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[SOCIntellectualProperty]

Lost in all of the hurt feelings over blacks daring to show their discontent with cowardly, trigger happy cops are both the victims and the piece of shit cops themselves 

 

 

i think it's unfair that you could kill 12 years olds... harass pre-teenage children in front of their parents, then assault the parents for complaining ... kill sleeping 7 year olds and lie about it...shoot people in the back on camera ... and not only do you get to go home with more money, but you also get no blame  for actions that has the NFL eating shit from both sides 

The NFL is in troublE and this didn't start with Kaepernick.... it started when this sorry ass generation of cops made their personal feelings and fears more important than the job

[concha]

30 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

Lost in all of the hurt feelings over blacks daring to show their discontent with cowardly, trigger happy cops are both the victims and the piece of shit cops themselves 

 

 

i think it's unfair that you could kill 12 years olds... harass pre-teenage children in front of their parents, then assault the parents for complaining ... kill sleeping 7 year olds and lie about it...shoot people in the back on camera ... and not only do you get to go home with more money, but you also get no blame  for actions that has the NFL eating shit from both sides 

The NFL is in troublE and this didn't start with Kaepernick.... it started when this sorry ass generation of cops made their personal feelings and fears more important than the job

 

State and local law enforcement agencies in this country employ over 750,000 sworn personnel (those with arrest powers).

But you would judge all by the actions of a small group?

We live in a nation of ~325 million.  Bad acts are going to happen. Mistakes will happen. Justified acts like in Ferguson will happen that are used politically.

Care to guess what happens to murder rates in places like Chicago and Baltimore when the cops back off?

 

Dig deep, pull, and yank your head out of your ass.

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[SOCIntellectualProperty]

2 hours ago, concha said:

 

 

But you would judge all by the actions of a small group?

 

Of course it would be you and your expressed limited ability to comprehend

 

This is societal... NOT  small group

 

These men escape condemnation and conviction, especially by trailer trash like yourself. You've never opened your trap to speak on one murderous thug officer. You, the already outed fake economist, like other fake educated online trash, have  always dismissed and made excuses for these cowards. These murdering cops get thousands of taxpayers dollars and donations.

 

They are your heroes...

stop pretending anything else is reality chump

[concha]

3 hours ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

 

This is societal... NOT  small group

 

These men escape condemnation and conviction, especially by trailer trash like you. You've never opened your trap to speak on one murderous thug officer. You, the already outed fake economist, like other fake educated online trash, have  always dismissed and made excuses for these cowards. These murdering cops get thousands of taxpayers dollars and donations.

 

They are you heroes...

stop pretending anything else is reality chump

 

There's the shit you type, and then there's reality.

How many unjustified killings are committed by cops in a given year? Since there are over 750,000 sworn state and local law enforcement officials in the nation, the blood must be running in the streets given your bullshit, ignorant-ass opinion.  

How many black-on-black murders just in the city of Chicago?  10 people have been killed by cops so far this year in Chicago (race of victims unclear). Oh, and the CPD has ~12,000 officers. Even if you ASSume that all were blacks and all were unjustifiable (like a good BLM sheep), that compares to over 400 black murder victims, who are statistically overwhelmingly the victims of other blacks.

10 unjustified police killings at most (and likely far less) vs over 400.

10 (at most, it could be zero) from a force of 12,000.

 

Conclusion:  You are an ignorant fool.

 

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[Blueliner]

4 hours ago, concha said:

 

There's the shit you type, and then there's reality.

How many unjustified killings are committed by cops in a given year? Since there are over 750,000 sworn state and local law enforcement officials in the nation, the blood must be running in the streets given your bullshit, ignorant-ass opinion.  

How many black-on-black murders just in the city of Chicago?  10 people have been killed by cops so far this year in Chicago (race of victims unclear). Oh, and the CPD has ~12,000 officers. Even if you ASSume that all were blacks and all were unjustifiable (like a good BLM sheep), that compares to over 400 black murder victims, who are statistically overwhelmingly the victims of other blacks.

10 unjustified police killings at most (and likely far less) vs over 400.

10 (at most, it could be zero) from a force of 12,000.

 

Conclusion:  You are an ignorant fool.

 

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This pretty much sums it up. Some people will always insist on playing the ignorant victim.

[SOCIntellectualProperty]

4 hours ago, concha said:

 

There's the shit you type, and then there's reality.

How many unjustified killings are committed by cops in a given year? Since there are over 750,000 sworn state and local law enforcement officials in the nation, the blood must be running in the streets given your bullshit, ignorant-ass opinion.  

How many black-on-black murders just in the city of Chicago?  10 people have been killed by cops so far this year in Chicago (race of victims unclear). Oh, and the CPD has ~12,000 officers. Even if you ASSume that all were blacks and all were unjustifiable (like a good BLM sheep), that compares to over 400 black murder victims, who are statistically overwhelmingly the victims of other blacks.

