Fred Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 I was reading an article in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution about Milton and where they wound up in national rankings. To be honest, I was looking for where Grayson wound up after our championship win. This is was was posted for the Massey rankings. Massey Ratings (Top 100) 4. (11) Milton 5. (8) Carrollton 11. (23) Buford 36. (33) Grayson Grayson beat Carrollton for the top class championship in GA. Tell me how Carrollton moved UP in the rankings from #8 to #5 and how Grayson moved DOWN from #33 to #36? I get Grayson not being in the top ten since we lost our opener. I even get although I might disagree with Grayson being in the 30s in his rankings. What I don't get is how the team we beat moved up while we moved down especially since the game was for the ship and especially since it wasn't a 1 point game or a win in the final seconds on a Hail Mary or something like that. Most of the other polls have us in the top 15 or even top 10. I'm good with all of those but this just doesn't make sense to me. Can someone explain it to me please? Come to think of it, how did Buford who went out in the semifinals move up 12 spots? It makes no sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 For what it is worth, this is the list of where the top Georgia teams wound up. The article was on Dec 26th so the final two polls may be out by now. National rankings: Blue Star Media (Top 25) 2. (2) Milton 6. (NR) Grayson 12. (4) Carrollton CalPreps (Top 100) 6. (8) Milton 12. (30) Grayson 13. (13) Buford 15. (9) Carrollton 35. (52) North Oconee 41. (43) Lee County 51. (44) Hughes 54. (59) Douglas County 77. (72) Thomas County Central 79. (62) Marist High School Football America (Top 100) 2. (2) Milton 13. (32) Grayson 19. (8) Carrollton 20. (20) Buford 41. (41) Lee County 50. (49) Douglas County 52. (51) Hughes 55. (54) Collins Hill 61. (60) North Gwinnett 92. (92) Thomas County Central 94. (94) Coffee MaxPreps (Top 100) 2. (2) Milton 7. (24) Grayson 9. (4) Carrollton 12. (12) Buford 29. (29) Lee County 38. (39) Douglas County 41. (42) Hughes 64. (64) Collins Hill 72. (72) Thomas County Central 78. (78) North Gwinnett 84. (83) Roswell 99. (NR) North Oconee Massey Ratings (Top 100) 4. (11) Milton 5. (8) Carrollton 11. (23) Buford 36. (33) Grayson 37. (31) Lee County 39. (39) Hughes 53. (70) Douglas County 60. (55) Thomas County Central 84. (86) North Gwinnett 88. (90) Collins Hill 90. (93) North Cobb 93. (125) Coffee 100. (132) Lowndes NationalHSFB (Top 25) 2. (2) Milton 11. (NR) Grayson 14. (11) Carrollton 16. (15) Buford SBLive/Sports Illustrated (final poll not released) (Top 25) 2. Milton 5. Carrollton 21. Buford USA Today (final poll not released) (Top 25) 2. Milton 5. Carrollton 10. Buford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, Fred said: For what it is worth, this is the list of where the top Georgia teams wound up. The article was on Dec 26th so the final two polls may be out by now. National rankings: Blue Star Media (Top 25) 2. (2) Milton 6. (NR) Grayson 12. (4) Carrollton CalPreps (Top 100) 6. (8) Milton 12. (30) Grayson 13. (13) Buford 15. (9) Carrollton 35. (52) North Oconee 41. (43) Lee County 51. (44) Hughes 54. (59) Douglas County 77. (72) Thomas County Central 79. (62) Marist High School Football America (Top 100) 2. (2) Milton 13. (32) Grayson 19. (8) Carrollton 20. (20) Buford 41. (41) Lee County 50. (49) Douglas County 52. (51) Hughes 55. (54) Collins Hill 61. (60) North Gwinnett 92. (92) Thomas County Central 94. (94) Coffee MaxPreps (Top 100) 2. (2) Milton 7. (24) Grayson 9. (4) Carrollton 12. (12) Buford 29. (29) Lee County 38. (39) Douglas County 41. (42) Hughes 64. (64) Collins Hill 72. (72) Thomas County Central 78. (78) North Gwinnett 84. (83) Roswell 99. (NR) North Oconee Massey Ratings (Top 100) 4. (11) Milton 5. (8) Carrollton 11. (23) Buford 36. (33) Grayson 37. (31) Lee County 39. (39) Hughes 53. (70) Douglas County 60. (55) Thomas County Central 84. (86) North Gwinnett 88. (90) Collins Hill 90. (93) North Cobb 93. (125) Coffee 100. (132) Lowndes NationalHSFB (Top 25) 2. (2) Milton 11. (NR) Grayson 14. (11) Carrollton 16. (15) Buford SBLive/Sports Illustrated (final poll not released) (Top 25) 2. Milton 5. Carrollton 21. Buford USA Today (final poll not released) (Top 25) 2. Milton 5. Carrollton 10. Buford Also I take it MD is taking the National Title again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Massey is a worthless poll. I wouldn’t read too much into that poll if I were you. Don’t fret though. The No Nonsense poll should be out by tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Fred, This is what I see for Massey Ratings, fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 So MNC rankings are look at suspiciously because a fanboy doesn't like where his team is ranked? Ok, thanks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: So MNC rankings are look at suspiciously because a fanboy doesn't like where his team is ranked? Ok, thanks man. Shut your pie hole and start showing some action, you bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Omaha Vol getting unhinged and wanting to respond but having no actual substance to respond with. Or in other words, Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Omaha Vol getting unhinged and wanting to respond but having no actual substance to respond with. Or in other words, Wednesday. This isn’t me getting unhinged. I’m just simply calling you out on your bullshit. All you do is spew out vitriol every year, but never back up your condescending attitude with action. Put up or shut up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 30 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: This isn’t me getting unhinged. I’m just simply calling you out on your bullshit. All you do is spew out vitriol every year, but never back up your condescending attitude with action. Put up or shut up! You're doing a terrible job of it. How many years now have you failed to come