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Just now, concha said:

 

Right. It will have to be a very close game in every respect in order to even have an argument o keep both in.

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Exactly. OK doesnt have an easy game this week in Ok State. Ok State defense is good. I think they have a good chance of the upset. Clemson will probably win out. ND could fall. OSU is sitting in a good spot to make the playoffs

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1 minute ago, HSFBfan said:

Exactly. OK doesnt have an easy game this week in Ok State. Ok State defense is good. I think they have a good chance of the upset. Clemson will probably win out. ND could fall. OSU is sitting in a good spot to make the playoffs

OK has two tough opponents in a row. Between Clemson, tOSU and OK, OK is the most likely to lose.

I think ND wins out.

 

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Just now, concha said:

OK has two tough opponents in a row. Between Clemson, tOSU and OK, OK is the most likely to lose.

I think ND wins out.

 

that stanford game looms in Palo Alto last game of the season. Miami will get up for the game as well

OSU more then likely wont lose. Wisconsin i think can get them in BIG Championship game. Good defense over there

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1 minute ago, aZjimbo said:

SOS really helping the Irish. MSU (win), Stanford, NCS )(win), USC (win), Miami and Georgia (loss) all on schedule. 

 

Yep.  What would be interesting to see is the potential impact of a significant Georgia loss on ND.  Georgia is ND's anchor in the top 4 IMO.

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1 minute ago, zulu1128 said:

Just to elaborate, I think the top 6 is about where it should be at this stage. 

At the end of the day, if OSU wins out, they’ll be in the bracket...and all will be as it should. :D

 

What would be the committee's rationale if OK and Clemson win out also? That's the obstacle.

tOSU's most likely path is the loser of GA-Bama dropping out and Oklahoma losing in the next two weeks (Okla St or TCU).

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32 minutes ago, zulu1128 said:

Agreed with both of you pretty much. If everyone wins out, the Alabama/Georgia loser is out. Clemson will be out with the worst resume.

 

Zero chance the committee passes on 11-1 ND and 12-1 B1G Champ OSU.

Not so sure I agree, as the only guaranteed loss out there is the SEC 'ship.

The Bucks will not leapfrog OK without them losing (decent chance of happening in their next two games - if so, then problem solved).

Clemson is likely, but not guaranteed, to win out. From a starting spot +2 vs tOSU, they would have more wins over teams with winning records and over more ranked teams. That said, tOSU would have a much more dominant wins and the best win (Penn St), Clemson the worst loss.

The almighty dollar agrees with you though. The committee has just set themselves up for a real potential shit storm if they go with your prediction.

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1 hour ago, zulu1128 said:

Agreed with both of you pretty much. If everyone wins out, the Alabama/Georgia loser is out. Clemson will be out with the worst resume.

 

Zero chance the committee passes on 11-1 ND and 12-1 B1G Champ OSU.

Unless OU goes 12-1, who whipped the Luckeyes asses. Then you can't keep them out. No way. OU would have wins over OK. St. and TCU, just as good as wins over Penn St. and a down Michigan squad. They lost (OSU) lost their marquee match up. Too bad.

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12 hours ago, HSFBfan said:

that stanford game looms in Palo Alto last game of the season. Miami will get up for the game as well

OSU more then likely wont lose. Wisconsin i think can get them in BIG Championship game. Good defense over there

Miami has one of the worst rush defenses in the country. I'm more scared about Stanford. 

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35 minutes ago, 181pl said:

Unless OU goes 12-1, who whipped the Luckeyes asses. Then you can't keep them out. No way. OU would have wins over OK. St. and TCU, just as good as wins over Penn St. and a down Michigan squad. They lost (OSU) lost their marquee match up. Too bad.

Then it would be:

Alabama/Ga winner

OU

ND

OSU

 

I’m still a little confused how a 2-score game that was 17-13 with 11 minutes left gets spun as an “ass whipping,” but whatevs I guess. 

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58 minutes ago, zulu1128 said:

I’m still a little confused how a 2-score game that was 17-13 with 11 minutes left gets spun as an “ass whipping,” but whatevs I guess. 

OK was clearly better on the day.

That said, tOSU's line play is much improved since then and, more importantly, their passing game is galactically better than it was. At the time of the OK game, Barrett had 1-2 experienced receivers he was comfortable with. Now he's got 5-6 (as seen in the Penn St game and several games before). Barrett's game-by-game ratings/QBRs reflect this. This three lowest-rated performances were weeks 1-3. They are far higher now. Mayfield has actually declined though he's still very good.

I am admittedly a Buckeye homer, but I would not bet against tOSU in a rematch.  Ohio State has improved drastically IMO, and OK not so much. 

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7 minutes ago, zulu1128 said:

Agreed on all counts. I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t welcome a rematch with OU. 

tOSU's special teams weakness wouldn't even matter so much as OK does not have a Saquon Barkley to worry about.

I usually don't bet on games, but if they face each other again I'd be very comfortable putting a few bucks on the Bucks.  Not sure what it would take for them to both get into the final 4, but I'd love to see them play again.

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3 hours ago, zulu1128 said:

Then it would be:

Alabama/Ga winner

OU

ND

OSU

 

I’m still a little confused how a 2-score game that was 17-13 with 11 minutes left gets spun as an “ass whipping,” but whatevs I guess. 

How could you take ND over GA? GA won head to head. And do you really think the committee would take one-loss OSU or ND over one loss BAMA? I don't. If ND, GA, OK, and BAMA win out, and then GA plays BAMA in the SEC title game, OSU is out. 

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