their graves believing a BIG lie...SAD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: I'm scared to ask BUT....what was/is the left being brainwashed about vs. the BIG lie being told to the right by the right for the past 3 years?....the only people who have been brainwashed are you and the 30% of election deniers who will go to their graves believing a BIG lie...SAD 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Troll said: 🤡 figured...🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, DBP66 said: I'm scared to ask BUT....what was/is the left being brainwashed about vs. the BIG lie being told to the right by the right for the past 3 years?....the only people who have been brainwashed are you and the 30% of election deniers who will go to their graves believing a BIG lie...SAD It runs deeper than just denying the election results, many felt that trump was actually running the gov (behind the scenes) and Biden was in a studio that looked like the Oval Office, pretending to be potus. 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 9 minutes ago, Horsefly said: It runs deeper than just denying the election results, many felt that trump was actually running the gov (behind the scenes) and Biden was in a studio that looked like the Oval Office, pretending to be potus. 😜 I honestly never heard this one?!^...too funny!....it seems like all bets are off these days....the crazier the conspiracy the more people seem to fall for it??....the truth has a hard time showing it's head these days when you have people like Murdock and Fox news manipulating the public with lies for profit...it's sickening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 22 minutes ago, Horsefly said: It runs deeper than just denying the election results, many felt that trump was actually running the gov (behind the scenes) and Biden was in a studio that looked like the Oval Office, pretending to be potus. 😜 LOL...true again But MORE people think it is Big O and co actually pulling the strings ... PS: ya gotta admit though, you could see how some people might get the impression.... that SOMEBODY has to be... 🤔 BTW: wonder where they could ever get such an idea? LOL... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 10 hours ago, Troll said: perhaps you should explain what you think your point is here first....(since you're requesting a response)🙄 your post was a reply to a claim that the protester's intent wasn't to overthrow the gov. Are you claiming they could or they did? not sure how some quoted messages (of the shit show) even supports that. PS: my belief is that those "protests" were about as big a farce as the election... ...but I have never condoned 1/6, so why you group me with others is questionable to even begin with. BTW: If you would like something from the shit show to address... well...here ya go...(but maybe that's just some "deep fake", what do you think?) https://www.bitchute.com/video/5gxHmIEhZnpQ/ Oh yea, almost forgot...tock tick ⏰ . . . ⏰ . . . ⏰ 🤣 Honestly, My bad Troll. I keep putting you on the Right side. 😇 I was just wondering your thoughts on the Republicans worry about what was going on near and inside the Capitol. My 1hr. reference was to point out the “perceived” chaos that was underway. Since Jan. 6th. is portrayed as a day long event, the fact that this amount of worry accumulated at that time so quickly prompted those covering the event and watching the event to ponder whether or not the President, Donald Trump, would say anything to defuse what they believed were happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Good News, McCarthy says he plans to release all 44,000 hours of video to the public so we can see for ourselves. All of it! Not just the doctored clips w/dubbed in sound the democrats showed the country during their made for Tv production they called the Jan 6 committee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 37 minutes ago, Warrior said: Good News, McCarthy says he plans to release all 44,000 hours of video to the public so we can see for ourselves. All of it! Not just the doctored clips w/dubbed in sound the democrats showed the country during their made for Tv production they called the Jan 6 committee. That is the best case scenario for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 47 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Honestly, My bad Troll. I keep putting you on the Right side. 😇 I was just wondering your thoughts on the Republicans worry about what was going on near and inside the Capitol. My 1hr. reference was to point out the “perceived” chaos that was underway. Since Jan. 6th. is portrayed as a day long event, the fact that this amount of worry accumulated at that time so quickly prompted those covering the event and watching the event to ponder whether or not the President, Donald Trump, would say anything to defuse what they believed were happening. thanks for not "grouping"... my thoughts are/were... it was a contrived shit show, by both sides. With each playing to their brainwashed "constituents" 🤷♂️ PS: did you like the shaman bullhorn?!?... ...probably had not seen that one before I'm guessing. 