up with anything else to say? All you do is smear feces all over the screen in the form of rankings and then self-destruct like this when challenged on it. My action is exposing you, then mocking you, then watching you self-destruct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 23 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: So MNC rankings are look at suspiciously because a fanboy doesn't like where his team is ranked? Ok, thanks man. Why am I not surprised that you added nothing of substance and totally missed the point. Did you miss where I said I was totally ok where the other rankings have us? Looks like it. Did you miss where I asked for someone to explain how the team we beat went up in the rankings while we went down? Looks like it. Did you miss where a team that lost in the semifinals went up 13 places? Looks like it. Did you miss where I said while I didn't agree with us being in the 30s I could understand it? Looks like it. The only question I had and have is how do those teams that lost move up in the rankings (in one case significantly) while we won the championship over them. Is that such a hard thing for you to understand? I mean I realize it isn't that great paragon of HS football known as South Florida but still. Ok oh great self-imagined guru of all things high school football, explain it to this fan boy. After all, that's what I asked people to do so I could understand it. It makes no sense and calls into question all of his rankings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2025 at 1:29 PM, golfaddict1 said: Fred, This is what I see for Massey Ratings, fyi. State rankings but still, how does Carrollton wind up ahead of us when we beat them soundly? Makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2025 at 3:49 PM, Fred said: Why am I not surprised that you added nothing of substance and totally missed the point. Did you miss where I said I was totally ok where the other rankings have us? Looks like it. Did you miss where I asked for someone to explain how the team we beat went up in the rankings while we went down? Looks like it. Did you miss where a team that lost in the semifinals went up 13 places? Looks like it. Did you miss where I said while I didn't agree with us being in the 30s I could understand it? Looks like it. The only question I had and have is how do those teams that lost move up in the rankings (in one case significantly) while we won the championship over them. Is that such a hard thing for you to understand? I mean I realize it isn't that great paragon of HS football known as South Florida but still. Ok oh great self-imagined guru of all things high school football, explain it to this fan boy. After all, that's what I asked people to do so I could understand it. It makes no sense and calls into question all of his rankings. He's an idiot who thinks he knows everything. He tries to be condescending about it, but his knowledge of football is weak at best. The closest he's been to a football field is in the locker room at St. Thomas Aquinas after practice, so he can collect all the sweaty jockstraps for sniffing. Or, whatever he does with them in his mom's basement..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2025 at 4:49 PM, Fred said: Why am I not surprised that you added nothing of substance and totally missed the point. Did you miss where I said I was totally ok where the other rankings have us? Looks like it. Did you miss where I asked for someone to explain how the team we beat went up in the rankings while we went down? Looks like it. Did you miss where a team that lost in the semifinals went up 13 places? Looks like it. Did you miss where I said while I didn't agree with us being in the 30s I could understand it? Looks like it. The only question I had and have is how do those teams that lost move up in the rankings (in one case significantly) while we won the championship over them. Is that such a hard thing for you to understand? I mean I realize it isn't that great paragon of HS football known as South Florida but still. Ok oh great self-imagined guru of all things high school football, explain it to this fan boy. After all, that's what I asked people to do so I could understand it. It makes no sense and calls into question all of his rankings. You are a silly fanboy who doesn't understand algorithms and computer rankings. Just say that up front so nobody waste their times reading your nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2025 at 10:12 PM, Omaha Vol said: He's an idiot who thinks he knows everything. He tries to be condescending about it, but his knowledge of football is weak at best. The closest he's been to a football field is in the locker room at St. Thomas Aquinas after practice, so he can collect all the sweaty jockstraps for sniffing. Or, whatever he does with them in his mom's basement..... Your dues payments for the Atticus Finch stalker fan club are late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 6 Author Report Share Posted January 6 On 1/4/2025 at 1:32 PM, Atticus Finch said: You are a silly fanboy who doesn't understand algorithms and computer rankings. Just say that up front so nobody waste their times reading your nonsense. Yet again, you added nothing and didn't answer the question. If you are so good, share that knowledge so we all know. If you find my posts such a waste of time, a) why do you bother to read and respond to them, and b) you can always put me on ignore so your precious time isn't wasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 17 hours ago, Fred said: Yet again, you added nothing and didn't answer the question. If you are so good, share that knowledge so we all know. If you find my posts such a waste of time, a) why do you bother to read and respond to them, and b) you can always put me on ignore so your precious time isn't wasted. Andy never adds anything of substance. He’s a virus that continues to spread through the system like wild fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 12/31/2024 