181pl Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Are they all down at once? I've never been a fan of private schools just loading up on talent, but at least in NJ you knew most of the state's talent was concentrated in a handful of teams that at least all played each other and always had the nads to go out of state and show pretty well. Seems like they are WAY down by their standards. Bosco, Bergen, SJR, SPP, Paramus, all have losses (some of them pretty bad) and we're not even 1/2 way through the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, 181pl said: Are they all down at once? I've never been a fan of private schools just loading up on talent, but at least in NJ you knew most of the state's talent was concentrated in a handful of teams that at least all played each other and always had the nads to go out of state and show pretty well. Seems like they are WAY down by their standards. Bosco, Bergen, SJR, SPP, Paramus, all have losses (some of them pretty bad) and we're not even 1/2 way through the season? too much parity has taken it all down. When all of the talent was at 1 or 2 teams you had a nice showing OOS and nationally. Now with 6 teams and talent going everywhere teams are not as complete. You can also argue different leadership philosophies have hurt different schools which has been stated on this board several times. SPP is still doing fine. They are probably near the top if not the top in terms of talent this year for NJ. They have 3 ND commits on defense. Also NJ OOS competition has been very good. DBP combined opp record is 8-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Please STOP using that parity word. Such a Cop Out. They are just not good because they are slacking off. They draw from a population of 15 million people. The football kids are still there, but alot are not playing football anymore for a variety of reasons. Starting with The youth programs are no developing kids as well as the youth programs in other areas. The football talent level in North NJ is not as good or deep as in other areas of the country 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 56 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Also NJ OOS competition has been very good. DBP combined opp record is 8-3 If Alabama was 8-3, would you consider that "very good"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Please STOP using that parity word. Such a Cop Out. They are just not good because they are slacking off. They draw from a population of 15 million people. The football kids are still there, but alot are not playing football anymore for a variety of reasons. Starting with The youth programs are no developing kids as well as the youth programs in other areas. The football talent level in North NJ is not as good or deep as in other areas of the country Its not a cop out. its the absolute truth. When DBP was going around beating the likes of Manatee DLS STA etc they had the talent and everyone else basically bowed down in front of them. After Peppers left DBP and took the talent to PC PC emerged and the rest is history. BC was a load of talent in the 90s and early 200s. Then DBP took over. Now you have a few kids on each team. Also yes your right in the fact that the demographics are certainly changing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, maxchoboian said: If Alabama was 8-3, would you consider that "very good"? In the words of Nick Saban when he lost the national championship game that season is a failure but hey thats nick saban. 5 games over 500 is very good at the HS level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Its not a cop out. its the absolute truth. When DBP was going around beating the likes of Manatee DLS STA etc they had the talent and everyone else basically bowed down in front of them. After Peppers left DBP and took the talent to PC PC emerged and the rest is history. BC was a load of talent in the 90s and early 200s. Then DBP took over. Now you have a few kids on each team. Also yes your right in the fact that the demographics are certainly changing Sorry..It's a cop out. I would submit you could put togethe an all star team of players from the BNU and they still would not be Tier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Sorry..It's a copy out. I would submit you could put togethe an all star team of players from the BNU and they still would not be Tier 1 When DBP was doing their thing yea they were a Tier 1 team. NJ will never be the same as it once was. thats the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, HSFBfan said: When DBP was doing their thing yea they were a Tier 1 team. NJ will never be the same as it once was. thats the truth. Possibly, but the reason is not PARITY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Possibly, but the reason is not PARITY Ok whatever you believe Sammy. As teams like DBP and such are on the decline imo teams like SPP are going to get better. Kids wont have to leave the SPP area to go to DBP and such. They should stay there. I expect SPP to get better and better over the next couple of years. Like i said some have suggested philosophical changes at the top of the schools. I dont personally know the answer. I just dont believe NJ will be what it was only a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 The Giants havent scored 20 points in each of their last 8 games... Time for Carson to go... tired of seeing Giants right now. It's all about Delmarva... Dematha, SJC, SFA and eventually Bishop Sullivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's a down year certaintly but spp and sjr are still very solid teams imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ten kids that would have normally went to Bosco that are now going to other schools is not a reason to claim parity. Bosco is losing those kids because of reasons about Bosco. I've seen it happen to schools in my area. Amat, Loyola, St. Paul, Los Alamitos, even Poly. I don't hear anyone from Poly saying the reason they dropped off the past few years was because of Parity. It was because they made a coaching change which affected the dynamics of kids going else where (SJB, Narbonne etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Ten kids that would have normally went to Bosco that are now going to other schools is not a reason to claim parity. Bosco is losing those kids because of reasons about Bosco. I've seen it happen to schools in my area. Amat, Loyola, St. Paul, Los Alamitos, even Poly. I don't hear anyone from Poly saying the reason they dropped off the past few years was because of Parity. It was because they made a coaching change which affected the dynamics of kids going else where (SJB, Narbonne etc) Bosco was declining tho under Toal so it wasnt like now because of teel DBP is going from 10-1 11-0 to multiple losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Please STOP using that parity word. Such a Cop Out. They are just not good because they are slacking off. They draw from a population of 15 million people. The football kids are still there, but alot are not playing football anymore for a variety of reasons. Starting with The youth programs are no developing kids as well as the youth programs in other areas. The football talent level in North NJ is not as good or deep as in other areas of the country Do 15 million kids play football? Of course not. The bottom line is you are a year behind me sammy. I said last year was a down year in NJ and this year is really down so far. I also told you in the spring that there was no way BC should be ranked anywhere near the top 10 let alone the top 25. With that said I think you are slowly getting into having maybe one or 2 good teams in NJ and the rest mediocre to decent. Parity usually means not that good. The OOS record really shows it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Also the real NJ posters said it last week that DBP and BC were gonna lose and i stated several time it could be close to a 40 pt game when BC played MD. There was absolutely no surprise there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Bosco was declining tho under Toal so it wasnt like now because of teel DBP is going from 10-1 11-0 to multiple losses. Teel certainly hasn't shown much so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, aZjimbo said: Teel certainly hasn't shown much so far. no but the only game he should have won that he dropped was Byrnes. Everyone knew there was no chance against SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Would not look good for BC to compete. 2013 Georgia all over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Would not look good for BC to compete. 2013 Georgia all over compete against who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Drummer61 said: Rather, just maybe NJ cycle of success has ended.. Certainly, Calf was an overrated debacle for years,but now appears to have some very good teams..Many relish in NJ football downfall, but really, not that big of a deal..Why major in minor things and when Bosco was on top it was great.. For now it's SJB, MD, IMG, SFA and a couple others.. Not that big of a deal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: Not really,read the last sentence... Its a big deal if your a fan of the school right? I was at the DBP vs STA game. The stands were 3/4 to 1/2 empty. I understand that SFA brought a handful of people but expected more of a turnout for DBP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Drummer61 said: Heuser led the call for no shows.. LMAOOO. There was a few GT chants i heard in the stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: no but the only game he should have won that he dropped was Byrnes. Everyone knew there was no chance against SFA Hard to imagine saying Bosco has no chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, aZjimbo said: Hard to imagine saying Bosco has no chance of winning. they didnt. they had no shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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