TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 @Pops Gotta thank you for this Idea... It would be interesting for sure using current rankings. And tonights Performances. 1. Lowndes(Valdosta,Ga) 2. Cartersville(GA) 3. Archer 4. Grayson 5.Rome 6. Buford 7. Walton 8. Brookwood 9. Tift County 10. Colquitt County 11. North Gwinnett 12. Stockbridge 13. Peach HS 14. Eagles Landing Christian Academy 15. Cedar Grove 16. Benedictine Round 1: Benedictine @ Lowndes Cedar Grove @ Cartersville ELCA @ Archer Peach @ Grayson Stockbridge @ Rome North Gwinnett @ Buford Colquitt @ Walton Tift @ Brookwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Not gonna lie though pops... From an ethical stand point. There are some matchups that should be absolutely barred.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Like Benedictine @ Lowndes.... Why would you do that to The Cadets?.... Lowndes would probably drop 70 on Benedictine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Like Benedictine @ Lowndes.... Why would you do that to The Cadets?.... Lowndes would probably drop 70 on Benedictine... People don't understand the difference between the classifications of football in Georgia man. Their football teams are recruited up across various classifications so they get the weird anomalies where a tiny enrollment school may beat much bigger school, whereas in Georgia, that can be the case to an extent, but the large powerhouse publics here may well out-depth a much more talented small school team. The areas are so different that it's just unfathomable to these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, HawgGoneIt said: People don't understand the difference between the classifications of football in Georgia man. Their football teams are recruited up across various classifications so they get the weird anomalies where a tiny enrollment school may beat much bigger school, whereas in Georgia, that can be the case to an extent, but the large powerhouse publics here may well out-depth a much more talented small school team. The areas are so different that it's just unfathomable to these guys. Yea sorry @Pops @Eddyr2 D1 setup wouldn't work well out here.... Peach and ELCA.... Maybe they could hang.... But Benedictine is filled with 2 way players and is not adept enough to take on Lowndes... That Setup would be a nightmare out here.... It would be the 60s and 70s all over again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 It would work in Florida I'll write it up tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 would love to give you a playoff breakdown under the Ohio Harbin System, because I think you guys would love it, but it would take forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Yea sorry @Pops @Eddyr2 D1 setup wouldn't work well out here.... Peach and ELCA.... Maybe they could hang.... But Benedictine is filled with 2 way players and is not adept enough to take on Lowndes... That Setup would be a nightmare out here.... It would be the 60s and 70s all over again... It doesn't work here in CA either. Chaminade gave up 70 and 66 in playoff games in each of the last two years. That shouldn't happen in playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Walton should be Top 5, they are playing lights out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 58 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Yea sorry @Pops @Eddyr2 D1 setup wouldn't work well out here.... Peach and ELCA.... Maybe they could hang.... But Benedictine is filled with 2 way players and is not adept enough to take on Lowndes... That Setup would be a nightmare out here.... It would be the 60s and 70s all over again... You are applying it wrong.First off the SS D1 is changed every year based on a two year performance of teams.Only 18 teams are in D1.So you would take your 18 best over the last two years and form your playoff bracket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 If anyobodys got extra time, Can someone divide up GA 7a into 4 equal or close to equal geographic regions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ararar said: You are applying it wrong.First off the SS D1 is changed every year based on a two year performance of teams.Only 18 teams are in D1.So you would take your 18 best over the last two years and form your playoff bracket Thats even worse.... Teams change... Thats terrible... No wonder 2whls hates the format.... Thats stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Thats even worse.... Teams change... Thats terrible... No wonder 2whls hates the format.... Thats stupid... It changes so the best teams over the last two years will be in the same playoff bracket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 I can almost guarantee you that whoever wins SS Dll will be elevated to Dl next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ararar said: I can almost guarantee you that whoever wins SS Dll will be elevated to Dl next year Yep...they’ll St Paul’s spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Thats even worse.... Teams change... Thats terrible... No wonder 2whls hates the format.... Thats stupid... Why? That insure the best programs are always in D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Coletrain06 said: If anyobodys got extra time, Can someone divide up GA 7a into 4 equal or close to equal geographic regions.... Issue with that is all of 7A is in Atlanta.... except: Colquitt Lowndes Camden Tift. Those are your only South GA schools South Atlanta: