ECHS05 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Here we go, the 1st Round of the Pick 'Em Playoffs... aka Week 12... 16 games to pick from this week. I went through and listed every good game and I saw and narrowed from there... I got rid of quite a few good ones, so 16 is as good as I can do as far as narrowing it down. ***In case of any ties, the GotW is: East (Salt Lake City) UT vs. Lone Peak UT... so pick the total points scored in that game and post the # beside your winner.*** Week 12/1st Rd of Playoffs Pick 'Em Games: Hamilton AZ @ Perry AZ ***AZ 6A Quarterfinals*** Servite CA @ Mission Viejo CA ***CA SS-D1 Round*** Orange Lutheran CA @ Chaminade CA ***CA SS-D1 1st Round*** JSerra CA @ Long Beach Poly CA ***CA SS-D1 1st Round*** Cardinal Gibbons FL @ Jones FL ***FL 5A 1st Round*** Mililani HI vs. St. Louis HI ***HI D1-Open Semifinals***(@ Aloha Stadium) Naperville Central IL @ Maine South IL ***IL 8A Quarterfinals*** Loyola Academy IL @ Marist IL ***IL 8A Quarterfinals*** (11/11) Center Grove IN @ Avon IN ***IN 6A Quarterfinals*** DeMatha MD @ St. John's DC ***WCAC 1st Round*** (11/11) Gonzaga DC @ Good Counsel MD ***WCAC 1st Round*** Christian Brothers MO @ Eureka MO ***MO Class 6 Semifinals*** Mentor OH @ St. Edward OH ***OH D1 2nd Round*** Pickerington North OH @ Centerville OH ***OH D1 2nd Round*** East (Salt Lake City) UT vs. Lone Peak UT ***UT 6A Semifinals*** (@ U. Of Utah) Appleton North WI @ Kimberly WI ***WI D1 Semifinals*** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 A couple good OH games here but no iggy-Euclid & HB -PC? still good selection 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: A couple good OH games here but no iggy-Euclid & HB -PC? still good selection 😀 I had HB-PC... was the last one I took off. And Euclid? Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, ECHS05 said: I had HB-PC... was the last one I took off. And Euclid? Meh. You might be surprised Ronald Lee Euclid broke Robert Smiths all time record Euclid big O team like Mentor could be some upsets in OH temp to be 28-30 and sleet/ice/snow run game will be big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Are we doing head to head matchups or will the Top 8 highest scoring players go thru to the next round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, CCBlackhatter said: Are we doing head to head matchups or will the Top 8 highest scoring players go thru to the next round? Where's the commish when you need one?😀 Very confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: Where's the commish when you need one?😀 Very confusing Right!? He is probably schemeing on how to put 30 California teams in the Top 3 Tears. I would prefer we do head to head (1v16, 2v15, etc). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Right!? He is probably schemeing on how to put 30 California teams in the Top 3 Tears. I would prefer we do head to head (1v16, 2v15, etc). 6 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: Where's the commish when you need one?😀 Very confusing We dont need Samantha to come up with a good playoff system... Californians know nothing about having a good playoff system... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: We dont need Samantha to come up with a good playoff system... Californians know nothing about having a good playoff system... Ah ECH in charge here😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: Ah ECH in charge here😆 Im trying to ignore it... But it bugs me to know ends that you have a team like this in the playoffs: No league wins... But there in... And then LBP and Cen10 compete in leagues with teams that dont even compete in their Division. @CCBlackhatter like I said before essentially LBP and Cen10s league is the equivalent of having Colquitt in a league with Thomasville,Warner Robins,Savannah and Clinch. See the problem with that? They're all different class schools... thats what leagues in CA are like they take teams from 4A,3A,2A and 1A and put them in a league together and when playoffs come they all compete in different divisions... LBP will be D1 Jordan will be D8,etc... League games have no bearing on playoff placement or anything. WHY even have leagues... California really falls hard under the everybody gets a trophy mentality @Eddyr2 @On2whls. @BB bos I respect y'all but the CIF has to fix their mentality... I know everyone wants to see their child get a trophy but thats not how life works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Im trying to ignore it... But it bugs me to know ends that you have a team like this in the playoffs: No league wins... But there in... And then LBP and Cen10 compete in leagues with teams that dont even compete in their Division. @CCBlackhatter like I said before essentially LBP and Cen10s league is the equivalent of having Colquitt in a league with Thomasville,Warner Robins,Savannah and Clinch. See the problem with that? They're all different class schools... thats what leagues in CA are like they take teams from 4A,3A,2A and 1A and put them in a league together and when playoffs come they all compete in different divisions... LBP will be D1 Jordan will be D8,etc... League games have no bearing on playoff placement or anything. WHY even have leagues... California really