10 unjustified police killings at most (and likely far less) vs over 400.

10 (at most, it could be zero) from a force of 12,000.

 

Conclusion:  You are an ignorant fool.

 

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There are rallies for the violence in Chicago...as well as demonstrations ... The Chicago Tribune lists them for you... feel free to attend. As for me, I live in Dallas... where violence is historically low.
 

 

 

NOW with your sincerest concerns for children of Chicago out of the way,  can we discuss the Cops that murder the innocent civilians they're paid to protect and a system that sets those idiots free? Or the fact that unarmed blacks are 6 times more likely to be killed by cops as unarmed whites?

Or will you keep your stupid  head up your ass and keep repeating shit someone has told you.... that you clearly dont understand yourself

 

Gosh you Trumptards will forever be idiots

[concha]

10 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

There are rallies for the violence in Chicago...as well as demonstrations ... The Chicago Tribune lists them for you... feel free to attend. As for me, I live in Dallas... where violence is historically low.

NOW with your sincerest concerns for children of Chicago out of the way,  can we discuss the Cops that murder the innocent civilians they're paid to protect and a system that sets those idiots free? Or the fact that unarmed blacks are 6 times more likely to be killed by cops as unarmed whites?

Or will you keep your stupid  head up your ass and keep repeating shit someone has told you.... that you clearly dont understand yourself

Gosh you Trumptards will forever be idiots

Rallies. AND demonstrations too! Well, that's super. How are those working out?

And violence is low in Dallas up until when you are a cop protecting a BLM demonstration.

 

Might the disparity in shootings of unarmed men by police be due to the disparity in the likelihood of involvement in violent crime?  Should we consider the fact that a cop is 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black man than he is to kill an unarmed black man?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler#

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But Mac Donald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

Mac Donald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life."

 

 

[concha]

34 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

This pretty much sums it up. Some people will always insist on playing the ignorant victim.

The number of blacks killed by cops is a fart in a hurricane compared to black-on-black murder.  Even justified shootings are protested and spark riots. It's ridiculous.

What gets the overwhelming amount of outrage and political attention?  A relatively small number of potentially unjustified shootings which are made - in a colossally dishonest fashion - to sound like "it's open season on black men".

I showed the stats for Chicago. Killings by police (whether justified or not) are less than 1/40th of black-on-black killing. And that assumes all the people killed by cops were black.

Black Lives Matter?  Apparently not to other blacks it appears. They shit on the police who try to keep black neighborhoods safer, and then cry racism again once the cops lay off and crime rates predictably increase. 

[TheRealCAJ]

5 hours ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

Of course it would be you and your expressed limited ability to comprehend

 

 

If you take the exact opposite position of concha "you/people" would be more in tune with reality and the true pulse of the nation EVERY TIME.....

No one gives a shit about over "750,000" sworn state and local law enforcement officials in the nation.....that's just SOME number people like concha throw out there to cover up a problem which grows daily in most every large metropolitan area in America. Of course ,the sworn state and local law enforcement officials in Buttfuck, Montana have N0 problems..

Blacks killing Blacks in Chicago "trumps life" in concha's world. Whatever comes up in life use it, right concha?

You are such an ignorant clown it's NOT even worth it.

 

 

 

[Horsefly]

 in addition to the disproportionate level of cop killings of blacks there is also the imbalance of sentencing and incarceration rates bw blacks and others as it relates to the war on drugs and mass incarcerations and the more liberal approach and non criminalization of white communities impacted from Opiod users.  All of these are injustices that are being protested.  As an example blacks are incarcerated almost 4 times the rate as whites for marijuana Useage, even though both groups liberally use the drug.

michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow, does an excellent job highlighting these differences. Some on this site should read it

[concha]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

 in addition to the disproportionate level of cop killings of blacks there is also the imbalance of sentencing and incarceration rates bw blacks and others as it relates to the war on drugs and mass incarcerations and the more liberal approach and non criminalization of white communities impacted from Opiod users.  All of these are injustices that are being protested.  As an example blacks are incarcerated almost 4 times the rate as whites for marijuana Useage, even though both groups liberally use the drug.

michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow, does an excellent job highlighting these differences. Some on this site should read it

I had the conversation with DevilDog about the issue of incarceration rates. I agreed with him and I'll agree with you.

Here's the thing:  Cops don't sentence people.

I know cops and in general I will defend them strongly. But I also want dirty cops gone.  When asshats make blanket statements accusing police of basically hunting black people, I'll call them on their fucking bullshit.

[TheRealCAJ]

22 minutes ago, concha said:

 

Here's the thing:  Cops don't sentence people.

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Maybe if there were less arrests there would be less sentencing....

