School shooting in CA

[HSFBfan]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/14/several-dead-children-wounded-in-shooting-near-california-elementary-school.html

[LiberalDonaldTrump]

Even know people died... I don't think any students were killed

[HSFBfan]

4 minutes ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said:

Even know people died... I don't think any students were killed

but students were wounded

[DarterBlue]

There is something in the water or the air.

It's getting so that this isn't news anymore. Perhaps we should now consider arming anyone over the age of six?

[thc6795]

6 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

There is something in the water or the air.

It's getting so that this isn't news anymore. Perhaps we should now consider arming anyone over the age of six?

its all Trumps fault. Just ask 66

[HSFBfan]

29 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

There is something in the water or the air.

It's getting so that this isn't news anymore. Perhaps we should now consider arming anyone over the age of six?

Ive been saying arm everyone for years. I was reading an article after Texas that said they were gonna arm the Pastor and have armed security 

[TheRealCAJ]

22 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

 

It's getting so that this isn't news anymore. Perhaps we should now consider arming anyone over the age of six?

Yeah, just a part of life. Like going to the dentist, you hate it.

Just file this in the "White House Will Get To It Later" file....wait, there is NO such file and nothing to talk about.

 

[DevilDog]

I am sure this will fall under the % of people that are no more likely to do this than anyone else.  And depending on who it was will determine the responses.  Muslim (ban them); Hispanic (Build wall, Deport);  Black (Thug endemic of their society)

But for the group that actually commit these atrocities:  Lets be silent bow our heads and pray, don't politicize it's too early, and only if the kids in the elementary had guns and finally the dreaded we can't do Nuffin because he has a mental illness.  As if those people in the Church wasn't praying to begin with.   Since we can't do anything about this Group and their love of Weapons, how about we regulate Bullets. Cut down on the grain and types that can be sold over the counter or raise the Price of them to crazy ass levels.  

P.S. Stop the B.S. about the guy who shot that Church Murderer in Texas was a super Hero. That's like saying the death scene clean up crew are Hero's as well.   His weapon did not prevent not one death in that Church and that fool was leaving the scene after killing all that he wanted before he engaged.  Another day in America no less.  But hey you can always bring up Chi-Town.  Yet those fools kill other Gang Bangers not kids in Schools or Churches.   

I am sure this was domestic in nature.  But look on the Bright Side we can't do Nuffin unless it is a member one of the other 3 groups.  Which Concha explained in vivid detail as being just as likely the Perp.  

1.  It's the Religion's Fault

2. Its' democrat's and Sanctuary Cities fault and only Dem's shoot people

3. Just a bunch of Thugs with no fathers

MEANWHILE THE REAL CULPRITS WE GET THIS

4.  We can't Do NuFFIN about Mental Illness:  Lets pray:  Lets arm everyone:  You can't regulate my weaponry:  NRA is my friend:   You know why there are no IED attacks here because we don't let MOFO's buy freaking explosives like candy   

Here is me politicizing this shooting.  Those kids were not Republican or Democrats they were kids and Presidents Obama or Trump didn't have a damn thing to do with it either.  Praying and being silent are not solutions they are conveniences.   You are right you can't do anything about this when as soon as someone tries you run to your Red or Blue Corners for support like a damn Boxer to await on your trainers instruction.  Too damn blind to see that the MOFO whose about to punch will be hitting you not the damn Trainer.    

 

[DarterBlue]

Your post just about sums it up. Nothing more to add. Just another day in the 21st century. Not news or anything. 

[DevilDog]

1 hour ago, DarterBlue said:

Your post just about sums it up. Nothing more to add. Just another day in the 21st century. Not news or anything. 

We know this Terrorist name is Kevin:

The gunman has a history with law enforcement, and Johnston said authorities are aware of a report that he was involved in a domestic violence incident on Monday.

Brian Flint told the Record Searchlight newspaper in the city of Redding that his neighbor, whom he knows only as Kevin, was the gunman and that his roommate was among the victims. He said the shooter also stole his truck.

"The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines," Flint said. "We made it aware that this guy is crazy and he's been threatening us."