falls hard under the everybody gets a trophy mentality @Eddyr2 @On2whls. @BB bos I respect y'all but the CIF has to fix their mentality... I know everyone wants to see their child get a trophy but thats not how life works... Max, Cent 10 is legit 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: Max, Cent 10 is legit 😀 No my issue isnt Cen10... Its the concept of their league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, TheMaximumHornetSting said: No my issue isnt Cen10... Its the concept of their league... And point is? every league is about the same, so your issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 I mean at the very least you can put teams in leagues where they all compete in the same class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: I mean at the very least you can put teams in leagues where they all compete in the same class. Demographics sometimes will prevent this from happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Im trying to ignore it... But it bugs me to know ends that you have a team like this in the playoffs: No league wins... But there in... And then LBP and Cen10 compete in leagues with teams that dont even compete in their Division. @CCBlackhatter like I said before essentially LBP and Cen10s league is the equivalent of having Colquitt in a league with Thomasville,Warner Robins,Savannah and Clinch. See the problem with that? They're all different class schools... thats what leagues in CA are like they take teams from 4A,3A,2A and 1A and put them in a league together and when playoffs come they all compete in different divisions... LBP will be D1 Jordan will be D8,etc... League games have no bearing on playoff placement or anything. WHY even have leagues... California really falls hard under the everybody gets a trophy mentality @Eddyr2 @On2whls. @BB bos I respect y'all but the CIF has to fix their mentality... I know everyone wants to see their child get a trophy but thats not how life works... Yep everyone gets a trophy...well except for the 15 teams that don’t in D1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, hardhit1 said: And point is? every league is about the same, so your issue? No they're not thats the problem. Atleast all the TL teams compete in the same Division... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: Demographics sometimes will prevent this from happening What do you mean by demographics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, TheMaximumHornetSting said: What do you mean by demographics? Damn dude your in College look it up different make up of the region, city, county. Some big city or suburban & small schools forming a conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: I mean at the very least you can put teams in leagues where they all compete in the same class. Most leagues are based on school districts and/or geographic locations. Other then the “Catholic leagues” (those leagues also sometimes include protestant schools, ie OLu), the schools in a given league are less then 5 miles from one another to cut down on travel time/cost. Plus these leagues are not just for football. Are you going to have the Cen10 Girl Golf team on a bus for 2 hours both ways on a Tuesday afternoon so they can play a league game vs Poly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: Most leagues are based on school districts and/or geographic locations. Other then the “Catholic leagues” (those leagues also sometimes include protestant schools, ie OLu), the schools in a given league are less then 5 miles from one another to cut down on travel time/cost. Plus these leagues are not just for football. Are you going to have the Cen10 Girl Golf team on a bus for 2 hours both ways on a Tuesday afternoon so they can play a league game vs Poly? Dude we do that... FL does that... TX does that... Dude when I was in HS before Camden Isolated themselves we did that... Academic Bowl,Baseball anything... it didnt matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 I was under the impression that it would be head to head......if we just advance the top 8, then I see no reason why we would need to break the tie for the 16th spot......... And for tiebreakers........how we doing that? I thought that the higher seed would win all tiebreakers, until the finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: trying to ignore it... But it bugs me to know ends that you have a team like this in the playoffs: No league wins... But there in... And then LBP and Cen10 compete in leagues with teams that dont even compete in their Division. @CCBlackhatter like I said before essentially LBP and Cen10s league is the equivalent of having Colquitt in a league with Thomasville,Warner Robins,Savannah and Clinch. See the problem with that? They're all different class schools... thats what leagues in CA are like they take teams from 4A,3A,2A and 1A and put them in a league together and when playoffs come they all compete in different divisions... LBP will be D1 Jordan will be D8,etc... League games have no bearing on playoff placement or anything. WHY even have leagues... California really falls hard under the everybody gets a trophy mentality @Eddyr2 @On2whls. @BB bos I respect y'all but the CIF has to fix their