whiteshoes Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 With the 2025 season opening this weekend (Hawaii), thought I would throw this out there. 1. Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman 2. Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei 3. Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy 4. Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco 5. DeSoto (TX) 6. Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna 7. Duncanville (TX) 8. Corona (CA) Centennial 9. Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas 10. Milton (GA) 11. Houston (TX) North Shore 12. Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep 13. Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic 14. Massillon (OH) Washington 15. Peoria (AZ) Liberty 16. Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel 17. Plantation (FL) American Heritage 18. Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy 19. Lakewood (OH) St. Edward 20. Miami (FL) Central 21. Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha 22. Buford (GA) 23. Phenix City (AL) Central 24. Draper (UT) Corner Canyon 25. Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon 26. Cocoa (FL) 27. Austin (TX) Westlake 28. Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban 29. Alabaster (AL) Thompson 30. Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County 31. Mission Viejo (CA) 32. Belleville (MI) 33. Orange (CA) Lutheran 34. Carrollton (GA) 35. Kahuku (HI) 36. Tampa (FL) Berkley Prep 37. Folsom (CA) 38. Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy 39. Southlake (TX) Carroll 40. Hochston (GA) Mill Creek 41. Miami (FL) Norland 42. Humble (TX) Atascocita 43. Peoria (AZ) Centennial 44. Greenwood (IN) Center Grove 45. Lehi (UT) Skybridge 46. Houston (TX) Summer Creek 47. Liberty (MO) North 48. Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel 49. Loganville (GA) Grayson 50. Bixby (OK) 51. Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter 52. Miami (FL) Columbus 53. Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis 54. Concord (CA) De LaSalle 55. Marietta (GA) Walton 56. Lakeland (FL) 57. San Mateo (CA) Serra 58. Katy (TX) 59. Bryant (AR) 60. Charlotte (NC) Providence Day 61. Saraland (AL) 62. Toledo (OH) Central Catholic 63. Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson 64. Mililani (HI) 65. Aledo (TX) 66. Chattanooga (TN) McCallie 67. Ruston (LA) 68. Longview (TX) 69. American Fork (UT) 70. Washington (DC) St. Johns 71. Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central 72. Chandler (AZ) 73. Brownsburg (IN) 74. Louisville (KY) Trinity 75. Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding 76. Denton (TX) Guyer 77. Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville 78. San Diego (CA) Lincoln 79. Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff 80. Kingsland (GA) Camden County 81. Littleton (CO) Columbine 82. Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita 83. Cibolo (TX) Steele 84. Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller 85. East St. Louis (IL) 86. Venice (FL) 87. Dripping Springs (TX) 88. Danville (KY) Boyle County 89. Chattanooga (TN) Baylor 90. Greensboro (NC) Grimsley 91. Woodbridge (VA) Freedom 92. Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More 93. Louisville (MS) 94. Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee 95. Anaheim (CA) Servite 96. Sanford (FL) Seminole 97. Vestavia Hills (AL) 98. Rome (GA) 99. Daytona Beach (FL) Mainland 100. Bentonville (AR) 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Fan Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 14 hours ago, whiteshoes said: 91. Woodbridge (VA) Freedom Their coaching staff left for Hayfield and most of their underclass players followed them. Some controversies still to be worked out there but Freedom's run is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 I realize it's preseason...so it's pretty much dart-throwing time. It's gonna take about (4) games before we know if Colquitt is Top 50. Game 3 and Game 4 (North Gwinnett and Lee County) will tell us all we need to know. So for now.... GO YOU HAIRY HAWGS !!!!!! Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted August 7 Author Report Share Posted August 7 5 hours ago, MA Fan said: Their coaching staff left for Hayfield and most of their underclass players followed them. Some controversies still to be worked out there but Freedom's run is over. Thanks for info. Probably regretting setting up the DeMatha game now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 The best thing about Chandler this season is their schedule; they're going to look like a juggernaut the first four games of the season but are going to be extremely fortunate to finish with fewer than three losses on the year. I've been saying that Chandler has been living off of momentum since 2022 and that is starting to run out; they've gone from a state championship in 2020 to a runner-up finish in 2021 to a second round exit the next year to a first round exit last season. During a very active transfer season they got but a small trickle, and the existing pieces are not bad but less than what's present at Basha (the current daddy of the Chandler district). Centennial has a top 100 roster but aren't going to have access to that until game 5; if they get through those first five games no worse than 3-2 (unlike Chandler they don't open the season with a series of glorified Pop Warner squads) they should be nasty come the backstretch (FWIW I'm not ruling out 5-0 and think 4-1 is very likely, just recognizing that they put together about as ambitious a non-region slate they could without leaving Arizona). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 On 8/6/2024 at 8:31 AM, whiteshoes said: With the 2025 season opening this weekend (Hawaii), thought I would throw this out there. 1. Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman 2. Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei 3. Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy 4. Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco 5. DeSoto (TX) 6. Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna 7. Duncanville (TX) 8. Corona (CA) Centennial 9. Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas 10. Milton (GA) 11. Houston (TX) North Shore 12. Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep 13. Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic 14. Massillon (OH) Washington 15. Peoria (AZ) Liberty 16. Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel 17. Plantation (FL) American Heritage 18. Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy 19. Lakewood (OH) St. Edward 20. Miami (FL) Central 21. Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha 22. Buford (GA) 23. Phenix City (AL) Central 24. Draper (UT) Corner Canyon 25. Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon 26. Cocoa (FL) 27. Austin (TX) Westlake 28. Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban 29. Alabaster (AL) Thompson 30. Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County 31. Mission Viejo (CA) 32. Belleville (MI) 33. Orange (CA) Lutheran 34. Carrollton (GA) 35. Kahuku (HI) 36. Tampa (FL) Berkley Prep 37. Folsom (CA) 38. Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy 39. Southlake (TX) Carroll 40. Hochston (GA) Mill Creek 41. Miami (FL) Norland 42. Humble (TX) Atascocita 43. Peoria (AZ) Centennial 44. Greenwood (IN) Center Grove 45. Lehi (UT) Skybridge 46. Houston (TX) Summer Creek 47. Liberty (MO) North 48. Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel 49. Loganville (GA) Grayson 50. Bixby (OK) 51. Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter 52. Miami (FL) Columbus 53. Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis 54. Concord (CA) De LaSalle 55. Marietta (GA) Walton 56. Lakeland (FL) 57. San Mateo (CA) Serra 58. Katy (TX) 59. Bryant (AR) 60. Charlotte (NC) Providence Day 61. Saraland (AL) 62. Toledo (OH) Central Catholic 63. Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson 64. Mililani (HI) 65. Aledo (TX) 66. Chattanooga (TN) McCallie 67. Ruston (LA) 68. Longview (TX) 69. American Fork (UT) 70. Washington (DC) St. Johns 71. Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central 72. Chandler (AZ) 73. Brownsburg (IN) 74. Louisville (KY) Trinity 75. Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding 76. Denton (TX) Guyer 77. Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville 78. San Diego (CA) Lincoln 79. Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff 80. Kingsland (GA) Camden County 81. Littleton (CO) Columbine 82. Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita 83. Cibolo (TX) Steele 84. Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller 85. East St. Louis (IL) 86. Venice (FL) 87. Dripping Springs (TX) 88. Danville (KY) Boyle County 89. Chattanooga (TN) Baylor 90. Greensboro (NC) Grimsley 91. Woodbridge (VA) Freedom 92. Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More 93. Louisville (MS) 94. Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee 95. Anaheim (CA) Servite 96. Sanford (FL) Seminole 97. Vestavia Hills (AL) 98. Rome (GA) 99. Daytona Beach (FL) Mainland 100. Bentonville (AR) What do you know about Sierra Canyon? Haven't heard anything about their expectations for this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted August 8 Author Report Share Posted August 8 22 hours ago, Wooderson said: The best thing about Chandler this season is their schedule; they're going to look like a juggernaut the first four games of the season but are going to be extremely fortunate to finish with fewer than three losses on the year. I've been saying that Chandler has been living off of momentum since 2022 and that is starting to run out; they've gone from a state championship in 2020 to a runner-up finish in 2021 to a second round exit the next year to a first round exit last season. During a very active transfer season they got but a small trickle, and the existing pieces are not bad but less than what's present at Basha (the current daddy of the Chandler district). Centennial has a top 100 roster but aren't going to have access to that until game 5; if they get through those first five games no worse than 3-2 (unlike Chandler they don't open the season with a series of glorified Pop Warner squads) they should be nasty come the backstretch (FWIW I'm not ruling out 5-0 and think 4-1 is very likely, just recognizing that they put together about as ambitious a non-region slate they could without leaving Arizona). It does seem like the power in Arizona has shifted from Chandler to Peoria. Will be interesting to see how it plays out this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted August 8 Author Report Share Posted August 8 8 hours ago, CaliNorth said: What do you know about Sierra Canyon? Haven't heard anything about their expectations for this season After going 11-1 last season, with their only loss coming to Mater Dei in the Southern Sectional semi's, Sierra Canyon looks to continue that success this season. USC commit Xavier Jordan and UCLA commit Kwazi Gilmer lead a group of six D1 signees this season. They will need them all as the schedule is loaded with games against Bosco, Orange Lutheran, and other highly ranked California squads. It will probably be difficult to match last season's 11-1 record but look for the team to be highly competitive and amongst the Top 100 all season. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 Looking at Serra SM to start the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 in first 5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted August 9 Author Report Share Posted August 9 7 hours ago, Cossacks said: Looking at Serra SM to start the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 in first 5. That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult. A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team. Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play. Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, whiteshoes said: That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult. A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team. Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play. Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record. I totally get that. And honestly never worry about team rankings. It literally is an impossible job, but I do like your work. Just letting you know this year there does seem to be some rumblings in NorCal that Serra will take a step back in their own league WCAL and there are concerns at the QB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, whiteshoes said: That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult. A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team. Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play. Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record. The No Nonsense poll operates by those same principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 6 hours ago, whiteshoes said: That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult. A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team. Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play. Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record. That sounds great in theory but we need more evidence for it then "it's just my opinion." That's one of the problems with you two (I want to say clowns, but I'll go with) guys. St. Frances Academy beat one team with a pulse and it was a 21-6 win. There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalnut Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 7 hours ago, whiteshoes said: That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult. A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team. Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play. Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record. 4 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: The No Nonsense poll operates by those same principles. 50 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: That sounds great in theory but we need more evidence for it then "it's just my opinion." That's one of the problems with you two (I want to say clowns, but I'll go with) guys. St. Frances Academy beat one team with a pulse and it was a 21-6 win. There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were. So if it’s a 50-50 chance Finch (according to your post) then they can’t be wrong about St Francis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 18 hours ago, Norcalnut said: So if it’s a 50-50 chance Finch (according to your post) then they can’t be wrong about St Francis. This makes no sense. What I'm objecting to is the certainly that these two guys project when they post these rankings. He says they were a top 100 team as if it's a matter of fact. Spoiler: It's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalnut Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were. By your own statement they have 50-50 chance on being in his top 100. Based on the information at hand he decided to state his “opinion” on why he made the choice. You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 18 hours ago, Cossacks said: Looking at Serra SM to start the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 in first 5. I wouldn't bet against Serra. Their underclass teams were great. They recruit well. I know they lost a lot of starters, but they are so physically imposing to the rest of norcal teams. From what I've read they need a qb . Do have more insight to the program as to why you think they could be 1-4 their first five games . If so I'd like to hear your take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 7 hours ago, CaliNorth said: I wouldn't bet against Serra. Their underclass teams were great. They recruit well. I know they lost a lot of starters, but they are so physically imposing to the rest of norcal teams. From what I've read they need a qb . Do have more insight to the program as to why you think they could be 1-4 their first five games . If so I'd like to hear your take Folsom looks like the number one team in Norcal. I like them this year against Serra. De La Salle game is probably a toss up game, but I like DLS in this match up. SjB game. Clock will be a running in this one. SI? This is a wildcard game. Alot of people are on the SI bandwagon and the program is on the rise with Vandermade. SHC will ne a running clock in Serra’s favor. So 0-2 versus Folsom and SJB look pretty high. 2 toss up games possibly (DLS/SI) and a fifth that is a gimme. So yes 1-4 is a legit possibility, but 2-3 is more of a reality IMO. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 15 hours ago, Norcalnut said: By your own statement they have 50-50 chance on being in his top 100. No, again, this is nonsensical. Saying there's just as much evidence that they aren't doesn't mean it's 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 15 hours ago, Norcalnut said: You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”! They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak. The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Regarding Serra, they lost an incredible senior class but their freshmen team was the best in Norcal. I expect them to be good but step down from last season. Word on the street is they have no QB. Folsom is going to handle them by a few scores. Serra is ranked behind Folsom, DLS and I’d argue Pitt. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 On 8/9/2024 at 6:37 PM, Norcalnut said: By your own statement they have 50-50 chance on being in his top 100. Based on the information at hand he decided to state his “opinion” on why he made the choice. You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”! Don’t bother with Andy the Dandy. He’s a narcissistic momma’s boy. A real keyboard tough guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 On 8/10/2024 at 9:33 AM, Atticus Finch said: They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak. The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it. Here you go again. For the 100th time, it’s an opinion poll for fun. No one has the time to go in depth with 15K teams you idiot! There will ALWAYS be a lot of guesses. When are you going to get that through your thick head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalnut Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 On 8/10/2024 at 7:33 AM, Atticus Finch said: They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak. The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it. So you want the pollsters to justify their “opinions” to you. Why? So you can 💩 on their explanation while adding nothing to the conversation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Omaha Vol said: No one has the time to go in depth with 15K teams you idiot! I know. Which is why I don't do it. and I don't pretend to. But you do pretend. Nobody is accusing you of not watching 15k teams. We're accusing you of pretending that you've even watched 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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