Authorities have recovered a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns after the shootings in the rural subdivision described on its website as a "quiet private country community" where "the people are friendly and the pace is relaxed."

Several people were wounded at the school, said Jeanine Quist, an administrative assistant with the Corning Union Elementary School District.

[DevilDog]

What are the odds it would be this guy?   I wonder what Mental Illness drove him to copy all the others.  A bunch of sick MOFO's in this Demographic.   

Mom, it’s all over now,” Kevin Janson Neal’s mother said he told her in their final conversation. “I have done everything I could do and I am fighting against everyone who lives in this area.”

The following day, he donned a ballistic vest, grabbed a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns and went on a 45-minute rampage across Rancho Tehama Reserve.

Kevin Janson Neal

[HSFBfan]

2 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

What are the odds it would be this guy?   I wonder what Mental Illness drove him to copy all the others.  A bunch of sick MOFO's in this Demographic.   

Mom, it’s all over now,” Kevin Janson Neal’s mother said he told her in their final conversation. “I have done everything I could do and I am fighting against everyone who lives in this area.”

The following day, he donned a ballistic vest, grabbed a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns and went on a 45-minute rampage across Rancho Tehama Reserve.

Kevin Janson Neal

What exactly was he fighting against?? 

[DevilDog]

15 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

What exactly was he fighting against?? 

I don't know they always use the Mental Illness excuse.  What is any Terrorist fighting against when they execute innocent people?  I believe you hold everyone accountable.   Clearly they are fighting against something or they wouldn't do these acts.  Unabomber had a manifesto and a lot of these types have some strange ass reasons behind their actions no different than the Muslim Terrorist.

[HSFBfan]

Just now, DevilDog said:

I don't know they always use the Mental Illness excuse.  What is any Terrorist fighting against when they execute innocent people.  I believe you hold everyone accountable.  

I agree but i hate that they use that mental illness excuse because it gives everyone with a mental illness a bad name and there are million of people with someone that are able to function everyday

[DevilDog]

10 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

I agree but i hate that they use that mental illness excuse because it gives everyone with a mental illness a bad name and there are million of people with someone that are able to function everyday

Brother we are on the same page with this.  I hate that damn excuse too and it is getting old and tiring for these actions.  Silence and head bowing clearing isn't putting a dent into these actions the people in that Church in Texas were in Prayer.  Clearly killing innocent people means you are liking in sanity regardless of individual.  But when it is a Muslim I read here Religion of peace strikes again or we have to get rid of these people, Mexican Illegal we get it's the sanctuary city or these people are rapist and murderers deport.  Black men we get all kind of descriptive vitriol against them as a whole.  But this particular type is never an indictment on his society he is always a lone wolf.  I subscribe when a bunch of wolf's do these acts they are in fact wolves and are not lone actors they are part of a bigger illness among this group.  Look up suicides and tell me what you find the same people that commit mass murders commit high instances of suicide.  Clearly there is a problem.  They know they will die by committing these acts it's like suicide by acts.  Same thing.  hmmmmm same damn perpetrator.   If you include suicide stats with murder which it is.  No one comes close to this group of killing fellow Americans.  I have studied it I am in insurance and it is of epidemic proportions.  Is this because of mental Illness as well. 

No one wants to talk about this.

Additional Facts About Suicide in the US

• The annual age-adjusted suicide rate is 13.26 per 100,000 individuals.
• Men die by suicide 3.5x more often than women.
• On average, there are 121 suicides per day.
• White males accounted for 7 of 10 suicides in 2015.
• Firearms account for almost 50% of all suicides.
• The rate of suicide is highest in middle age — white men in particular.

