RedZone Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 Freaking embarrassing. The "trump" God Bless The USA Bible is evidently the only Bible that meets the Holy Bible criteria in Oklahoma. Very soon every kid in a maggot state will have a God Bless the USA donald trump Bible because it will be the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 38 minutes ago, RedZone said: Freaking embarrassing. The "trump" God Bless The USA Bible is evidently the only Bible that meets the Holy Bible criteria in Oklahoma. Very soon every kid in a maggot state will have a God Bless the USA donald trump Bible because it will be the law. They should give those people what they ask for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 Haha you guys scare easy. If teachers can teach kids to hide secrets from their parents, change their gender, read graphic sexual novels, and promote far left ideology, they can incorporate some Christian teachings for the kids who don’t want any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 Someone breaks it down even a demonic sinner like @World Citizen can understand Really gross I know. It's almost certainly the most "ewww" verse in the entire Bible. But the grossness is of course deliberate. God in this entire chapter is depicting Israel's moral failures in sexual terms. He likens Israel to a prostitute, who gave herself over to lewdness and inhonorable men and is thus worthy of disgust. Depicting immorality in sexual terms is unbelievably effective In conveying the weight of someone's immorality. Most people have an innate sense of what is sexually disgusting, even among their sexual desires they can almost naturally discern that some of their desires are gross. Think of porn, there's the whole "joke" of people waiting for the video to load and thinking to themselves 'what am I doing? This is disgusting and sad, why am I watching this' basically all you need to do to make someone feel ashamed of their sexual tendencies is to DESCRIBE IT TO THEM. Someone who's into a kinky fetish will typically just feel ashamed thinking about their attraction. All of this makes sex a very useful tool in conveying general immorality, because that innate sense of shame isn't present in other forms of sin. If you told a porn addict 'hey stop lusting and just look at what you're watching critically' 90% of them would immediately feel ashamed. If you told a molech worshiper 'hey look at this! You're sacrificing your own son to a totem' they likely wouldn't feel ashamed if they've already bought into the ideology. Seriously the chapter is so brilliant. God is basically saying to Israel 'HEY isn't THIS disgusting' and all of Israel would innately respond 'well yeah' and than God would respond "and THIS is a representation of what YOU'RE doing. Can you not see that? It's very convicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Someone breaks it down even a demonic sinner like @World Citizen can understand Really gross I know. It's almost certainly the most "ewww" verse in the entire Bible. But the grossness is of course deliberate. God in this entire chapter is depicting Israel's moral failures in sexual terms. He likens Israel to a prostitute, who gave herself over to lewdness and inhonorable men and is thus worthy of disgust. Depicting immorality in sexual terms is unbelievably effective In conveying the weight of someone's immorality. Most people have an innate sense of what is sexually disgusting, even among their sexual desires they can almost naturally discern that some of their desires are gross. Think of porn, there's the whole "joke" of people waiting for the video to load and thinking to themselves 'what am I doing? This is disgusting and sad, why am I watching this' basically all you need to do to make someone feel ashamed of their sexual tendencies is to DESCRIBE IT TO THEM. Someone who's into a kinky fetish will typically just feel ashamed thinking about their attraction. All of this makes sex a very useful tool in conveying general immorality, because that innate sense of shame isn't present in other forms of sin. If you told a porn addict 'hey stop lusting and just look at what you're watching critically' 90% of them would immediately feel ashamed. If you told a molech worshiper 'hey look at this! You're sacrificing your own son to a totem' they likely wouldn't feel ashamed if they've already bought into the ideology. Seriously the chapter is so brilliant. God is basically saying to Israel 'HEY isn't THIS disgusting' and all of Israel would innately respond 'well yeah' and than God would respond "and THIS is a representation of what YOU'RE doing. Can you not see that? It's very convicting. There is absolutely nothing that you can tell me about the bible. zero. Nada. Zilch. Your lack of knowledge on this subject and basically every subject under the sun is embarrassing. Just a fyi but I don't believe in sin so I can't be a sinner. I definitely don't believe in Satan or hell. I actually have a brain and morals. I have been reading your bs for years and you have NEVER got one thing correct. Astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Haha you guys scare easy. If teachers can teach kids to hide secrets from their parents, change their gender, read graphic sexual novels, and promote far left ideology, they can incorporate some Christian teachings for the kids who don’t want any of that. Haha. We are not scared...we are laughing at you and your fake Christianity. Teachers changing genders? LMAO!!!! You are one stupid person. Nothing you ever say is true. Why that does not bother you is what you should be thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, World Citizen said: There is absolutely nothing that you can tell me about the bible. zero. Nada. Zilch. ... Well my friend, you certainly know more than me. All I know about Ezekial 23:20 is what I found on Reddit: link 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 4, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 The donald trump Bible is really the Lee Greenwood Bible. It's the Swiss army knife of Bibles. 😭😄😭 https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/what-is-the-god-bless-the-usa-trump-bible-oklahoma-controversy-ryan-walters/75515550007/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 Just now, RedZone said: The donald Trump Bible is really the Lee Greenwood Bible. It's the Swiss army knife of Bibles. 😭😄😭 https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/what-is-the-god-bless-the-usa-trump-bible-oklahoma-controversy-ryan-walters/75515550007/ Give it a reset ya chinless wonder. Kamalaaaaaa is fading, and psycho VP isn’t helping. Get ready for 4 years of prosperity….even for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 4, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 9 minutes ago, RedZone said: The donald trump Bible is really the Lee Greenwood Bible. It's the Swiss army knife of Bibles. 