Newnan Douglas County East Coweta Westlake Newnan Pebblebrook Wheeler West: Mceachern Marietta North Cobb North Paulding Walton Lassiter North: Roswell Milton Etowah Cherokee South Forsyth East: Archer Grayson Newton Mill Creek North Gwinnett Brookwood Meadowcreek Norcross South Gwinnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Ararar said: It changes so the best teams over the last two years will be in the same playoff bracket Yeah but what about the sad saga of Vista Murrieta? This year it will be Murrieta Valley? They and San Clemente played the D2 South final last year and now gotta move up. San Clemente struggled with San Juan Hills tonight. Both those teams really should get to stay in D2 where they would have a chance. Meanwhile Upland which is improved this year is dropping into D2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Issue with that is all of 7A is in Atlanta.... except: Colquitt Lowndes Camden Tift. Those are your only South GA schools South Atlanta: Newnan Douglas County East Coweta Westlake Newnan Pebblebrook West: Mceachern Marietta North Cobb North Paulding Walton Lassiter North: Roswell Milton Etowah Cherokee East: Archer Grayson Newton Mill Creek North Gwinnett Brookwood Meadowcreek How many total teams are in 7a? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, On2whls said: Yeah but what about the sad saga of Vista Murrieta? This year it will be Murrieta Valley? They and San Clemente played the D2 South final last year and now gotta move up. San Clemente struggled with San Juan Hills tonight. Both those teams really should get to stay in D2 where they would have a chance. Meanwhile Upland which is improved this year is dropping into D2. Better then having Long Beach Jordan lose by 60 in the first round every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Coletrain06 said: How many total teams are in 7a? 44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 If the first couple rounds of your playoff bracket has running clock blowouts, then the system just isn't that good. Maybe CIF should cut the D1 south bracket to 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, On2whls said: If the first couple rounds of your playoff bracket has running clock blowouts, then the system just isn't that good. Maybe CIF should cut the D1 south bracket to 8. And add a bye week before the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ararar said: You are applying it wrong.First off the SS D1 is changed every year based on a two year performance of teams.Only 18 teams are in D1.So you would take your 18 best over the last two years and form your playoff bracket It's also being applied incorrectly in the sense that CIF-SS doesn't do full 16 seeds for the bracket. They only determine the top 4 seeds then fill in the bracket using the following guidelines from the football handbook: Quote The initial step is to designate four teams (maximum) as seeds, with No. 1 and No. 4 placed in the top bracket and No. 2 and No. 3 in the bottom bracket. An exception to this procedure would be if seeds in the same half of the bracket are from the same league. Is it possible to designate more than four seeds? The task would be virtually impossible on two counts. Attempting to delineate which team is the No. 7 seed, as opposed to No. 8 or No. 12 rather than No. 13 would result in 25 different answers by 25 different people. Additionally, an attempt at a true seed would be in opposition to the CIF-SS Constitution and By-Laws, which specify a league’s designated No. 1 entry, shall meet a No. 3 entry and a No. 2 shall meet another No. 2 where the draw provides for same in the opening round. The next stop is to fill the bracket draw and a simple guideline provides the ground rules for same. Assuming for the moment the top four seeds are all No. 1 teams, the procedure calls for the No. 2 teams from each of these leagues to be placed in the opposite half of the bracket. Consider there are five leagues assigned to this particular bracket, it now becomes necessary to place the only league not represented thus far, League D. The No. 1 designee is placed in either half of the bracket, with League D #2 in the opposite half. The final step is to place the No. 3 teams from each of the respective leagues in the open slots, attempting to place each in one of the remaining A quarters of the bracket where the league is not represented. This process eliminates the aspect of schools from the same league meeting in the second round of competition. An exception to this procedure occurs where geography does not permit wide placement. The Office then follows the directive of the CIF Southern Section Council from its meeting on March 13, 1980, which directs schools be placed in the same half and if necessary, quarter of the bracket to curtail excessive travel. Another factor utilized by the Office when formulating initial pairings is to review the playoff bracket for the previous years in an effort not to match identical teams which may have been paired the previous year or two years back. This would not preclude two leagues being matched in consecutive years, but with two different representative schools. FWIW, using the above info, this is my current projection for the CIF-SS D1 bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Eddyr2 said: And add a bye week before the playoffs? Do the same up North. The situation there isn't much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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