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OT: Jon Jones fail drug test (AGAIN)


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9 hours ago, 954gator said:

Seriously?  So now they find out he failed the drug test?  Sounds like bullshit to me.   Dana White hates Jones.   

Weird take from you.  PEDs don't magically show up in piss tests.  Jones is a cheater and has been for a very long time.  End of story.  This guy has obvious addiction issues whether we are talking about PEDs or recreational drugs.  If he doesn't get help soon you will be reading about him  dead alone in a hotel somewhere with a spike in his arm.  His head is not on straight and he has been fucking up his life for a while now.

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10 minutes ago, NYHSFAN33 said:

Weird take from you.  PEDs don't magically show up in piss tests.  Jones is a cheater and has been for a very long time.  End of story.  This guy has obvious addiction issues whether we are talking about PEDs or recreational drugs.  If he doesn't get help soon you will be reading about him  dead alone in a hotel somewhere with a spike in his arm.  His head is not on straight and he has been fucking up his life for a while now.

What I don't get is why these positive results come in after the fights.   Don't they test before the matches?   Just seems odd they find results always after the fact.  If he's a steroid user I agree that his title should be stripped. 

If I'm DC I'm more pissed at UFC for not discovering this shit beforehand.

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14 minutes ago, 954gator said:

What I don't get is why these positive results come in after the fights.   Don't they test before the matches?   Just seems odd they find results always after the fact.  If he's a steroid user I agree that his title should be stripped. 

If I'm DC I'm more pissed at UFC for not discovering this shit beforehand.

I hear you - I don't understand the timeline - they do test beforehand and you would think they would wait for results before letting the fight take place.  Someone more in the know than myself would have to explain to both of us. 

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Don't they usually do split specimen testing? Also, if they are doing an in depth test, it can't be done in minutes. I'd imagine they are doing an immediate test that can't always show everything, but once the specimen is sent out for in depth testing, it can take days or weeks for results unless you own the lab and control what specimens are tested first. 

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9 hours ago, Ararar said:

This particular test was taken at the weigh in

Do they do any test before hand also to at least make sure they haven't been doing PEDs prior to the fight.  Like some type of screening?   I get that they want to take samples right before the fight too, but if they aren't doing something before that's a problem IMO.

 

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My thinking is this .... jon really did piss hot for boner pill first time. I believe that. 

But when he came back his first fight was with ovince st preaux and it was his worst performance against a guy he should of smoked. He was clean in that fight. 

Cormier was beating studs like rumble Johnson and gustaffason and got better closing the gap with jones first time they fought. 

Cormier even said after Jon fought ovince he would beat that Jon Jones. 

Jones knew he needed an edge for July Cormier fight and was told that turinabol is almost undetectable from my understanding .... it was used by the East Germans in the 1960s by their athletes  .... but the usada testing has gotten so good that he got caught. 

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Timing is weird  though... he was prob on turinabol months leading up to fight. He was tested many times before the fight but it didn't show up but does day before at weigh ins? 

To get the benefits from turinabol he would need to take it for months .... not just few days before the fight. 

 

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4 hours ago, Mjd33 said:

Timing is weird  though... he was prob on turinabol months leading up to fight. He was tested many times before the fight but it didn't show up but does day before at weigh ins? 

To get the benefits from turinabol he would need to take it for months .... not just few days before the fight. 

 

This is my thought too. i'd assume they do some sort of testing a month maybe a couple weeks out. For him to show up clean then the day of the fight he's positive?  Like using that stuff just a couple weeks before the fight?  I dunno man just seems sketch.  

His whole motto was there will be no excuses this fight...and then positive?  

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3 hours ago, Mjd33 said:

I remember this, but that was the story from a while back.  Maybe this is something he's always done.  Which would explain his freak strength.  But this is a big issue with the ufc.   The drug testing is too slack and inconsistent...if this is all true they should have nabbed him 5-6 years ago.  

 

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This does seem so strange to me. It just doesn't make sense....With the whole world and USADA watching your every move, and trying to salvage your reputation, it's so hard to imagine a fighter doing this....Jones makes it easier to believe.....but it still seems odd. Especially if he passed other tests before the weigh in, then failed right after, because there would be little to gain from doing it then....and everything to lose.

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