[HSFBfan]

Just now, DevilDog said:

Brother we are on the same page with this.  I hate that damn excuse too and it is getting old and tiring for these actions.  Silence and head bowing clearing isn't putting a dent into these actions the people in that Church in Texas were in Prayer.  Clearly killing innocent people means you are like sanity regardless of individual.  But when it is a Muslim I read here Religion of peace strikes again or we have to get rid of these people, Mexican we get it's the sanctuary city or these people are rapist and murderers deport.  Black men we get all kind of descriptive vitriol against them as a whole.  But this particular type is never an indictment on his society he is always a lone wolf.  I subscribe when a bunch of wolf's do these acts they are in fact wolves and are not lone actors they are part of a bigger illness among this group.  Look up suicides and tell me what you find the same people that commit mass murders commit high instances of suicide.  Clearly there is a problem.  They know they will die by committing these acts it's like suicide by acts.  Same thing.  hmmmmm

On those 2 points when your at war with a certain people( Muslims) and people out there claim that they are a religion of peace but they are out there doing atrocities you really dont want them intermingled in your society. Second thing with the Mexicans when you hear that they are illegal and are committing crimes in this country yes they should be deported. Why should the taxpayers in this country pay for them to rot in our jails for the rest of their lives. Get them out of this country and let their own countries deal with their criminal behavior. If we could deport all criminals somewhere that would be awesome. England used to deport some of their criminals to Australia( The story of it actually inspired a wine company called 16 crimes..check it out). Idk if they are lone wolves or part of some crazy thing. They said Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone wolf and most of us dont believe that. 

[DevilDog]

12 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

On those 2 points when your at war with a certain people( Muslims) and people out there claim that they are a religion of peace but they are out there doing atrocities you really dont want them intermingled in your society. Second thing with the Mexicans when you hear that they are illegal and are committing crimes in this country yes they should be deported. Why should the taxpayers in this country pay for them to rot in our jails for the rest of their lives. Get them out of this country and let their own countries deal with their criminal behavior. If we could deport all criminals somewhere that would be awesome. England used to deport some of their criminals to Australia( The story of it actually inspired a wine company called 16 crimes..check it out). Idk if they are lone wolves or part of some crazy thing. They said Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone wolf and most of us dont believe that. 

I think you should deport (Muslims) and anyone else that is deemed a threat.  There are 1.2 billion Muslims just using reasoning that would mean the majority are peaceful.  2nd anyone illegal should be deported no argument there.  A person of History which I love could just as easily argue that Christianity is Just as violent among the people here than Islam ever was and I am not defending Islam there are some sick bastards in it as well.  There have been over 100 attacks against African American Churches since 1950. I would assume Muslims nor illegal Mexicans didn't commit these acts would those African American Christians be right in demanding that we deport the people that commit those acts or let them rot in Jail. Because clearly someone went to war against them.  Native Americans are Murdered by Cops in a higher % than any race.  Because they have no voice and it is covered up.  If they had an Indians Lives Matter they would be called Terrorist and told to shut up.  I would assume they are not being shot by Illegals or Muslims.  See how you can look at things differently when you look at the whole picture and not the part that we find palatable.   A brown skinned man screaming Allahu Akbar is a Terrorist a white skinned man screaming you all will die in a church has a mental illness.  WTF reasoning is that. One you create fear of the other you sanitize his actions.   Though both acts are equally egregious.  

 

[HSFBfan]

2 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

I think you should deport (Muslims) and anyone else that is deemed a threat.  There are 1.2 billion Muslims just using reasoning that would mean the majority are peaceful.  2nd anyone illegal should be deported no argument there.  A person of History which I love could just as easily argue that Christianity is a violent among the people here than Islam ever was and I am not defending Islam there are some sick bastards in it as well.  There have been over 100 attacks against African American Churches since 1950. I would assume Muslims nor illegal Mexicans didn't commit these acts would those African American Christians be right in demanding that we deport the people that commit those acts or let them rot in Jail. Because clearly someone went to war against them.  Native Americans are Murdered by Cops in a higher % than any race.  Because they have no voice and it is covered up.  If they had an Indians Lives Matter they would be called Terrorist and told to shut up.  I would assume they are not being shot by Illegals or Muslims.  See how you can look at things differently when you look at the whole picture and not the part that we find palatable.  

Were talking about today not in the past of 70 years ago to go back to 1950. Christianity did have its big moments of violence with the crusades and such. Yes its true more people have died in the name of religion than anything else. Maybe we should stop all religions from practicing and we can all become non believers and maybe that would be more peaceful. 