What Cop is NOT going to make their case after an arrest?

Sheesh.....

[Horsefly]

1 hour ago, concha said:

I had the conversation with DevilDog about the issue of incarceration rates. I agreed with him and I'll agree with you.

Here's the thing:  Cops don't sentence people.

I know cops and in general I will defend them strongly. But I also want dirty cops gone.  When asshats make blanket statements accusing police of basically hunting black people, I'll call them on their fucking bullshit.

In some jurisdictions there have been allegations made of police monthly quotas and who do you think becomes the most vulnerable in meeting these standards?  Lower income blacks as they are less likely to have legal representation.  

Look at the documentary film about kalief browder from NY who was arrested at 16 for allegedly stealing a backpack and was inprisoned at Rikers for THREE YEARS without a trial and spent most of that time in solitary.  It was a case of a botched judicial system from bad, corrupt cops to immoral judges.  There are lots of cases like his.  

Cops in Baltimore allegedly caught on video planting evidence, wanna bet the races of the victims?

Not every cop is bad, I've met several good ones, but from a perspective that has seen a disproportionate number of blacks targeted, from cops that upheld and enforced jim crow laws in the 60s to a current situation that sees an imbalance in enforcement it's easy to conclude change needs to be made.  Protesters aren't asking for BETTER protection above any other citizen. 

[concha]

13 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

In a lot of jurisdictions cops have monthly quotas and who do you think becomes the most vulnerable in meeting these standards?  Lower income blacks as they are less likely to have legal representation.  Look at the documentary film about kalief browder from NY who was arrested at 16 for allegedly stealing a backpack and was inprisoned at Rikers for THREE YEARS without a trial and spent most of that time in solitary.  There are lots of cases like his.  

Cops in Baltimore allegedly caught on video planting evidence, wanna bet the races of the victims?

Not every cop is bad, I've met several good ones, but from a perspective that has seen a disproportionate number of blacks targeted, from cops that upheld and enforced jim crow laws in the 60s to a current situation that sees an imbalance in enforcement it's easy to conclude change needs to be made.  Protesters aren't asking for BETTER protection above any other citizen. 

And aren't many of these places run by blacks pretty much from the mayor down? And if not, a mixture of overwhelmingly Democrat pols?

I agree that there are inequities requiring correction.  I simply point out that many claims are bullshit. I point to the OT as an example.

And also, let's be honest.  During eight years of a black president, things did not improve. In fact they got worse. Left-wing identity politics has been a poison. Then a Republican takes the WH and guess what?  Magically, people are crawling out of the woodwork screaming bloody murder about every grievance - real or perceived or just plain invented - under the sun.

[Horsefly]

Just now, concha said:

 

I agree that there are inequities requiring correction.  

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IMO, this is what the protesters are trying to bring attention to.  These inequities have existed for too long.

[concha]

Just now, Horsefly said:

IMO, this is what the protesters are trying to bring attention to.  These inequities have existed for too long.

Frankly, it's a "Hillary lost and we hate Trump" stunt.

Cops are a clear target and the players and BLM are doing precious little to recognize and correct the issues in the black community itself - which is exactly what should be happening if they really want to save black lives. Political jazz hands.

And why this year? Pure coincidence?

[Horsefly]

4 minutes ago, concha said:

Frankly, it's a "Hillary lost and we hate Trump" stunt.

Cops are a clear target and the players and BLM are doing precious little to recognize and correct the issues in the black community itself - which is exactly what should be happening if they really want to save black lives. Political jazz hands.

And why this year? Pure coincidence?

Colin kaepernick does a lot in the black community, too bad that is ignored, but there is stuff out there highlighting his achievements.

he also started his protests back in Aug of 2016,when Obama was still President and long before Trump was declared the President elect.  Hard to see it as a partisan move.

 These grievances from the black community have existed for decades, this is absolutely nothing new.

[concha]

21 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Colin kaepernick does a lot in the black community, too bad that is ignored, but there is stuff out there highlighting his achievements.

he also started his protests back in Aug of 2016,when Obama was still President and long before Trump was declared the President elect.  Hard to see it as a partisan move.

 These grievances from the black community have existed for decades, this is absolutely nothing new.

You are of course correct about it starting last year. I stand corrected.

Indeed grievances have existed. I simply call bullshit on folks like SOC with blanket smears of the police.

[Horsefly]

40 minutes ago, concha said:

You are of course correct about it starting last year. I stand corrected.

Indeed grievances have existed. I simply call bullshit on folks like SOC with blanket smears of the police.

I understand your position on making generalizations.  They can be dangerous, but I'd love to see the good cops, take an aggressive and very public stand against the bad corrupt ones.  They need to let their voices be heard along with their actions they take daily.

