Sammyswordsman Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Tier 1 - IMG, Mater Dei, Cen10, Ben Davis, AHP, SFA, Katy Tier 2 - Bingham, Allen, SJB, Trinity Ky, Archer, Lowndes, Central FL, St. Eds, Colerain, St. X, St. Iggy. Vierra, Bishop Gorman, Grayson Tier 3 - The Woodlands, St. Louis HI, Manvel, Duncanville TX, Mission Viejo, Chaminade, DLS, Walton, Tift, Santa Margarita, St. Xavier (Ky), Cartersville Ga Tier 4 - Union, Hoover , Klein Collins, East UT, Ft. Dorchester, South Pointe, Cardinal Gibbons, St. Johns, De Soto, Collquitt, JSerra, Evangel Christian, Chandler AZ, Bergen Catholic, SJR, Narbonne, SJP, North Gwinett, Westlake Tx, SPP, Brookwood Ga. Tier 5 Folsom, DePaul, Kahuku, Poly, Rome, John Curtis, Buford, DeMatha, Gonzaga, OLU, Servite, Mountain Pointe AZ, West Monroe LA. Centennial AZ, Judson, Cocoa, STA, Northwestern Fl. Gonzaga *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. *Tiers based on how teams are playing today. Not based on week 1 games etc. *Tier 1 teams can compete with any other Tier 1 teams and possibly win 1+ of 10 *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Tier 1 - IMG, Mater Dei, Cen10, Ben Davis, AHP, SFA, Katy Tier 2 - Bingham, Allen, SJB, Trinity Ky, Archer, Lowndes, Central FL, St. Eds, Colerain, St. X, St. Iggy. Vierra, Bishop Gorman, Grayson Tier 3 - The Woodlands, St. Louis HI, Manvel, Duncanville TX, Mission Viejo, Chaminade, DLS, Walton, Tift, Santa Margarita, St. Xavier (Ky), Cartersville Ga Tier 4 - Union, Hoover , Klein Collins, East UT, Ft. Dorchester, South Pointe, Cardinal Gibbons, St. Johns, De Soto, Collquitt, JSerra, Evangel Christian, Chandler AZ, Bergen Catholic, SJR, Narbonne, SJP, North Gwinett, Westlake Tx, SPP Tier 5 Folsom, DePaul, Kahuku, Poly, Rome, John Curtis, Buford, DeMatha, Gonzaga, OLU, Servite, Mountain Pointe AZ, West Monroe LA. Centennial AZ, Judson, Cocoa, STA, Northwestern Fl. Gonzaga *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. *Tiers based on how teams are playing today. Not based on week 1 games etc. *Tier 1 teams can compete with any other Tier 1 teams and possibly win 1+ of 10 *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate Few issues.... Cen10 is tier 1 based on what? I like Cen10 but dude they've played no one thats even been remotely on par with them since IMG... Tier 2 at best... AHP? Very Questionable... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Few issues.... Cen10 is tier 1 based on what? I like Cen10 but dude they've played no one thats even been remotely on par with them since IMG... Tier 2 at best... AHP? Very Questionable... Miami Central lost by 9 to IMG. A solid tier 1 team. And the most probable MNC. Cen10 lost by 21 to IMG. MC beat Gorman. A solid tier 2 team in Sammy's system. And MC plays in a relatively good district. Cen10 has only beat tier 20 or below teams and plays in a horrible league. It doesn't make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Las Vegas_JC said: Miami Central lost by 9 to IMG. A solid tier 1 team. And the most probable MNC. Cen10 lost by 21 to IMG. MC beat Gorman. A solid tier 2 team in Sammy's system. And MC plays in a relatively good district. Cen10 has only beat tier 20 or below teams and plays in a horrible league. It doesn't make sense. LVJC is our resident Cen10 hater. Never fails to dissapoint 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: LVJC is our resident Cen10 hater. Never fails to dissapoint Dude I dont think he's hating... I think he's saying the same thing that even our local Cen10 fan has been saying... Outside of IMG.... Cen10 has played NO ONE! But you have them tier 1... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Dude I dont think he's hating... I think he's saying the same thing that even our local Cen10 fan has been saying... Outside of IMG.... Cen10 has played NO ONE! But you have them tier 1... Its a place holder for 11/24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Its a place holder for 11/24 Ok so Cen10 can be tier 1 lacking any test outside IMG based off legacy alone basically? Any other team gets that treatment? No? I'd assume not... No wonder CA teams get special ranking treatment. teams in CA have 2 years held under them... which is BS... So while everyine else is fighting for their ranking you guys get the benefit of a doubt because of what you did within a 2 year span... Its absolute BS... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Ok so Cen10 can be tier 1 lacking any test outside IMG based off legacy alone basically? Any other team gets that treatment? No? I'd assume not... No wonder CA teams get special ranking treatment. teams in CA have 2 years held under them... which is BS... So while everyine else is fighting for their ranking you guys get the benefit of a doubt because of what you did within a 2 year span... Its absolute BS... Pick your poll. All of them have Cen10 in tier 1. Just because the USA beats the sh*t out of #245 ranked ISIS, and has never fought #2 China, doen't mean the USA isn't in Tier 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Pick your poll. All of them have Cen10 in tier 1. Just because the USA beats the sh*t out of #245 ranked ISIS, and has never fought #2 China, doen't mean the USA isn't in Tier 1 Just because the majority believes they're top 10 in the nation doesnt mean they're right... Cen10 lost by 20 to IMG... the only real threat on there schedule. I'm not gonna give them credit for a game on 11/24 a game that may very well not even happen... That one statement you made killed your credibility with me... As much hell as I give the CIF playoff system I will give it some credit you cant easily predict the socal playoff bracket... unless Cen10 has the easiest path of all 4 relevent teams in the playoffs... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Just because the majority believes they're top 10 in the nation doesnt mean they're right... Cen10 lost by 20 to IMG... the only real threat on there schedule. I'm not gonna give them credit for a game on 11/24 a game that may very well not even happen... That one statement you made killed your credibility with me... As much hell as I give the CIF playoff system I will give it some credit you cant easily predict the socal playoff bracket... unless Cen10 has the easiest path of all 4 relevent teams in the playoffs... I watched the Game. Cen10 was pwning IMG before the QB got hurt. Even after, IMG couldn't put them away till late in the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: I watched the Game. Cen10 was pwning IMG before the QB got hurt. Even after, IMG couldn't put them away till late in the game Where we watching the same IMG-Cen10 game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Where we watching the same IMG-Cen10 game? Go study for your finals and tune in for the Cen10 SJB game on 11/24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Because what I saw was Cen10 get outright beat after Mckee got injured... matter a fact didnt Cen10 lose 3 QB's in that game... And thats another thing... if you break down like a station wagon after 1 player goes out then you need work... Injuries arent something we like to see but it happens unfortunately... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: LVJC is our resident Cen10 hater. Never fails to dissapoint Notice theres quite a few people that have an issue with Cen10 at tier 1. But your bias keeps them there, so stop with the false claims. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.miami305 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Las Vegas_JC said: Miami Central lost by 9 to IMG. A solid tier 1 team. And the most probable MNC. Cen10 lost by 21 to IMG. MC beat Gorman. A solid tier 2 team in Sammy's system. And MC plays in a relatively good district. Cen10 has only beat tier 20 or below teams and plays in a horrible league. It doesn't make sense. Having Central in front of MNW is crazy. MNW is the better team with the better QB. Both should be tier 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I’m biased admittedly and I think Cen10 is tier 1. Playoffs are starting so they will have a chance to back it up the next 4-5 weeks. Yes they lost to IMG withoutout McKee but it’s still a loss that needs to be held against them so go ahead and put them in tier 2 for now. Cen10 will beat Bosco in the semifinals. Although MD is favored it would not be a huge shocker if Cen10 beats them in the finals. That is how good I think Cen10 is and I have seen every MD game this year and about 5 Cen10 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 12 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Few issues.... Cen10 is tier 1 based on what? I like Cen10 but dude they've played no one thats even been remotely on par with them since IMG... Tier 2 at best... AHP? Very Questionable... 