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With the 2025 season opening this weekend (Hawaii), thought I would throw this out there.

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy

4.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco

5.       DeSoto (TX)

6.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna

7.       Duncanville (TX)

8.       Corona (CA) Centennial

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas

10.   Milton (GA)

11.   Houston (TX) North Shore

12.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep

13.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic

14.   Massillon (OH) Washington

15.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty

16.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel

17.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage

18.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy

19.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward

20.   Miami (FL) Central

21.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha

22.   Buford (GA)

23.   Phenix City (AL) Central

24.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon

25.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon

26.   Cocoa (FL)

27.   Austin (TX) Westlake

28.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban

29.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson

30.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County

31.   Mission Viejo (CA)

32.   Belleville (MI)

33.   Orange (CA) Lutheran

34.   Carrollton (GA)

35.   Kahuku (HI)

36.   Tampa (FL) Berkley Prep

37.   Folsom (CA)

38.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll

40.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek

41.   Miami (FL) Norland

42.   Humble (TX) Atascocita

43.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial

44.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove

45.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge

46.   Houston (TX) Summer Creek

47.   Liberty (MO) North

48.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel

49.   Loganville (GA) Grayson

50.   Bixby (OK)

51.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter

52.   Miami (FL) Columbus

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis

54.   Concord (CA) De LaSalle

55.   Marietta (GA) Walton

56.   Lakeland (FL)

57.   San Mateo (CA) Serra

58.   Katy (TX)

59.   Bryant (AR)

60.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day

61.   Saraland (AL)

62.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic

63.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson

64.   Mililani (HI)

65.   Aledo (TX)

66.   Chattanooga (TN) McCallie

67.   Ruston (LA)

68.   Longview (TX)

69.   American Fork (UT)

70.   Washington (DC) St. Johns

71.   Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central

72.   Chandler (AZ)

73.   Brownsburg (IN)

74.   Louisville (KY) Trinity

75.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding

76.   Denton (TX) Guyer

77.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville

78.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln

79.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff

80.   Kingsland (GA) Camden County

81.   Littleton (CO) Columbine

82.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita

83.   Cibolo (TX) Steele

84.   Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller

85.   East St. Louis (IL)

86.   Venice (FL)

87.   Dripping Springs (TX)

88.   Danville (KY) Boyle County

89.   Chattanooga (TN) Baylor

90.   Greensboro (NC) Grimsley

91.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom

92.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More

93.   Louisville (MS)

94.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee

95.   Anaheim (CA) Servite

96.   Sanford (FL) Seminole

97.   Vestavia Hills (AL)

98.   Rome (GA)

99.   Daytona Beach (FL) Mainland

100.  Bentonville (AR)

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14 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

91.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom

Their coaching staff left for Hayfield and most of their underclass players followed them. Some controversies still to be worked out there but Freedom's run is over.

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I realize it's preseason...so it's pretty much dart-throwing time.

It's gonna take about (4) games before we know if Colquitt is Top 50.

Game 3 and Game 4 (North Gwinnett and Lee County) will tell us all we need to know.

So for now....

 

GO YOU HAIRY HAWGS !!!!!!

 

 

Rufus>>

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5 hours ago, MA Fan said:

Their coaching staff left for Hayfield and most of their underclass players followed them. Some controversies still to be worked out there but Freedom's run is over.

Thanks for info.   Probably regretting setting up the DeMatha game now.

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The best thing about Chandler this season is their schedule; they're going to look like a juggernaut the first four games of the season but are going to be extremely fortunate to finish with fewer than three losses on the year. 

I've been saying that Chandler has been living off of momentum since 2022 and that is starting to run out; they've gone from a state championship in 2020 to a runner-up finish in 2021 to a second round exit the next year to a first round exit last season. During a very active transfer season they got but a small trickle, and the existing pieces are not bad but less than what's present at Basha (the current daddy of the Chandler district).

Centennial has a top 100 roster but aren't going to have access to that until game 5; if they get through those first five games no worse than 3-2 (unlike Chandler they don't open the season with a series of glorified Pop Warner squads) they should be nasty come the backstretch (FWIW I'm not ruling out 5-0 and think 4-1 is very likely, just recognizing that they put together about as ambitious a non-region slate they could without leaving Arizona).

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On 8/6/2024 at 8:31 AM, whiteshoes said:

With the 2025 season opening this weekend (Hawaii), thought I would throw this out there.