🐮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Dear Conservatives, I Apologize My "Team" was Taken in By Full-Spectrum Propaganda Dr Naomi Wolf There is no way to avoid this moment. The formal letter of apology. From me. To Conservatives and to those who “put America first” everywhere. It’s tempting to sweep this confrontation with my own gullibility under the rug — to “move on” without ever acknowledging that I was duped, and that as a result I made mistakes in judgement, and that these mistakes, multiplied by the tens of thousands and millions on the part of people just like me, hurt millions of other people like you all, in existential ways. But that erasure of personal and public history would be wrong. I owe you a full-throated apology. I believed a farrago of lies. And, as a result of these lies, and my credulity — and the credulity of people similarly situated to me - many conservatives’ reputations are being tarnished, on false bases. The proximate cause of this letter of apology is the airing, two nights ago, of excepts from tens of thousands of hours of security camera footage from the United States Capitol taken on Jan 6, 2021. The footage was released by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson [https://www.axios.com/2023/03/08/mccarthy-defends-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news]. While “fact-checkers” state that it is “misinformation” to claim that Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Capitol Police on that day [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/], the fact is that the USCP is under the oversight of Congress, according to — the United States Capitol Police: [https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight]. This would be the same Congress that convened the January 6 Committee subsequently, and that used millions of dollars in taxpayer money to turn that horrible day, and that tragic event, into a message point that would be used to tar a former President as a would-be terrorist, and to smear all Republicans, by association, as “insurrectionists,” or as insurrectionists’ sympathizers and fellow-travelers. There is no way to unsee Officer Brian Sicknick, claimed by some Democrats in leadership and by most of the legacy media to have been killed by rioters at the Capitol that day, alive in at least one section of the newly released video. The USCP medical examiner states that this Officer died of “natural causes,” but also that he died “in the line of duty.” Whatever the truth of this confusing conclusion, and with all respect for and condolences to Officer Sicknick’s family, the circumstances of his death do matter to the public, as without his death having been caused by the events of Jan 6, the breach of the capitol, serious though it was, cannot be described as a “deadly insurrection.” [https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/medical-examiner-finds-uscp-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes] Sadly, though the contrary was what was reported, Officer Sicknick died two days after Jan 6, from suffering two strokes. https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-after-suffering-two-strokes-day-after-jan-6-report/ There is no way for anyone thoughtful, even if he or she is a lifelong Democrat, not to notice that Sen Chuck Schumer did not say to the world that the footage that Mr Carlson aired was not real. Rather, he warned that it was “shameful” for Fox to allow us to see it. The Guardian characterized Mr Carlson’s and Fox News’ sin, weirdly, as “Over-Use” of Jan 6 footage. Isn’t the press supposed to want full transparency for all public interest events? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/mar/07/biden-medicare-taxes-desantis-trump-2024-live-updates] How can you “over-use” real footage of events of national relevance? Sen Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Senate minority leader, did not say the video on Fox News was fake or doctored. He said, rather, that it was “a mistake” to depart from the views of the events held by the chief of the Capitol Police. This is a statement from McConnell about orthodoxy — not a statement about a specific truth or untruth. [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5060662/senator-mcconnell-calls-tucker-carlsons-depiction-january-6-attack-mistake] I don’t agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos as depicting “mostly peaceful chaos.”[https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3887103-tucker-carlson-shows-the-first-of-his-jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/] I do think it is a mistake to downplay how serious it is when a legislative institution suffers a security breach of any kind, however that came to be. But you don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to believe, as I do, that he engaged in valuable journalism simply by airing the footage that was given to him. And remember, by law that footage belongs to us — it is a public record, and all public records literally belong to the American people. “In a democracy, records belong to the people,” explains the National Archives. [https://www.archives.gov/publications/general-info-leaflets/1-about-archives.html] You don’t have to agree with Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to notice the latest hypocrisy by the Left. My acquaintance and personal hero Daniel Ellsberg was rightly lionized by the Left for having illegally leaked the Pentagon Papers. The New York Times was rightly applauded for having run this leaked material in 1971. [https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1435/daniel-ellsberg]. I do not see how Mr Carlson’s airing of video material of national significance that the current government would prefer to keep hidden, or Fox News’ support for its disclosure to the public, is any different from that famous case of disclosure of inside information of public importance. You don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to conclude that the Democrats in leadership, for their own part, have cherry-picked, hyped, spun, and in some ways appear to have lied about, aspects of January 6, turning a tragedy for the nation into a politicized talking point aimed at discrediting half of our