5 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: I’m biased admittedly and I think Cen10 is tier 1. Playoffs are starting so they will have a chance to back it up the next 4-5 weeks. Yes they lost to IMG withoutout McKee but it’s still a loss that needs to be held against them so go ahead and put them in tier 2 for now. Cen10 will beat Bosco in the semifinals. Although MD is favored it would not be a huge shocker if Cen10 beats them in the finals. That is how good I think Cen10 is and I have seen every MD game this year and about 5 Cen10 games. HOW are they gonna back it up? They only have the POTENTIAL to play three or four teams in the WHOLE FRICKIN STATE, who are half ass decent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: Notice theres quite a few people that have an issue with Cen10 at tier 1. But your bias keeps them there, so stop with the false claims. NOW SERIOUSLY! Does ANYBODY in the RIGHT MIND, think that routinely, there are three or four teams from SOCAL, in the NATIONAL TOP 10? It has been that way for thirty frickin years, EVERY year! Exhibit A, 1994: Colquitt was #3 in USA TODAY! #1 and #2 were from CALIFORNIA! And it has been that way since your boys were still in your tiddy whiteys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, ORabidOne said: HOW are they gonna back it up? They only have the POTENTIAL to play three or four teams in the WHOLE FRICKIN STATE, who are half ass decent! You just answered your own question.... they could be playing Bosco, MD and DLS in consecutive weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Bodysurf said: You just answered your own question.... they could be playing Bosco, MD and DLS in consecutive weeks. He's a coke head dont bother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Mr.miami305 said: Having Central in front of MNW is crazy. MNW is the better team with the better QB. Both should be tier 2. Huh? Common opponent IMG blanked MNW and then MNW went on to lose to nobody Norland You would never see Cen10 lose to a non Top 25 team. Ever Nobody Norland is a "27" swipe" team. thats how many times I had to swipe my phone to scroll down the Cal preps ratings to find Norland 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb72 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Think you've got Louisiana about right, Calpreps says Evangel is a touchdown better than West Monroe and less than a TD between WM and JC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Bodysurf said: I’m biased admittedly and I think Cen10 is tier 1. Playoffs are starting so they will have a chance to back it up the next 4-5 weeks. Yes they lost to IMG withoutout McKee but it’s still a loss that needs to be held against them so go ahead and put them in tier 2 for now. Cen10 will beat Bosco in the semifinals. Although MD is favored it would not be a huge shocker if Cen10 beats them in the finals. That is how good I think Cen10 is and I have seen every MD game this year and about 5 Cen10 games. Nobody is saying that Cen10 can't earn their way to a theoretical tier 1 status. At this point they have not earned. If they beat an ok SJB and a really good MD then they could potentially reach tier 1. That's fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 The thing is Cen10 hasnt EARNED Tier 1 status. All of the arguments keep using the words "they will beat...". But they haven't. So they aren't Tier 1 yet. Tier 2 MAYBE. Probably Tier 3 with the evidence we have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Where is Brookwood GA in the Tiers? They are 8-2 ... their 2 losses... a 8-point loss to Tier 2 Archer. Thats a Tier 3 type loss. And a 7-point loss to Tier-3 Walton. Thats a Tier 4 type loss. And they have a 17 point win over Tier 4 Colquitt Co. At worst Brookwood is playing like a Tier 4 team. They were a Top 3-5 preseason team in GA because of 10 returning starters on a very good D. They lost to Archer in the 1st game of the season 25-17... but it wasnt known then that Archer was as good as they are, so some discounted Brookwood. But since then theyve lost to 10-0 Tier 3 Walton 42-35 and beaten Tier 4 Colquitt Co. 42-25. Brookwood also has the largest MoV victory over Norcross. Norcross is 5-5 but has played one of the most difficult schedules in Georgia. Losing to Brookwood by 22, "Tier 4" North Gwinnett by 21, "Tier 2" Archer by 3, "Tier 4" Colquitt by 3 .. plus a solid Parkview team by 3. Meaning Brookwood beat Norcross by more than North Gwinnett, Archer, & Colquitt... who are all in your Tiers. They share another common opponent, South Gwinnett, with.. Archer, Grayson, 10-0 and GA Top10 South Forsyth, Top 250 Hillgrove, and Top 400 Newton. Brookwood beat them worst than everyone but Grayson. If thats not an argument for Tier 4 status, then idk what could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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