Nolebull813 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 The FHSAA met today and approved the proposal submitted by Paragon to have a Florida team or teams participate in the bowl game event. I only saw it on twitter by the FLHSFB handle so it didn't specify location or other states involved. I believe it will take place December 22nd-23rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Other than AHP who is viable? IMG doesn't count. Everyone else will have some losses unless STA goes to sleep against Venice and Venice wins out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 AHP needs to get past Gibbons, but has pole position. Armwood would look in good shape if they run the table. Not sure Venice (if they run the table) can pass a MC or MNW state champ as choice 2 FL if the committee needs 2 FL. 8A, 4A seem unlikely. Viera winning state would be a nice resume also (only loss OT to Cocoa). 8A state winner and likely Cocoa need some upsets (especially in 6A) to get attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, golfaddict1 said: AHP needs to get past Gibbons, but has pole position. Armwood would look in good shape if they run the table. Not sure Venice (if they run the table) can pass a MC or MNW state champ as choice 2 FL if the committee needs 2 FL. 8A, 4A seem unlikely. Viera winning state would be a nice resume also (only loss OT to Cocoa). 8A state winner and likely Cocoa need some upsets (especially in 6A) to get attention. Cocoa hurt their chances with their loss to Rockledge. In 8A, if Vero Beach or Winter Park or Osceola wins out and are champs with undefeated records, then a case could be made for one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think it all depends on who else is going. I'm not sure about any other states approving it yet. Not even the ones who attended last year. I think AHP is the top choice if they win state, but last year AHP couldn't even attend last year because a conflict in scheduling. So it's gonna be a wait and see thing. Plus Val-Dookie went last year as an unranked team because Grayson refused a once in a lifetime trip to 100 players and coaches. And Chandler had 1 or 2 losses as well. So if the top choices from Florida don't pan out, they will take a 1 loss state champ like Cocoa or multiple loss champ like STA or the 6A winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 If they held it at Martin Stadium in Valdosta...Lowndes could probably participate. And...they'd stomp a mudhole in whomever they played. A MUDHOLE !!!!! Rufus>> 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Lowndes would not stomp a mudhole in STA, Armwood, Central, NW, or AHP. Would be good games for sure. Lowdnes looks like a very good team. But they aren't putting 52 on Any of those squads like they did to Coldcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: I think it all depends on who else is going. I'm not sure about any other states approving it yet. Not even the ones who attended last year. I think AHP is the top choice if they win state, but last year AHP couldn't even attend last year because a conflict in scheduling. So it's gonna be a wait and see thing. Plus Val-Dookie went last year as an unranked team because Grayson refused a once in a lifetime trip to 100 players and coaches. And Chandler had 1 or 2 losses as well. So if the top choices from Florida don't pan out, they will take a 1 loss state champ like Cocoa or multiple loss champ like STA or the 6A winner. Please take the 6A winner lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Rufus69 said: If they held it at Martin Stadium in Valdosta...Lowndes could probably participate. And...they'd stomp a mudhole in whomever they played. A MUDHOLE !!!!! Rufus>> I always think of this when you post that, lol. Curtains! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Rufus69 said: If they held it at Martin Stadium in Valdosta...Lowndes could probably participate. And...they'd stomp a mudhole in whomever they played. A MUDHOLE !!!!! Rufus>> How bout lowndes not be such cheap b******* and travel They got the money if they are who they claim to be they will take the challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, 181pl said: Lowndes would not stomp a mudhole in STA, Armwood, Central, NW, or AHP. Would be good games for sure. Lowdnes looks like a very good team. But they aren't putting 52 on Any of those squads like they did to Coldcut. Armwood ain't winning 6a so it won't be them My guess is whoever wins out of MNW/central or AHP or maybe Osecola/venice/viera/lakeland if they win out Being considered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Columbiafan said: How bout lowndes not be such cheap b******* and travel They got the money if they are who they claim to be they will take the challenge Jesus Christ! Boyyyyyy your hatred for lowndes grows everyday, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, FootballGuy said: Jesus Christ! Boyyyyyy your hatred for lowndes grows everyday, doesn't it? They got money to try and steal coaches but too cheap to travel Why would i like them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, DarterBlue said: In 8A, if Vero Beach or Winter Park or Osceola wins out and are champs with undefeated records, then a case could be made for one of them. If it comes down to an undefeated choice Venice vs. 8A, I think Venice gets the nod. Armwood would be tough to exclude