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Michigan's trouble might be worse than first thought


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2 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said:

The NCAA hates Harbaugh for some reason.

No they don’t. This is pretty objective. A rule was broken. 
Regarding Harbaugh’s recent suspension, it was what it was due to Harbaugh’s decision not to cooperate with the NCAA on the investigation. Harbaugh made his own bed and has to sleep in it.

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Anyone who believes that this guy was going from game to game to game and recording signs, but then not sharing the info with the UM coaches, is either a moron, on drugs, or both.  So in this case, it’s both the crime AND lying to investigators.  For cheating to gain a competitive advantage, vacating wins for the past two years and a bowl ban is the only option.

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The most damning part of this report is the timing of the conduct compared to UM’s rise in performance.  Let’s remember that UM sucked and labored in mediocrity under Harbaugh for years and couldn’t win any big games, but their sudden resurgence started two seasons ago, including finally beating Ohio State, exactly coinciding with when this guy started going to their upcoming opponents” games and stealing signs.  Every one of UM’s wins for the last 2 1/2 years should be vacated.

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1 hour ago, reggid said:

The most damning part of this report is the timing of the conduct compared to UM’s rise in performance.  Let’s remember that UM sucked and labored in mediocrity under Harbaugh for years and couldn’t win any big games, but their sudden resurgence starting two seasons ago, including finally beating Ohio State, exactly coincides with when this guy started going to their upcoming opponents” games and stealing signs.  Every one of UM’s wins for the last 2 1/2 years should be vacated.

Plus he never filmed bowl opponents which Harbaugh never won.

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16 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said:

Plus he never filmed bowl opponents which Harbaugh never won.

And if he was just a “recruiting consultant,” as Harbaugh claims, then why are there numerous photos and videos of him on the sidelines talking to coaches during the game?

Usually, the most obvious explanation is the correct one — Jimmy was on the hot seat, and then they started this scheme in 2021, and voila, suddenly Michigan is dominant.   It’s a lot easier to play defense when you know what play is coming.  And it’s easier to check into the right play when you know what the defense is doing.  That’s called “cheating.”

The hilarious thing is that this clown — supposedly making only $55K a year — somehow was spending a fortune buying prime sideline seats near midfield, including sometimes buying isolated seats on BOTH sides if both teams were upcoming opponents, and buying them in his own name or his family’s name.  And his Venmo account is sketchy as hell.   Dollars to donuts says there were both UM staff and boosters involved.

Big 10 needs to vacate every UM win since 2021.  It’s the only fair and just outcome possible since fair competition was compromised.

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We’re now already seeing video of the Michigan sideline — players and coaches — staring at the opposing sideline and then reacting to offensive signals by Ohio State, and then immediately signaling the Michigan defense.

This was not figuring out your opponent’s signals during the game — this was advance scouting and stealing of signs.  The only question here is if knowing signs in advance gives you a competitive advantage— if yes, then it is cheating, and UM needs to be hammered.  Just like it’s a lot easier to hit a baseball when you know what pitch is coming, it’s a lot easier to play football when you know what play is coming.  Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, a moron, or both.

Michigan are cheating scum, and need be slammed for this.  

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More photos and video coming out:

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/the-big-ten/2023/10/142032/photos-and-videos-show-michigan-staffer-connor-stalions-on-the-sidelines-for-ohio-state-michigan-in-2022

Why would a “low level recruiting staffer” be standing next to the Head Coach, DC, and OC during the game?

The most damning part is that he is standing next to and interacting with the DC when the opponent is on offense. and then standing next to and interacting with the OC when the opponent is on defense.

All their wins since 2021 should be vacated, or better yet, forfeited.

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