DBP66 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Could the crazy man's days be numbered..... House Dems introduce impeachment articles against Trump KEVIN FREKING,Associated Press 36 minutes ago WASHINGTON (AP) — A half-dozen Democrats on Wednesday introduced articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, accusing him of obstruction of justice and other offenses, in a long-shot effort that stands little chance in the Republican-led House. Indeed, the large majority of Democrats seem intent on having nothing to do with the effort either as lawmakers await the results of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Democratic leaders have argued that the impeachment campaign riles up Trump's GOP base, a critical bloc in next year's midterm elections. The five articles accused the president of obstruction of justice related to the FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, undermining the independence of the federal judiciary and other offenses. "We have taken this action because of great concerns for the country and our Constitution and our national security and our democracy," Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., said at a news conference to announce the effort. Cohen said he understands that Republicans hold the majority in the House and are unlikely to allow hearings on the impeachment articles. He said the group will hold occasional briefings to explain each of the five articles of impeachment and where they believe Trump ran afoul of the law or committed misdeeds that warrant impeachment. The obstruction of justice allegation stems from Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey, which the lawmakers say was designed to delay and impede an investigation. The articles of impeachment also charge that Trump has accepted without the consent of Congress emoluments from foreign states and from the U.S. government. Finally, the articles of impeachment allege he has undermined the federal judiciary and the freedom of the press. Cohen and other leaders of the impeachment effort disagreed that their effort could hurt Democrats in next year's congressional elections. "I think the Democratic base needs to be activated. The Democratic base needs to know there are members of Congress willing to stand up against this president," Cohen said. Other lawmakers who have signed onto to the resolution are Democratic Reps. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, Al Green of Texas, Marcia Fudge of Ohio, Adriano Espaillat of New York and John Yarmuth of Kentucky. Gutierrez said he wasn't afraid to support the resolution despite the concerns of some fellow Democrats. "I see a crime and I have a responsibility to dial 911 immediately. I don't call and try to reach consensus with all my neighbors and all my friends and those whose opinion I might seek out," Gutierrez said. A spokesman for the Republican National Committee criticized the effort. "House Democrats lack a positive message and are completely unwilling to work across the aisle, so instead they've decided to support a baseless radical effort that the vast majority of Americans disagree with," said spokesman Michael Ahrens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I doubt he’s overly concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Fucking moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamarfan Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 You know the better Trump is doing the harder the low class and idiotic Democrats want him gone. He's here to stay Fuktards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 hours ago, DBP66 said: Could the crazy man's days be numbered..... House Dems introduce impeachment articles against Trump KEVIN FREKING,Associated Press 36 minutes ago WASHINGTON (AP) — A half-dozen Democrats on Wednesday introduced articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, accusing him of obstruction of justice and other offenses, in a long-shot effort that stands little chance in the Republican-led House. Indeed, the large majority of Democrats seem intent on having nothing to do with the effort either as lawmakers await the results of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Democratic leaders have argued that the impeachment campaign riles up Trump's GOP base, a critical bloc in next year's midterm elections. The five articles accused the president of obstruction of justice related to the FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, undermining the independence of the federal judiciary and other offenses. "We have taken this action because of great concerns for the country and our Constitution and our national security and our democracy," Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., said at a news conference to announce the effort. Cohen said he understands that Republicans hold the majority in the House and are unlikely to allow hearings on the impeachment articles. He said the group will hold occasional briefings to explain each of the five articles of impeachment and where they believe Trump ran afoul of the law or committed misdeeds that warrant impeachment. The obstruction of justice allegation stems from Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey, which the lawmakers say was designed to delay and impede an investigation. The articles of impeachment also charge that Trump has accepted without the consent of Congress emoluments from foreign states and from the U.S. government. Finally, the articles of impeachment allege he has undermined the federal judiciary and the freedom of the press. Cohen and other leaders of the impeachment effort disagreed that their effort could hurt Democrats in next year's congressional elections. "I think the Democratic base needs to be activated. The Democratic base needs to know there are members of Congress willing to stand up against this president," Cohen said. Other lawmakers who have signed onto to the resolution are Democratic Reps. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, Al Green of Texas, Marcia Fudge of Ohio, Adriano Espaillat of New York and John Yarmuth of Kentucky. Gutierrez said he wasn't afraid to support the resolution despite the concerns of some fellow Democrats. "I see a crime and I have a responsibility to dial 911 immediately. I don't call and try to reach consensus with all my neighbors and all my friends and those whose opinion I might seek out," Gutierrez said. A spokesman for the Republican National Committee criticized the effort. "House Democrats lack a positive message and are completely unwilling to work across the aisle, so instead they've decided to support a baseless radical effort that the vast majority of Americans disagree with," said spokesman Michael Ahrens. georgie once again searching for his daily woodie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 I wonder what Donny thinks about this? Somehow I think he has more important things occupying his time... But i have to wonder...Is this a Dem/Rep thingy for you, or is it strictly just Trump? Because the only two presidents I know that ever got Impeached were Dems...how did that work out for them? If history is any indication, your proposition that Trump would be worried is shall we say..... 