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy

4.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco

5.       DeSoto (TX)

6.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna

7.       Duncanville (TX)

8.       Corona (CA) Centennial

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas

10.   Milton (GA)

11.   Houston (TX) North Shore

12.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep

13.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic

14.   Massillon (OH) Washington

15.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty

16.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel

17.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage

18.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy

19.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward

20.   Miami (FL) Central

21.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha

22.   Buford (GA)

23.   Phenix City (AL) Central

24.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon

25.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon

26.   Cocoa (FL)

27.   Austin (TX) Westlake

28.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban

29.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson

30.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County

31.   Mission Viejo (CA)

32.   Belleville (MI)

33.   Orange (CA) Lutheran

34.   Carrollton (GA)

35.   Kahuku (HI)

36.   Tampa (FL) Berkley Prep

37.   Folsom (CA)

38.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll

40.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek

41.   Miami (FL) Norland

42.   Humble (TX) Atascocita

43.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial

44.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove

45.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge

46.   Houston (TX) Summer Creek

47.   Liberty (MO) North

48.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel

49.   Loganville (GA) Grayson

50.   Bixby (OK)

51.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter

52.   Miami (FL) Columbus

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis

54.   Concord (CA) De LaSalle

55.   Marietta (GA) Walton

56.   Lakeland (FL)

57.   San Mateo (CA) Serra

58.   Katy (TX)

59.   Bryant (AR)

60.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day

61.   Saraland (AL)

62.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic

63.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson

64.   Mililani (HI)

65.   Aledo (TX)

66.   Chattanooga (TN) McCallie

67.   Ruston (LA)

68.   Longview (TX)

69.   American Fork (UT)

70.   Washington (DC) St. Johns

71.   Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central

72.   Chandler (AZ)

73.   Brownsburg (IN)

74.   Louisville (KY) Trinity

75.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding

76.   Denton (TX) Guyer

77.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville

78.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln

79.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff

80.   Kingsland (GA) Camden County

81.   Littleton (CO) Columbine

82.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita

83.   Cibolo (TX) Steele

84.   Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller

85.   East St. Louis (IL)

86.   Venice (FL)

87.   Dripping Springs (TX)

88.   Danville (KY) Boyle County

89.   Chattanooga (TN) Baylor

90.   Greensboro (NC) Grimsley

91.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom

92.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More

93.   Louisville (MS)

94.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee

95.   Anaheim (CA) Servite

96.   Sanford (FL) Seminole

97.   Vestavia Hills (AL)

98.   Rome (GA)

99.   Daytona Beach (FL) Mainland

100.  Bentonville (AR)

What do you know about Sierra Canyon?  Haven't heard anything about their expectations for this season 

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22 hours ago, Wooderson said:

The best thing about Chandler this season is their schedule; they're going to look like a juggernaut the first four games of the season but are going to be extremely fortunate to finish with fewer than three losses on the year. 

I've been saying that Chandler has been living off of momentum since 2022 and that is starting to run out; they've gone from a state championship in 2020 to a runner-up finish in 2021 to a second round exit the next year to a first round exit last season. During a very active transfer season they got but a small trickle, and the existing pieces are not bad but less than what's present at Basha (the current daddy of the Chandler district).

Centennial has a top 100 roster but aren't going to have access to that until game 5; if they get through those first five games no worse than 3-2 (unlike Chandler they don't open the season with a series of glorified Pop Warner squads) they should be nasty come the backstretch (FWIW I'm not ruling out 5-0 and think 4-1 is very likely, just recognizing that they put together about as ambitious a non-region slate they could without leaving Arizona).

It does seem like the power in Arizona has shifted from Chandler to Peoria.   Will be interesting to see how it plays out this season.

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8 hours ago, CaliNorth said:

What do you know about Sierra Canyon?  Haven't heard anything about their expectations for this season 

After going 11-1 last season, with their only loss coming to Mater Dei in the Southern Sectional semi's, Sierra Canyon looks to continue that success this season.  USC commit Xavier Jordan and UCLA commit Kwazi Gilmer lead a group of six D1 signees this season.   They will need them all as the schedule is loaded with games against Bosco, Orange Lutheran, and other highly ranked California squads.   It will probably be difficult to match last season's 11-1 record but look for the team to be highly competitive and amongst the Top 100 all season.

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7 hours ago, Cossacks said:

Looking at Serra SM to start the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 in first 5.