winning state undefeated also. Assuming AHP wins out but doesn't accept, in this scenario I think 8A gets the 3rd spot here. If national ranking trumps undefeated, then it gets that much harder for a possible 8A champ imo. Viera, MNW and MC in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: I think it all depends on who else is going. I'm not sure about any other states approving it yet. Not even the ones who attended last year. I think AHP is the top choice if they win state, but last year AHP couldn't even attend last year because a conflict in scheduling. So it's gonna be a wait and see thing. Plus Val-Dookie went last year as an unranked team because Grayson refused a once in a lifetime trip to 100 players and coaches. And Chandler had 1 or 2 losses as well. So if the top choices from Florida don't pan out, they will take a 1 loss state champ like Cocoa or multiple loss champ like STA or the 6A winner. That's the key thing Not all top teams will accept so they don't have to be undefeated to go just win state and there will be consideration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: If it comes down to an undefeated choice Venice vs. 8A, I think Venice gets the nod. Armwood would be tough to exclude winning state undefeated also. Assuming AHP wins out but doesn't accept, in this scenario I think 8A gets the 3rd spot here. If national ranking trumps undefeated, then it gets that much harder for a possible 8A champ imo. Viera, MNW and MC in play. If armwood wins state maybe but i don't see them winning 6a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: If it comes down to an undefeated choice Venice vs. 8A, I think Venice gets the nod. Armwood would be tough to exclude winning state undefeated also. Assuming AHP wins out but doesn't accept, in this scenario I think 8A gets the 3rd spot here. If national ranking trumps undefeated, then it gets that much harder for a possible 8A champ imo. Viera, MNW and MC in play. Oh and Venice lost to img Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: If it comes down to an undefeated choice Venice vs. 8A, I think Venice gets the nod. Armwood would be tough to exclude winning state undefeated also. Assuming AHP wins out but doesn't accept, in this scenario I think 8A gets the 3rd spot here. If national ranking trumps undefeated, then it gets that much harder for a possible 8A champ imo. Viera, MNW and MC in play. Agree on Venice if they win over STA and Viera. Armwood will not win 6A. They have put up more impressive teams against the Miami North powers in the past and failed. This year will be no different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: They got money to try and steal coaches but too cheap to travel Why would i like them? So you gonna hate them forever over something so petty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, FootballGuy said: So you gonna hate them forever over something so petty? No I'm holding it over there head until they prove otherwise If they have money to try and steal coaches they have money to travel When they step up and travel to play elite teams I'll gain a little respect for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Agree on Venice if they win over STA and Viera. Armwood will not win 6A. They have put up more impressive teams against the Miami North powers in the past and failed. This year will be no different. Armwood is always over ranked They are solid but would have 4 or 5 losses with the schedule of MNW or Miami Central or other South Florida powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Columbiafan said: Armwood is always over ranked They are solid but would have 4 or 5 losses with the schedule of MNW or Miami Central or other South Florida powers Four or five may be a little much. But they would certainly lose more than a couple. In the early 2000s, Armwood had two or three really good teams that would have beaten almost anyone in Florida. To me it's amazing that they have been able to live off those years for well over a decade despite getting exposed, time and time again, in the state title game, if not before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Four or five may be a little much. But they would certainly lose more than a couple. In the early 2000s, Armwood had two or three really good teams that would have beaten almost anyone in Florida. To me it's amazing that they have been able to live off those years for well over a decade despite getting exposed, time and time again, in the state title game, if not before. Well MNW played img, central, Carol City and Miami Norland Central played img, bishop Gorman, MNW, Carol city and Miami Norland I think it's possible any of the teams listed could defeat armwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 31 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Oh and Venice lost to img Good catch, forgot about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, 181pl said: Other than AHP who is viable? IMG doesn't count. Everyone else will have some losses unless STA goes to sleep against Venice and Venice wins out. WHY would AHP be viable? They could have EASILY LOST to a team that Colquitt put a RUNNING CLOCK on! Wonder how many crying rooms and safe houses you turds would need, if a 12-3 Colquitt, went down there a kicked the shit outta AHP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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