[HawgGoneIt]

8 hours ago, Horsefly said:

I understand your position on making generalizations.  They can be dangerous, but I'd love to see the good cops, take an aggressive and very public stand against the bad corrupt ones.  They need to let their voices be heard along with their actions they take daily.

There has to be some policy changes toward police using deadly force on unarmed citizens of any age or color, except in extreme circumstances.

There also needs to be some level of changing done in how these cases are handled after they do occur. There is something inherently wrong with the system when the people being policed and the people doing the policing are not treated the same way. Maybe everyone can get on board with releasing ordinary citizens on their own recognizance after they shoot someone also. Seems like it would be a lot easier to go the other way with that and just arrest the officer that was involved in a questionable shooting, but either way would be fine I think. Just so long as we are seeing similar treatment, because every life is just as valuable as the other. 

[NorCalRuss]

17 hours ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

Lost in all of the hurt feelings over blacks daring to show their discontent with cowardly, trigger happy cops are both the victims and the piece of shit cops themselves 

 

 

i think it's unfair that you could kill 12 years olds... harass pre-teenage children in front of their parents, then assault the parents for complaining ... kill sleeping 7 year olds and lie about it...shoot people in the back on camera ... and not only do you get to go home with more money, but you also get no blame  for actions that has the NFL eating shit from both sides 

The NFL is in troublE and this didn't start with Kaepernick.... it started when this sorry ass generation of cops made their personal feelings and fears more important than the job

Thanks for your ghetto thug thoughts on the situation...

Now, go make your own bed...

[concha]

Wow.  It appears this is all about Colin. 

This asshat wants change but can't even get off his ass to vote.

But his bench-riding and now unemployed ass at least is getting plenty of attention.

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/figures-colin-kaepernick-never-even-registered-vote/

 

 

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The Sacramento Bee reported:

 

Kaepernick, who was raised in Turlock, turned 18 in 2005, but he has not registered to vote in California at any point in the last decade, according to records maintained by the California Secretary of State. He also did not register in Nevada while he attended the University of Nevada, Reno, from 2006 to 2010, according to the Washoe County Registrar of Voters.

That means he missed presidential elections in 2008 and 2012 – when Democrat Barack Obama was elected president – in addition to a variety of state and local elections in other years.

 

 

[SOCIntellectualProperty]

On 9/26/2017 at 4:10 PM, concha said:

Should we consider the fact that a cop is 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black man than he is to kill an unarmed black man?

 

See... this is shit I'm talking about.... where did you get this crop of bs? Seriously

 

I want to believe you're not here making shit up

 

Cops killed 97 unarmed black males in 2016.... 65 cops were killed in the line of duty in 2016(TOTAL,not just by black males)

 

HOW ANYONE convinces an ECONOMISTS that 65 is 18.5 TIMES the amount of 97 confuses the fuck out of this Oak Cliff Thug ...

 

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lets straighten out and agree on the FACTS before debating opinions 

 

edit* 

 

i know exactly where you got it from... it's time to admit those guys have no issue lying to you...

 

I'm almost ashamed that you even read such crap material... let alone post it as proof of anything

[concha]

16 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said:

See... this is shit I'm talking about.... where did you get this crop of bs? Seriously

 

I want to believe you're not here making shit up

 

Cops killed 97 unarmed black males in 2016.... 65 cops were killed in the line of duty in 2016(TOTAL,not just by black males)

 

HOW ANYONE convinces an ECONOMISTS that 65 is 18.5 TIMES the amount of 97 confuses the fuck out of this Oak Cliff Thug ...

 

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lets straighten out and agree on the FACTS before debating opinions 

Per Heather MacDonald, author of The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe:

"... the per capita rate of officers being feloniously killed is 45 times higher than the rate at which unarmed black males are killed by cops. And an officer’s chance of getting killed by a black assailant is 18.5 times higher than the chance of an unarmed black getting killed by a cop.

(The 36 unarmed black male victims of police shootings in 2015 measured against the total black male population [nearly 19 million in mid-2014, per the Census Bureau] amounts to a per capita rate of 0.0000018 unarmed fatalities by police. By comparison, 52 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in 2015 while engaged in such duties as traffic stops and warrant service, according to theNational Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. The FBI counted nearly 628,000 full-time law enforcement officers in the United States in 2014. Assuming that the number of officers did not markedly increase in 2015, the per capita rate of officers being feloniously killed is 0.000082, or 45 times the rate at which unarmed black males are killed by cops. The Memorial Fund does not have data on the race of cop-killers in 2015, but applying the historical average over the last decade in which 40 percent of all cop-killers were black would yield 21 cops killed by blacks in 2015. An officer’s chance of getting killed by a black person is 0.000033, which is 18.5 times the chance of an unarmed black person getting killed by a cop. After this year’s 72 percent increase in felonious killings of police officers, these ratios will be even more lopsided."

 

[concha]