That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult.   A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team.  Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play.   Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record.  

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3 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult.   A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team.  Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play.   Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record.  

I totally get that. And honestly never worry about team rankings. It literally is an impossible job, but I do like your work.

Just letting you know this year there does seem to be some rumblings in NorCal that Serra will take a step back in their own league WCAL and there are concerns at the QB position.

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3 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult.   A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team.  Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play.   Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record.  

The No Nonsense poll operates by those same principles. 

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6 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult.   A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team.  Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play.   Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record.  

That sounds great in theory but we need more evidence for it then "it's just my opinion." That's one of the problems with you two (I want to say clowns, but I'll go with) guys.

St. Frances Academy beat one team with a pulse and it was a 21-6 win. There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were.

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7 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

That is what makes ranking these teams so difficult.   A team like Sierra could be 1-4 early but still be a Top 100 team.  Posters in other states will whine that there 5-0 teams should be ranked, when in fact, they are not playing the level of competition that a lot of the southern California teams play.   Last year's Baltimore St. Francis team was a top 100 team despite a sub-500 won-loss record.  

 

4 hours ago, Omaha Vol said:

The No Nonsense poll operates by those same principles. 

 

50 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

That sounds great in theory but we need more evidence for it then "it's just my opinion." That's one of the problems with you two (I want to say clowns, but I'll go with) guys.

St. Frances Academy beat one team with a pulse and it was a 21-6 win. There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were.

So if it’s a 50-50 chance Finch (according to your post) then they can’t be wrong about St Francis.

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18 hours ago, Norcalnut said:

So if it’s a 50-50 chance Finch (according to your post) then they can’t be wrong about St Francis.

This makes no sense.

What I'm objecting to is the certainly that these two guys project when they post these rankings. He says they were a top 100 team as if it's a matter of fact.

Spoiler: It's not.

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2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

There's just as much evidence that they weren't top 100 than that they were.

By your own statement they have 50-50 chance on being in his top 100. Based on the information at hand he decided to state his “opinion” on why he made the choice. You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”!

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18 hours ago, Cossacks said:

Looking at Serra SM to start the season 0-3 and possibly 1-4 in first 5.

I wouldn't bet against Serra. Their underclass teams were great. They recruit well. I know they lost a lot of starters, but they are so physically imposing to  the rest of norcal teams. From what I've read they need a qb . Do have more insight to the program as to  why you think they could be 1-4 their first five games . If so I'd like to hear your take

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7 hours ago, CaliNorth said:

I wouldn't bet against Serra. Their underclass teams were great. They recruit well. I know they lost a lot of starters, but they are so physically imposing to  the rest of norcal teams. From what I've read they need a qb . Do have more insight to the program as to  why you think they could be 1-4 their first five games . If so I'd like to hear your take

Folsom looks like the number one team in Norcal. I like them this year against Serra.

De La Salle game is probably a toss up game, but I like DLS in this match up.

SjB game. Clock will be a running in this one.

SI? This is a wildcard game. Alot of people are on the SI bandwagon and the program is on the rise with Vandermade.

SHC will ne a running clock in Serra’s favor.

So 0-2 versus Folsom and SJB look pretty high. 2 toss up games possibly (DLS/SI) and a fifth that is a gimme. So yes 1-4 is a legit possibility, but 2-3 is more of a reality IMO.

 

 

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15 hours ago, Norcalnut said:

You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”!

They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak.

The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it.

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On 8/9/2024 at 6:37 PM, Norcalnut said:

By your own statement they have 50-50 chance on being in his top 100. Based on the information at hand he decided to state his “opinion” on why he made the choice. You’re the one who decided to deride his statement and claim something he never did. And that’s a “fact”!

Don’t bother with Andy the Dandy.  He’s a narcissistic momma’s boy. A real keyboard tough guy!

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On 8/10/2024 at 9:33 AM, Atticus Finch said:

They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak.

The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it.

Here you go again. For the 100th time, it’s an opinion poll for fun. No one has the time to go in depth with 15K teams you idiot! There will ALWAYS be a lot of guesses. When are you going to get that through your thick head? 

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On 8/10/2024 at 7:33 AM, Atticus Finch said:

They never back up anything they say. They hide behind "well, it's *my* poll so put out your own!" which is super weak.

The truth is that they have no support and/or can't articulate it.

So you want the pollsters to justify their “opinions” to you. Why? So you can 💩 on their explanation while adding nothing to the conversation.

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