DarterBlue Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 All things considered, Jones has done reasonably well. If their defense had been able to stop St. John's a couple times they would have been in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: All things considered, Jones has done reasonably well. If their defense had been able to stop St. John's a couple times they would have been in the game. Haha that's funny. Hell, if they would of scored more points than them, they would have won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Haha that's funny. Hell, if they would of scored more points than them, they would have won The point I am making is this: Jones does not have a history of playing in big time games on the road. They also don't have a coaching staff that is used to these types of high stakes games. The kids, at a minimum, showed that they could compete. With time, if they remain relevant in Florida, Jones will do just fine. Of course, this is a big if. Historically, Jones has not held on to much of the talent within its zone, which has chosen to go elsewhere (Edgewater, Lake Highland Prep, Boone, Oak Ridge, Dr. Phillips). The last two years, this trend has been reversed with Jones being a net beneficiary instead of a net loser of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Fan Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just left this game. Sorry I wasn't able to post any updates. It was pretty much like you would expect from the score. St. John's starters scored on 7 of 8 possessions, the new QB was very accurate and made some nice throws. Jones was never able to put pressure on him. #11 for St. John's made a highlight-reel TD catch in the third quarter, outjumping two Jones defenders. On the other side of the ball, it took Jones a while to get going, but they certainly had playmakers, racking up a bunch of yards after the catch. #8 had a spectacular play early in the second half, catching a short pass on 4th-and-12, somehow eluding three tacklers, tightroping down the sideline and beating another defender before scoring. The classic "QB runs around the backfield until someone gets open" play was pretty effective for them and they needed it, since he was under pressure a lot--#18 for St. John's must have had four or five sacks himself. Jones's first PAT attempt made it to the end zone on five bounces and they went for two every time afterwards, their kickoffs did get better as the game went on. Needless to say, St. John's defense needs to get better with the schedule they're facing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Fan Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Oh, and both teams but especially St. John's really hurt themselves with penalties--first play of the game the Cadets had a long touchdown run partially erased because of an unnecessary block in the back (they scored anyway). Then on Jones's first series they got called for unsportsmanlike conduct after getting a sack on third down, Jones ended up scoring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Nice summary MA Fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Is there a like limit still? Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine's sponge was discontinued. So she was deciding who was sponge worthy or not. Lol. Such a classic show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Pops said: of course, the years that DBP beat them they almost lost to amador Valley, Monte Vista, Serra, and Loyola, But they didn't lose. Dls can't lose in NorCal. Death, taxes, and nor cal sucks besides dls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 13 hours ago, Mjd33 said: But they didn't lose. Dls can't lose in NorCal. Death, taxes, and nor cal sucks besides dls. My point my was those teams were just like '16 I like DBP but don't think you beat even an average DLS team -- DBP just like east in making their bones off a down DLS team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 0:34 PM, Pops said: You think? They're ranked higher in several polls so I'd hope so Just heads up DLS ranked 10th in USA super 25 poll. I'm sure you think that ranking is justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Mjd33 said: Just heads up DLS ranked 10th in USA super 25 poll. I'm sure you think that ranking is justified. I think we'll have a real good idea in a few weeks -- this team not just better than last year but better than either of the DLS teams DBP beat wouldnt be shocked if they start 2-2 either -- playing excellent teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pops said: I think we'll have a real good idea in a few weeks -- this team not just better than last year but better than either of the DLS teams DBP beat wouldnt be shocked if they start 2-2 either -- playing excellent teams Well dls already 1-0 francis is a gimme so that's 2 wins sjc pick em game 50% chance to win at BG substantial underdog 15% chance to win 3-1 most likely scenario .... 2-2 at worst. 4-0 about 5-10% chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Well dls already 1-0 francis is a gimme so that's 2 wins sjc pick em game 50% chance to win at BG substantial underdog 15% chance to win 3-1 most likely scenario .... 2-2 at worst. 4-0 about 5-10% chance Mostly agree but I feel differently about DLS and BG game than you do btw, DLS unleashed an aerial attack with 3 rotating QBs -- am certain that was enabled by amador valley as opponent but nice that there was some practice before unleashing the veer. Sjc and BG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pops said: but I feel differently about DLS and BG game than you do What chance you give them in Vegas? They looked awfully impressive the other night .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pops said: btw, DLS unleashed an aerial attack Like you said against amador valley .... dls can do whatever they want against teams like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Mjd33 said: What chance you give them in Vegas? They looked awfully impressive the other night .... At least twice as good as you -- they'll be underdogs, but not 6 or 7 to 1 IMHO FwIW, don't think St Francis is a gimmee either -- they're a leading WCAL contender and enjoy a trap position after SJC before DLS heads to LV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Mjd33 said: Like you said against amador valley .... dls can do whatever they want against teams like that. Not last year -- they couldn't pass against tackling dummies they just need to do it well enough to keep you honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Pops said: FwIW, don't think St Francis is a gimmee either -- they're a leading WCAL contender and enjoy a trap position Dude .... stop. lol it will be a blowout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Pops said: 4 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: At least twice as good as you -- they'll be underdogs, but not 6 or 7 to 1 IMHO So if they played 3 times dls wins once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Dude .... stop. lol it will be a blowout Ok possibly the best team from a league, WCAL, that has given DLS's best team fits has zero chance against DLS in between playing A national top 25 and top 3 team better? remenber the 2 teams DLS beat? They played Serra both years and Serra was not top tier in wcal either year -- results: '08, DLS won 29-28, after successfully going for 2 and win after final TD; '09, DLS trailed 7-0 at halftime before winning 14-7 the week before flying to NJ. Those 2 Serra teams were 12-10-2 over those 2 years i know those weren't even average DLS teams, but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: So if they played 3 times dls wins once? That's what I'm saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, Pops said: I think we'll have a real good idea in a few weeks -- this team not just better than last year but better than either of the DLS teams DBP beat wouldnt be shocked if they start 2-2 either -- playing excellent teams And you know that from DLS beating Amador Valley 42-7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, Pops said: At least twice as good as you -- they'll be underdogs, but not 6 or 7 to 1 IMHO FwIW, don't think St Francis is a gimmee either -- they're a leading WCAL contender and enjoy a trap position after SJC before DLS heads to LV If St. Francis isnt a gimme... DLS isnt a Top 100 squad. 280+ games say that St. Francis is a gimme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pops said: That's what I'm saying I don't think dls is necessarily better than dematha let alone BG. 1 in 5 is about right. Dls will need to win turnover margin by at least 2 to have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: I don't think dls is necessarily better than dematha let alone BG. 1 in 5 is about right. Dls will need to win turnover margin by at least 2 to have a chance. Well 15% is about 1 in 6.5 so I've got you moving smells about like a 9:2 bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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