at 5:15 PM, Fred said: I was reading an article in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution about Milton and where they wound up in national rankings. To be honest, I was looking for where Grayson wound up after our championship win. This is was was posted for the Massey rankings. Massey Ratings (Top 100) 4. (11) Milton 5. (8) Carrollton 11. (23) Buford 36. (33) Grayson Grayson beat Carrollton for the top class championship in GA. Tell me how Carrollton moved UP in the rankings from #8 to #5 and how Grayson moved DOWN from #33 to #36? I get Grayson not being in the top ten since we lost our opener. I even get although I might disagree with Grayson being in the 30s in his rankings. What I don't get is how the team we beat moved up while we moved down especially since the game was for the ship and especially since it wasn't a 1 point game or a win in the final seconds on a Hail Mary or something like that. Most of the other polls have us in the top 15 or even top 10. I'm good with all of those but this just doesn't make sense to me. Can someone explain it to me please? Come to think of it, how did Buford who went out in the semifinals move up 12 spots? It makes no sense. High School football rankings are pretty much bogus and myth. I'm not sure what you think Grayson has to do with that You seem upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2025 at 11:17 PM, Fred said: Yet again, you added nothing and didn't answer the question. I added that you don't understand simple algorithms. So I think you're too stupid to even explain this to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2025 at 11:17 PM, Fred said: If you are so good, share that knowledge so we all know. See, this is who we know that you're not a serious person. You don't even understand that one algorithm rated Carrollton's entire season higher than Grayson's. That's it. You're a feckless, whiny fanboy who's incapable of understanding simple concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2025 at 11:17 PM, Fred said: If you find my posts such a waste of time, a) why do you bother to read and respond to them, and b) you can always put me on ignore so your precious time isn't wasted. Because I enjoy mocking people like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 6 hours ago, RedZone said: High School football rankings are pretty much bogus and myth. I'm not sure what you think Grayson has to do with that You seem upset. The guy is a moron. He's managed to mix his whiny attitude with an amazing level of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 8 Author Report Share Posted January 8 14 hours ago, RedZone said: High School football rankings are pretty much bogus and myth. I'm not sure what you think Grayson has to do with that You seem upset. You too missed the point. I'm not whining or upset, I'm seriously asking. After very similar seasons culminating in Grayson convincingly beating Carrollton, Carrollton went up in the poll and Grayson went down. Why? So far, no one has answered the question, only attempted to belittle me. It makes those rankings very suspect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 8 Author Report Share Posted January 8 8 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: See, this is who we know that you're not a serious person. You don't even understand that one algorithm rated Carrollton's entire season higher than Grayson's. That's it. You're a feckless, whiny fanboy who's incapable of understanding simple concepts. And that's what I'm asking oh self absorbed one. The two seasons were very similar culminating in a convincing win by Grayson over Carrollton. So demonstrate that oh so self declared knowledge and share *why* Carrollton went up and Grayson went down. What made the algorithm do that? It's a simple question. For someone with such self proclaimed intelligence, you sure don't seem to understand that. And you are a self absorbed, arrogant asshole whose so called knowledge is both suspect and rarely, if ever, demonstrated. See, two can play that childish name calling game. If you weren't so intent on trying, and failing I might add, to belittle me, you might see that I've given you a golden opportunity to demonstrate that intelligence you keep trying, and failing again, to flaunt. Answer the question asked. You might be surprised at what I can understand. 8 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Because I enjoy mocking people like you. Speaks highly of you and your personality. That's sarcasm by the way since I know you won't get it. 8 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: The guy is a moron. He's managed to mix his whiny attitude with an amazing level of stupidity. Unlike you, I'm never ashamed to admit ignorance and ask for information. That's not stupid. Stupid is believing you are better than everyone else while regularly demonstrating that you cannot function without self aggrandizement. It must be sad to be that insecure. Answer the question. That's all it will take for this thread to stop. Or are you just unable to answer because the reality is you don't know and don't understand the question. As an aside to everyone else, want to bet on how many individual responses to a single post he will put up? 🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Fred said: Answer the question. That's all it will take for this thread to stop. Or are you just unable to answer because the reality is you don't know and don't understand the question. As an aside to everyone else, want to bet on how many individual responses to a single post he will put up? 🤣 He could answer. He won’t because he doesn’t have the mental capacity to give you a good one. Nor, does he have the fortitude to do it. His record for responses might be around 8 or 9 for one post I made. Let’s see if he can break the record. I’ve been living in his head rent free for years now. Maybe you can join me… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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