electorate... https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email @SeaShells21 @DBP66 @TheMaximumHornetSting @Horsefly @World Citizen and the rest of you brainwashed lefty sheep The above, is only about half of Dr. Naomi Wolf''s article, but unlike DBP66, I won't post the entire thing. But, feel free to follow the link and read the entire article if you so chose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Slotback Right said: Dear Conservatives, I Apologize My "Team" was Taken in By Full-Spectrum Propaganda Dr Naomi Wolf There is no way to avoid this moment. The formal letter of apology. From me. To Conservatives and to those who “put America first” everywhere. It’s tempting to sweep this confrontation with my own gullibility under the rug — to “move on” without ever acknowledging that I was duped, and that as a result I made mistakes in judgement, and that these mistakes, multiplied by the tens of thousands and millions on the part of people just like me, hurt millions of other people like you all, in existential ways. But that erasure of personal and public history would be wrong. I owe you a full-throated apology. I believed a farrago of lies. And, as a result of these lies, and my credulity — and the credulity of people similarly situated to me - many conservatives’ reputations are being tarnished, on false bases. The proximate cause of this letter of apology is the airing, two nights ago, of excepts from tens of thousands of hours of security camera footage from the United States Capitol taken on Jan 6, 2021. The footage was released by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson [https://www.axios.com/2023/03/08/mccarthy-defends-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news]. While “fact-checkers” state that it is “misinformation” to claim that Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Capitol Police on that day [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/], the fact is that the USCP is under the oversight of Congress, according to — the United States Capitol Police: [https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight]. This would be the same Congress that convened the January 6 Committee subsequently, and that used millions of dollars in taxpayer money to turn that horrible day, and that tragic event, into a message point that would be used to tar a former President as a would-be terrorist, and to smear all Republicans, by association, as “insurrectionists,” or as insurrectionists’ sympathizers and fellow-travelers. There is no way to unsee Officer Brian Sicknick, claimed by some Democrats in leadership and by most of the legacy media to have been killed by rioters at the Capitol that day, alive in at least one section of the newly released video. The USCP medical examiner states that this Officer died of “natural causes,” but also that he died “in the line of duty.” Whatever the truth of this confusing conclusion, and with all respect for and condolences to Officer Sicknick’s family, the circumstances of his death do matter to the public, as without his death having been caused by the events of Jan 6, the breach of the capitol, serious though it was, cannot be described as a “deadly insurrection.” [https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/medical-examiner-finds-uscp-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes] Sadly, though the contrary was what was reported, Officer Sicknick died two days after Jan 6, from suffering two strokes. https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-after-suffering-two-strokes-day-after-jan-6-report/ There is no way for anyone thoughtful, even if he or she is a lifelong Democrat, not to notice that Sen Chuck Schumer did not say to the world that the footage that Mr Carlson aired was not real. Rather, he warned that it was “shameful” for Fox to allow us to see it. The Guardian characterized Mr Carlson’s and Fox News’ sin, weirdly, as “Over-Use” of Jan 6 footage. Isn’t the press supposed to want full transparency for all public interest events? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/mar/07/biden-medicare-taxes-desantis-trump-2024-live-updates] How can you “over-use” real footage of events of national relevance? Sen Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Senate minority leader, did not say the video on Fox News was fake or doctored. He said, rather, that it was “a mistake” to depart from the views of the events held by the chief of the Capitol Police. This is a statement from McConnell about orthodoxy — not a statement about a specific truth or untruth. [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5060662/senator-mcconnell-calls-tucker-carlsons-depiction-january-6-attack-mistake] I don’t agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos as depicting “mostly peaceful chaos.”[https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3887103-tucker-carlson-shows-the-first-of-his-jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/] I do think it is a mistake to downplay how serious it is when a legislative institution suffers a security breach of any kind, however that came to be. But you don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to believe, as I do, that he engaged in valuable journalism simply by airing the footage that was given to him. And remember, by law that footage belongs to us — it is a public record, and all public records literally belong to the American people. “In a democracy, records belong to the people,” explains the National Archives. [https://www.archives.gov/publications/general-info-leaflets/1-about-archives.html] You don’t have to agree with Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to notice the latest hypocrisy