mentality... I know everyone wants to see their child get a trophy but thats not how life works... Here's what I would do, and most CA guys would go nuts but here goes. When playoff bracketing comes around you create a privates/open bracket that would consist of, at a minimum, 6 teams from the 2 private leagues (consisting of both Trinity and Mission) and leave 2 spots open invitation to whichever public schools (in order of ranking) wanted a shot at the most prestigious title. If no schools wanted in, then you simply put in the next 2 teams from the combined privates bracket. You could also make it it that publics like Centennial and Mission Viejo that dominate their leagues year in year out, had to accept the invitation, but I'm pretty sure you will get at least two takers every year. Winner of this 8 team bracket gets to play best team from the North. You then put together a 16 team bracket from the next highest ranked teams. Winner of this bracket gets to be crowned Division 1 Champ. This year, it would look like this. Open/Privates MD Bish Amat Chaminade Upland (accepts invitation if for no other reason than to keep arch rival Rancho out) SJB Santa Margarita Cen 10 (no way they decline invitation) JSerra Div I Bracket Mission Viejo (doesn't want into the Open) Paraclete Murrieta Valley Charter Oak LB Poly Valencia Notre Dame SO OLU Norco Servite Loyola Serra Heritage San Clemente Oaks Christian Rancho Cucamonga (wanted into Open but lost to Upland so.....) Okay this is not perfect, but here's what it does. All the big privates have no easy game and don't get to whip the shit out of much lesser teams. Best publics get a shot at open title. Forces the second wave of privates to test there mettle against publics that are more in line with them. Should eliminate some of the ridiculous round 1 and 2 blowouts. Gives some unheralded teams a shot at glory that is somewhat realistic compared to current system. Sends Vista Murrieta home where they belong. Allows a team like OLU with a questionable record to prove on the turf how good they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Eddyr2 said: Most leagues are based on school districts and/or geographic locations. Other then the “Catholic leagues” (those leagues also sometimes include protestant schools, ie OLu), the schools in a given league are less then 5 miles from one another to cut down on travel time/cost. Plus these leagues are not just for football. Are you going to have the Cen10 Girl Golf team on a bus for 2 hours both ways on a Tuesday afternoon so they can play a league game vs Poly? How do you think it works in Region 1 7A athletics? The closest region game for Colquitt is Tift County. That is 27 miles/30+ minutes away. Lowndes is 48 miles/50+ minutes away. Then you have Camden way down in the swamp that is 145 miles away. When Valdosta was in our region, you would have to make that trip twice in some years. We have fewer region teams now, but it beats those days when I was playing. We had HoCo, Warner Robins, Northside, and Coffee in the region... in addition to Tift, Lowndes and Valdosta. Every sport (except football) visited those schools at least once during the course of their seasons. Those poor JV girl soccer players had to travel 2+ hours round trip on week days in most of their region games. Talk about racking up miles! But you all prefer to beat up the powder puffs on your street while complaining that our region members aren't traveling across the country to kick your butt in football.. Maybe the CIF should ask the ladies golf or soccer coach at Colquitt for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Here we go, the 1st Round of the Pick 'Em Playoffs... aka Week 12... 16 games to pick from this week. I went through and listed every good game and I saw and narrowed from there... I got rid of quite a few good ones, so 16 is as good as I can do as far as narrowing it down. ***In case of any ties, the GotW is: East (Salt Lake City) UT vs. Lone Peak UT... so pick the total points scored in that game and post the # beside your winner.*** Week 12/1st Rd of Playoffs Pick 'Em Games: Hamilton AZ @ Perry AZ ***AZ 6A Quarterfinals*** Servite CA @ Mission Viejo CA ***CA SS-D1 Round*** Orange Lutheran CA @ Chaminade CA ***CA SS-D1 1st Round*** JSerra CA @ Long Beach Poly CA ***CA SS-D1 1st Round*** Cardinal Gibbons FL @ Jones FL ***FL 5A 1st Round*** Mililani HI vs. St. Louis HI ***HI D1-Open Semifinals***(@ Aloha Stadium) Naperville Central IL @ Maine South IL ***IL 8A Quarterfinals*** Loyola Academy IL @ Marist IL ***IL 8A Quarterfinals*** (11/11) Center Grove IN @ Avon IN ***IN 6A Quarterfinals*** DeMatha MD @ St. John's DC ***WCAC 1st Round*** (11/11) Gonzaga DC @ Good Counsel MD ***WCAC 1st Round*** Christian Brothers MO @ Eureka MO ***MO Class 6 Semifinals*** Mentor OH @ St. Edward OH ***OH D1 2nd Round*** Pickerington North OH @ Centerville OH ***OH D1 2nd Round*** East (Salt Lake City) UT vs. Lone Peak UT ***UT 6A Semifinals*** (@ U. Of Utah) Appleton North WI @ Kimberly WI ***WI D1 Semifinals*** It’s head to head with no tie breakers.Highest seed wins all ties to that’s why we had a regular season to reward the best pickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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