😭😄😭 https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/10/04/what-is-the-god-bless-the-usa-trump-bible-oklahoma-controversy-ryan-walters/75515550007/ lee greenwood grifting the Bible is pretty sad by itself. Nothing really surprises me with these maggots though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 5 hours ago, World Citizen said: Just a fyi but I don't believe in sin so I can't be a sinner. I definitely don't believe in Satan or hell. I actually have a brain and morals. I don't want to get into a whole thing with you, since you're talking to someone else, but this inference doesn't work, and it's an important one, unless you assume that your beliefs determine reality, which is wildly implausible. You can break the law and wind up in jail even if you doin't believe, like the sovereign citizens, that the law exists or applies to you. And you can wind up in the Americas even if you didn't believe in their existence when you set sail for India. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Belly Bob said: I don't want to get into a whole thing with you, since you're talking to someone else, but this inference doesn't work, and it's an important one, unless you assume that your beliefs determine reality, which is wildly implausible. You can break the law and wind up in jail even if you doin't believe, like the sovereign citizens, that the law exists or applies to you. And you can wind up in the Americas even if you didn't believe in their existence when you set sail for India. Lol. Sure it works. Your 1st paragraph does not make sense but your 2nd does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 3 hours ago, World Citizen said: Haha. We are not scared...we are laughing at you and your fake Christianity. Teachers changing genders? LMAO!!!! You are one stupid person. Nothing you ever say is true. Why that does not bother you is what you should be thinking about. No, teachers grooming and supporting gender dysphoria in young children. Not them doing surgery. Come on you know that’s what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 3 hours ago, 15yds4gibberish said: Well my friend, you certainly know more than me. All I know about Ezekial 23:20 is what I found on Reddit: link 😉 I read it and it sounded reasonable. He took one quote from the Bible, intentionally out of context, and it’s supposed to be the gospel. Lol. Finding a long drawn out breakdown of the controversial quote that is certainly plausible. Doesn’t move the needle. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 4, 2024 Report Share Posted October 4, 2024 3 hours ago, World Citizen said: Haha. We are not scared...we are laughing at you and your fake Christianity. Teachers changing genders? LMAO!!!! You are one stupid person. Nothing you ever say is true. Why that does not bother you is what you should be thinking about. When you say “fake Christianity” what about Christianity that is taught that you believe I or anyone else you call it is not practicing? I will give you headstart. We ALL fall short and will never be perfect. But I would like to hear where we fall short in your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 2 hours ago, World Citizen said: Your 1st paragraph does not make sense but your 2nd does. But the 2nd explains the 1st. I wrote it for precisely that reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 19 hours ago, Belly Bob said: I don't want to get into a whole thing with you, since you're talking to someone else, but this inference doesn't work, and it's an important one, unless you assume that your beliefs determine reality, which is wildly implausible. You can break the law and wind up in jail even if you doin't believe, like the sovereign citizens, that the law exists or applies to you. And you can wind up in the Americas even if you didn't believe in their existence when you set sail for India. Does your belief in sin make it a reality? Does your belief make it a reality for me? Are we born with sin? Did God create sin as part of creation, or did humans create sin apart from what God created? Highly implausible. The Americas are not ideas, they are continents. Statutes are actual written law, so they are real. Sin does not fit in the 'things' category. A book says we are sinners and there are people who believe what the book says and some who do not. I simply do not think that God would deny any of his children because of mistakes made here, no matter how terrible. Do you think God is vengeful? Karma/cause and effects take care of any and all transgressions and that frees us from the need to judge which Christianity tells us we should not do. That doesn't mean we let people do any terrible thing they want to. We still have laws and the safety of society to protect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 17 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: But I would like to hear where we fall short in your opinion Show me where in the bible it says to treat ANYBODY like you wanted to do. This is you 👇 "This is war. They should treat it like war. Shoot anyone within 1,000 feet of the border. This invasion is not being taken serious enough. This will be known as the North American war, and hopefully our military uses the maximum force to get rid of this deadly and terrorist threat by any means necessary " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 54 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Show me where in the bible it says to treat ANYBODY like you wanted to do. This is you 👇 "This is war. They should treat it like war. Shoot anyone within 1,000 feet of the border. This invasion is not being taken serious enough. This will be known as the North American war, and hopefully our military uses the maximum force to get rid of this deadly and terrorist threat by any means necessary " To be fair that was during an invasion. And at the time it was a deadly and terrorist threat. But I concede, it was a little over the top. Emotions got the best of me, but there was definitely extreme measures needed to neutralize the threat at the time. War is not a fun time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 3 hours ago, World Citizen said: Does your belief in sin make it a reality? Does your belief make it a reality for me? ↳ No and no. That's my whole point. Whether sin does or does not exist does not depend on my belief or on your belief, which is why the inference from "I don't believe in sin" to "I can't be a sinner" doesn't work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted October 5, 2024 Report Share Posted October 5, 2024 On 10/4/2024 at 3:40 PM, World Citizen said: I actually have [...] morals. ↳ 3 hours ago, World Citizen said: The Americas are not ideas, they are continents. Statutes are actual written law, so they are real. Sin does not fit in the 'things' category. A book says we are sinners and there are people who believe what the book says and some who do not. ↳ ↳ Sin does not fit in the 'things' category but morals do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader12-0 Posted October 6, 2024 Report Share Posted October 6, 2024 Sin is a term you use when you consider something to be morally wrong. I’m not a tad bit religious and I still say it. It’s not that complicated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I AM IRONMAN Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 1 hour ago, FreeBird said: Was that DBP66? Looked like upstate NY 😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 On 10/4/2024 at 12:08 PM, World Citizen said: They should give those people what they ask for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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