by the Left. My acquaintance and personal hero Daniel Ellsberg was rightly lionized by the Left for having illegally leaked the Pentagon Papers. The New York Times was rightly applauded for having run this leaked material in 1971. [https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1435/daniel-ellsberg]. I do not see how Mr Carlson’s airing of video material of national significance that the current government would prefer to keep hidden, or Fox News’ support for its disclosure to the public, is any different from that famous case of disclosure of inside information of public importance. You don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to conclude that the Democrats in leadership, for their own part, have cherry-picked, hyped, spun, and in some ways appear to have lied about, aspects of January 6, turning a tragedy for the nation into a politicized talking point aimed at discrediting half of our electorate... https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email @SeaShells21 @DBP66 @TheMaximumHornetSting @Horsefly @World Citizen and the rest of you brainwashed lefty sheep The above, is only about half of Dr. Naomi Wolf''s article, but unlike DBP66, I won't post the entire thing. But, feel free to follow the link and read the entire article if you so chose. Fox News declined to show the hours of footage revealed during the committee hearings, but allowed tucker to review and release a few excerpts (cherry pick) to create the fox news narrative. 🤡 I’ll continue my judgement based on what I saw with my own eyes and not through the lens of Tucker Carlson. The bottomline, The protesters interrupted our democratic process to the point politicians had to take cover. It’s inexcusable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 28 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Fox News declined to show the hours of footage revealed during the committee hearings, but allowed tucker to review and release a few excerpts (cherry pick) to create the fox news narrative. 🤡 The J6 Committee cherry-picked the footage that supported their narrative, and ignored any footage that disputed that narrative. So why are the Dems complaining when we show our cherry-picked footage that supports our narrative, and ignore yours. Fair is fair. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted March 12 Author Report Share Posted March 12 43 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Fox News declined to show the hours of footage revealed during the committee hearings, but allowed tucker to review and release a few excerpts (cherry pick) to create the fox news narrative. 🤡 I’ll continue my judgement based on what I saw with my own eyes and not through the lens of Tucker Carlson. The bottomline, The protesters interrupted our democratic process to the point politicians had to take cover. It’s inexcusable. Wish u had this energy when the blm protesters held a whole city hostage for what 100 days? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, FreeBird said: Wish u had this energy when the blm protesters held a whole city hostage for what 100 days? I dont agree with any unlawfulness and don’t make excuses. There were over 10k arrested over the summer protests, hundreds charged with federal crimes. I didn’t devote 20 years of my life to mil service to see and gloat about America being ransacked and disrespected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, Slotback Right said: The J6 Committee cherry-picked the footage that supported their narrative, and ignored any footage that disputed that narrative. So why are the Dems complaining when we show our cherry-picked footage that supports our narrative, and ignore yours. Fair is fair. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. there has been no footage of anything that Tucker has shown that disputes what happened that day....believe your own eyes as to what happened that day....not a Fox news narrative to perpetuate another BIG lie....Tucker didn't have any "got-ya" moments based on "new" footage....He couldn't even "cherry pick" anything notable in all the hrs. of tapes he was given...wonk...wonk...Tucker failed to move the needle. The only reason Tucker was given the tapes was the nutty right made Mr. Jellyfish McCarty promise to give it to him...LOL...they love pulling the strings on their puppet....🙄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 8 hours ago, Slotback Right said: The J6 Committee cherry-picked the footage that supported their narrative, and ignored any footage that disputed that narrative. So why are the Dems complaining when we show our cherry-picked footage that supports our narrative, and ignore yours. Fair is fair. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. You do understand that convictions from Jan 6 occurred under federal judges one of them by a Republican judge who released the footage. (QAnon shaman) There were hours of footage released from the Jan 6 committee. That which was shown was criminal. Smh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Mike Pence Condemns Tucker Carlson’s Portrayal Of January 6th, Says History “Will Hold Donald Trump Accountable” For That Day 443 Ted Johnson Sat, March 11, 2023 at 10:56 PM EST Former Vice President Mike Pence was one of the featured speakers at the white-tie Gridiron Club dinner in Washington on Saturday, an event that typically is a showcase of biting humor. But speaking to the crowd of about 600 journalists, administration officials and lawmakers, Pence turned serious at the end of his monologue, this time to condemn Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s downplaying of the attack on the Capitol on January 6. He also used his strongest