[DevilDog]

4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

Were talking about today not in the past of 70 years ago to go back to 1950. Christianity did have its big moments of violence with the crusades and such. Yes its true more people have died in the name of religion than anything else. Maybe we should stop all religions from practicing and we can all become non believers and maybe that would be more peaceful. 

I said since 1950.   How far back would make it palatable for you and I will see if it is palatable for me.

How about since 1990 is that recent enough sir.  More than 30 were burned in an 18 month period in 1995-1996. and over 52 since then. Are these not Terroristic attacks and who are the Perps of these acts? The so called followers of Peace.  You see how one looks at things differently

 

[ResidentTroll]

3 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Brother we are on the same page with this.  I hate that damn excuse too 

But this particular type is never an indictment on his society he is always a lone wolf. 

They know they will die by committing these acts it's like suicide by acts.  Same thing.  hmmmmm

1. Same page here.

2. Maybe he just does not REALLY reflect the value's of the society that is obviously now rejecting him... as those acts would never be 'accepted' in that group...

....and maybe others bound by some tribal obligation, see attacks on their own criminal's acts as something other than they really are (given the vitriol) .

3. Yet, when one is at the point of committing suicide, you would normally espouse that we analyze what 'societal oppression' drove him to such a desperate act ?  Why does the 'white perp' get no love from your lips?  Could he not be 'wronged' or  'oppressed' by not being part of a 'favored minority' group?...... Not even in his 'deranged mind'?   

 

You say/post a lot of unfiltered racist trash, which may or may not be your true beliefs, but if/when you are serious, I would suggest checking out your posts in a mirror before you press 'post'......probably your best bet.

[HSFBfan]

Just now, DevilDog said:

I said since 1950.   How far back would make it palatable for you and I will see if it is palatable for me.

How about since 1990 is that recent enough sir.  More than 30 were burned in an 18 month period in 1995-1996. and over 52 since then. Are these not Terroristic attacks and who are the Perps of these acts?

 

I was 9 years old man in 1995. I was having fun in recess. So your gonna have to excuse me there and inform me

[NorCalRuss]

48 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

What are the odds it would be this guy?   I wonder what Mental Illness drove him to copy all the others.  A bunch of sick MOFO's in this Demographic.   

Mom, it’s all over now,” Kevin Janson Neal’s mother said he told her in their final conversation. “I have done everything I could do and I am fighting against everyone who lives in this area.”

The following day, he donned a ballistic vest, grabbed a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns and went on a 45-minute rampage across Rancho Tehama Reserve.

Kevin Janson Neal

You sure do like using this demographic thing with these mass shootings. 

Crazy thing is you and I would both be safer living amongst that demographic than your own. 

 

[DevilDog]

Just now, HSFBfan said:

I was 9 years old man in 1995. I was having fun in recess. So your gonna have to excuse me there and inform me

I am amazed that such a young man is willingly to engage.  Impressive.  Study and get back with me.   You have a blessed day and be in peace sir. 

[DevilDog]

7 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said:

You sure do like using this demographic thing with these mass shootings. 

Crazy thing is you and I would both be safer living amongst that demographic than your own. 

 

I live among this demographic and I don't need your assessment to let me know which one would make me safer.  My demographic would be an African American Male age 40-55.  You don't wan't to compare them do you.  With suicide and Murder rates you are incorrect.  Care to make a bet on that.   African Americans in my demographic would be a helluva lot safer than the one I actually live among.

But believe what you want.  14K murdered themselves not including them killing others.  I live in the real world.  You're not as pristine as you preach to everyone else. 

In 2014, more than 14,000 middle-aged white people killed themselves.

That figure is double the combined suicides total for all blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, American Indians, and Alaska Natives.

The suicide rate declined for only two groups: black men and all people over 75.

Anyone that will kill himself damn sure will kill others

[HSFBfan]

Just now, DevilDog said:

I am amazed that such a young man is willingly to engage.  Impressive.  Study and get back with me.   You have a blessed day and be in peace sir. 

If you dont engage you dont learn.