language yet to criticize Donald Trump’s conduct on that day. Pence didn’t call out Carlson by name, but chided his characterization of January 6th rioters as “sightseers.” “January 6 was a tragic day for him. I was there at the Capitol, and let me assure you it was not, as some would have us believe, a matter of tourists peacefully enjoying our Capitol.” He added, “Tourists don’t injure 140 police officers by sightseeing. Tourists don’t break down doors to get to the Speaker of the House. Or voice threats against public officials. The American people have a right to know what took place at the Capitol on January 6. I expect members of Fourth Estate to continue to do their job. Make no mistake about it — what happened that day was a disgrace and it mocks decency to portray it in any other way.” Pence recounted his experience at the Capitol that day, as he refused Secret Service pleas to leave the complex to ensure his safety. “When I was escorted off the Senate floor Secret Service told me that I had to leave the building,” Pence said. “But I was determined to stay. I believed that law enforcement would soon have the situation in hand, never imagining what would unfurl, would occur. But it was there in that small office just off the Senate chamber, there was a small television set, and we watched what was unfolding outside — the mayhem and the rioting. You could hear it echoing outside, and soon thereafter in the hallways.” He added, “I always told my kids that the safest place in the world is to be in the center of God’s will. I knew where we were supposed to be, doing what we were supposed to be doing.” Pence then said that Trump’s conduct put his family in danger. ”I was not afraid but I was angry. President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day. And I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable” for what happened. Pence told Deadline afterward that he made the remarks about Carlson because he was concerned about “that narrative taking hold,” meaning the Fox News host’s effort to minimize the severity of the attack. Pence said that as the riot worsened on January 6th, his lead Secret Service detail came in for a third time, speaking “with greater urgency in his voice, saying that we need to leave the building. But I felt resolved. The more he insisted the more I did. I finally put my finger in his chest and I said, ‘You’re not hearing. I’m not leaving. I’m not giving those people the sight of a 16-car motorcade speeding away from the Capitol.’ “ Pence also praised the news media, telling the crowd that “we were able to stay in our post [at the Capitol] in part because you stayed in your post. The American people know what happened that day because you never stopped reporting. Your work inspired our actions and the actions of all the elected officials who reconvened the very same day and turned a day of tragedy into a triumph of freedom.” The former vice president, who is considering a 2024 presidential bid, received a standing ovation at the end of his remarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Definitely not an inside job, here’s a video of Capitol Police clearly directing the supposed Insurrectionist “it’s over, let’s go”. And funny thing they’re listening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, Warrior said: Definitely not an inside job, here’s a video of Capitol Police clearly directing the supposed Insurrectionist “it’s over, let’s go”. And funny thing they’re listening. Case closed. Definitely not an insurrection. Or an insurrection, but led by the tricky Democrats? Or just a few violent rednecks? Or a mostly peaceful demonstration? Or Trump bears no responsibility at all for the events? What is the big takeaway supposed to be from all this eye-opening J6 footage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 16 hours ago, Slotback Right said: Dear Conservatives, I Apologize My "Team" was Taken in By Full-Spectrum Propaganda Dr Naomi Wolf There is no way to avoid this moment. The formal letter of apology. From me. To Conservatives and to those who “put America first” everywhere. It’s tempting to sweep this confrontation with my own gullibility under the rug — to “move on” without ever acknowledging that I was duped, and that as a result I made mistakes in judgement, and that these mistakes, multiplied by the tens of thousands and millions on the part of people just like me, hurt millions of other people like you all, in existential ways. But that erasure of personal and public history would be wrong. I owe you a full-throated apology. I believed a farrago of lies. And, as a result of these lies, and my credulity — and the credulity of people similarly situated to me - many conservatives’ reputations are being tarnished, on false bases. The proximate cause of this letter of apology is the airing, two nights ago, of excepts from tens of thousands of hours of security camera footage from the United States Capitol taken on Jan 6, 2021. The footage was released by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson [https://www.axios.com/2023/03/08/mccarthy-defends-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news]. While “fact-checkers” state that it is “misinformation” to claim that Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Capitol Police on that day [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/], the fact is that the USCP is under the oversight of Congress, according to — the United States Capitol Police: [https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight]. This would be the same Congress that convened the January 6 Committee subsequently, and that used millions of dollars in taxpayer money to turn that horrible day, and that tragic event, into a message point that would be used to tar a former President as a would-be terrorist, and to smear all Republicans, by association, as “insurrectionists,” or as insurrectionists’ sympathizers and fellow-travelers. There is no way to unsee Officer Brian Sicknick, claimed by some Democrats in leadership and by most of the legacy media to have been killed by rioters at the Capitol that day, alive in at least one section of the newly released video. The USCP medical examiner states that this Officer died of “natural causes,” but also that he died “in the line of duty.” Whatever the truth of this confusing conclusion, and with all respect for and condolences to Officer Sicknick’s family, the circumstances of his death do matter to the public, as without his death having been caused by the events of Jan 6, the breach of the capitol, serious though it was, cannot be described as a “deadly insurrection.” [https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/medical-examiner-finds-uscp-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes] Sadly, though the contrary was what was reported, Officer Sicknick died two days after Jan 6, from suffering two strokes. https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-after-suffering-two-strokes-day-after-jan-6-report/ There is no way for anyone thoughtful, even if he or she is a lifelong Democrat, not to notice that Sen Chuck Schumer did not say to the world that the footage that Mr Carlson aired was not real. Rather, he warned that it was “shameful” for Fox to allow us to see it. The Guardian characterized Mr Carlson’s and Fox News’ sin, weirdly, as “Over-Use” of Jan 6 footage. Isn’t the press supposed to want full transparency for all public interest events? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/mar/07/biden-medicare-taxes-desantis-trump-2024-live-updates] How can you “over-use” real footage of events of national relevance? Sen Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Senate minority leader, did not say the video on Fox News was fake or doctored. He said, rather, that it was “a mistake” to depart from the views of the events held by the chief of the Capitol Police. This is a statement from McConnell about orthodoxy — not a statement about a specific truth or untruth. [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5060662/senator-mcconnell-calls-tucker-carlsons-depiction-january-6-attack-mistake] I don’t agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos as depicting “mostly peaceful chaos.”[https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3887103-tucker-carlson-shows-the-first-of-his-jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/] I do think it is a mistake to downplay how serious it is when a legislative institution suffers a security breach of any kind, however that came to be. But you don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to believe, as I do, that he engaged in valuable journalism simply by airing the footage that was given to him. And remember, by law that footage belongs to us — it is a public record, and all public records literally belong to the American people. “In a democracy, records belong to the people,” explains the National Archives. [https://www.archives.gov/publications/general-info-leaflets/1-about-archives.html] You don’t have to agree with Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to notice the latest hypocrisy by the Left. My acquaintance and personal hero Daniel Ellsberg was rightly lionized by the Left for having illegally leaked the Pentagon Papers. The New York Times was rightly applauded for having run this leaked material in 1971. [https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1435/daniel-ellsberg]. I do not see how Mr Carlson’s airing of video material of national significance that the current government would prefer to keep hidden, or Fox News’ support for its disclosure to the public, is any different from that famous case of disclosure of inside information of public importance. You don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to conclude that the Democrats in leadership, for their own part, have cherry-picked, hyped, spun, and in some ways appear to have lied about, aspects of January 6, turning a tragedy for the nation into a politicized talking point aimed at discrediting half of our electorate... https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email @SeaShells21 @DBP66 @TheMaximumHornetSting @Horsefly @World Citizen and the rest of you brainwashed lefty sheep The above, is only about half of Dr. Naomi Wolf''s article, but unlike DBP66, I won't post the entire thing. But, feel free to follow the link and read the entire article if you so chose. Whether or not the events that took place that day can be identified as an insurrection are subjective. One point that I see no point in anyone disputing, is the fact that they had no business being there in the first place. The former President, Donald J. Trump led them to the Capitol to prevent congress from counting the electoral votes and protest the results of an election that has continually been described, by both Democratic and Republican parties, as fraud free and fair. As of January 6th of this year, at least 950+ people have been charged with federal crimes. Okay, that definitely convinces me this whole event was peaceful. Great job 👏🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Whether or not the events that took place that day can be identified as an insurrection are subjective. ↳↳ Really? How are you using the words "insurrection" and "subjective"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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