'lacking something'....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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noonereal Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 hours ago, thc6795 said: Fucking moron obviously but still this impeachment thing will go nowhere you cant be impeached for being a moron and the real issue, his narcissism, will be impossible to prove and then tie to his actions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 hours ago, aZjimbo said: georgie once again searching for his daily woodie. No James...just another headline for you Trumpers to digest...and don't forget you also have the ad on TV running to impeach your boy...I guess he's doing such a great job huh?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 hours ago, ResidentTroll said: I wonder what Donny thinks about this? Somehow I think he has more important things occupying his time... But i have to wonder...Is this a Dem/Rep thingy for you, or is it strictly just Trump? Because the only two presidents I know that ever got Impeached were Dems...how did that work out for them? If history is any indication, your proposition that Trump would be worried is shall we say..... 'lacking something'....... yea..another Nothing Burger...worry?...naa...he's doing a great job and his poll numbers reflect that...you feel better now?..I bet Donny doesn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, DBP66 said: No James...just another headline for you Trumpers to digest...and don't forget you also have the ad on TV running to impeach your boy...I guess he's doing such a great job huh?... And how many times did the looney left want to impeach Rino GWB? Same old political BS. The useless GOP was always talking about doing the same to communist barry hussein. See where that went? So relax, go hunting and kill some innocent animals and drive your Prius off into the sunset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, DBP66 said: yea..another Nothing Burger...worry?...naa...he's doing a great job and his poll numbers reflect that...you feel better now?..I bet Donny doesn't... Most people that voted for him did it believing that they were electing a 'businessman' not a politician... Business is going pretty well....Politics?...well the politicians are STILL doing as they always have... Don't see him losing any votes here, no matter how you read your 'proven winner' popularity polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, ResidentTroll said: Most people that voted for him did it believing that they were electing a 'businessman' Business is going pretty well.. I think it's pretty clear his business deals were not what we typically think of as admirable and productive. He was more a shyster, just barely staying on the right side of the law. Not a businessman that we would admire and study in school. As to it going pretty well. Wayyyyyy to early to call but I'd suggest that under the surface he is peddling the working man backward for the enrichment of the non working investor class. I am pretty worried about the effects of the USA First campaign. Again, to early to call but Trump may just be the best thing that ever happened to China. It sure looks that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, noonereal said: I think it's pretty clear his business deals were not what we typically think of as admirable and productive. He was more a shyster, just barely staying on the right side of the law. Not a businessman that we would admire and study in school. As to it going pretty well. Wayyyyyy to early to call but I'd suggest that under the surface he is peddling the working man backward for the enrichment of the non working investor class. I am pretty worried about the effects of the USA First campaign. Again, to early to call but Trump may just be the best thing that ever happened to China. It sure looks that way. FWIW, blue collar wages have risen this year at the fastest pace in over a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, noonereal said: I think it's pretty clear his business deals were not what we typically think of as admirable and productive. He was more a shyster, just barely staying on the right side of the law. Not a businessman that we would admire and study in school. As to it going pretty well. Wayyyyyy to early to call but I'd suggest that under the surface he is peddling the working man backward for the enrichment of the non working investor class. I am pretty worried about the effects of the USA First campaign. Again, to early to call but Trump may just be the best thing that ever happened to China. It sure looks that way. sounds like your "opinion in search of facts" thing your always talking about... Business is hardball (classroom is softball in a liberal fiefdom), the 'shyster' label you paint as deficient is NOT the insult you think it is, when asking someone who they want as a proxy in business dealings with foreign enemies.....proof is in the pudding, this was all known by the voters going in, you think it was not? YES business is VERY GOOD today...every 401K says so TODAY...how long are you thinking people will delay in passing judgement? The evidence that YOU are 'worried' about China is noted for posterity though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, zulu1128 said: FWIW, blue collar wages have risen this year at the fastest pace in over a decade. Good to know. I'll look for a link so I can reason as to why without the "spin." Off the top of my head, it could be the short term effect of demand for labor now that business is more free. (I am not sure how I feel about the new found business freedoms Trump brings as there are always consequences) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, ResidentTroll said: sounds like your "opinion in search of facts" thing your always talking about... could be, I am certainly not above human nature Quote Business is hardball (classroom is softball in a liberal fiefdom), the 'shyster' label you paint as deficient is NOT the insult you think it is, when asking someone who they want as a proxy in business dealings with foreign enemies.....proof is in the pudding, this was all known by the voters going in, you think it was not? Voters know VERY little. You know this to be true. Quote YES business is VERY GOOD today...every 401K says so TODAY...how long are you thinking people will delay in passing judgement? Then, why do we need a tax cut? Quote The evidence that YOU are 'worried' about China is noted for posterity though. No, no, no. I think we'll see effects fairly quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, noonereal said: Voters know VERY little. You know this to be true. Then, why do we need a tax cut? No, no, no. I think we'll see effects fairly quickly. yes, the voters 'knowledge' can be considered suspect. Probably why the constant propaganda exists (both sides). But one could also posit that many can see thru the propaganda...what then? I don't know about you, but my daily 'take home' is overtaxed. As the 'cash flow' used by most for daily expenses are not immediately helped by their 401k's, I don't see it as such a bad idea. How many years do you think we should go without major tax reform....do you think we are not overdue? If your betting China results will be worse than the last decade, i would have to question 'why' or what is driving these fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, noonereal said: Good to know. I'll look for a link so I can reason as to why without the "spin." Off the top of my head, it could be the short term effect of demand for labor now that business is more free. (I am not sure how I feel about the new found business freedoms Trump brings as there are always consequences) That's exactly what it is...although it's likely not "short term." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, ResidentTroll said: Most people that voted for him did it believing that they were electing a 'businessman' not a politician... Business is going pretty well....Politics?...well the politicians are STILL doing as they always have... Don't see him losing any votes here, no matter how you read your 'proven winner' popularity polls. I'd like to think most people voted for him because of his non-political status and his "drain the swamp" idea...he didn't drain a thing in fact it got worse when one of his Secretary Thompson had to resign for flying around on private jets on taxpayers dime...and then he hired half of Wall St. to run the country.... Politicians are doing what they always have huh...how does that apply to Trump..is he getting along with his own party...things are smooth these days in the republican House and Senate?....bills are getting passed?..exc... not losing any votes?...because he's doing such a good job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: I'd like to think most people voted for him because of his non-political status and his "drain the swamp" idea...he didn't drain a thing in fact it got worse...when one of his Secretary Thompson had to resign for flying around on private jets on taxpayers dime...and then he hired half of Wall St. to run the country.... interesting opinion..but i guess it boils down to perspective...If you are/were a Trump 'supporter' and wanted to believe 'all was good', you would view those 'quick firings' as proof that the man they voted for (you know... the 'yer FIRED!' apprentice 'king boss') is doin' the job they EXPECTED ....they would not even see it as a 'resignation'..... also while they might not appreciate wall street as much as the left projects, I don't think they would find it that 'odd' that the team he brought in were 'big business' not 'big career politicians'....again exactly WHAT they voted for and what everyone was expecting........That he's 'followed thru and 'made good' in these minds certainly loses no votes.. By comparison, If you were an Anti-Trumper and wanted to believe that 'all is bad'....well..I guess your left with starting threads like this one 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: Politicians are doing what they always have huh...how does that apply to Trump..is he getting along with his own party...things are smooth these days in the republican House and Senate?....bills are getting passed?..exc... He's not getting along (You the only one surprised?).....Yup the very definition of...."Politicians are doing what they always have huh?".... at least in 'their' minds 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: not losing any votes?...because he's doing such a good job? Exactly! now you got it....their $401K's talk louder than you do .... Thinking about it now.....he may have even picked up a few votes LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, ResidentTroll said: interesting opinion..but i guess it boils down to perspective...If you are/were a Trump 'supporter' and wanted to believe 'all was good', you would view those 'quick firings' as proof that the man they voted for (you know... the 'yer FIRED!' apprentice 'king boss') is doin' the job they EXPECTED ....they would not even see it as a 'resignation'..... also while they might not appreciate wall street as much as the left projects, I don't think they would find it that 'odd' that the team he brought in were 'big business' not 'big career politicians'....again exactly WHAT they voted for and what everyone was expecting........That he's 'followed thru and 'made good' in these minds certainly loses no votes.. By comparison, If you were an Anti-Trumper and wanted to believe that 'all is bad'....well..I guess your left with starting threads like this one He's not getting along (You the only one surprised?).....Yup the very definition of...."Politicians are doing what they always have huh?".... at least in 'their' minds Exactly! now you got it....their $401K's talk louder than you do .... Thinking about it now.....he may have even picked up a few votes LOL so he should get credit for firing a guy he should have never hired in the first place in Sec. Thompson?....interesting way to look at it... I know everyone's 401K is doing good and people vote with their pocketbooks but you can't ignore what just happened in Virginia...and not everyone has a 401K to admire...and if you look at his polling numbers since he took office they are historically low...this doesn't add up to more votes IMO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentTroll Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, DBP66 said: so he should get credit for firing a guy he should have never hired in the first place in Sec. Thompson?....interesting way to look at it... I know everyone's 401K is doing good and people vote with their pocketbooks but you can't ignore what just happened in Virginia...and not everyone has a 401K to admire...and if you look at his polling numbers since he took office they are historically low...this doesn't add up to more votes IMO.. If any fired staff were there long-term and later found corrupt, I think it's a different story, but yeah the short term stuff (even if higher turnover than other administrations) does not corrode his base as it's what they 'expected'. a good 401K point, but forming opinions based on 'polls' has not been a proven a winning combination lately...has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, ResidentTroll said: a good 401K point, but forming opinions based on 'polls' has not been a proven a winning combination lately...has it. It's more than that. If Trump ran today with his low poll numbers he would be reelected. He has 36% locked up like I have never seen before. Now throw in all the people that don't approve but won't ever vote for a Democrat. Then realize he won the last election with 46% of the vote. Good luck to those that show polls and then claim it means he can't get reelected or that it means people WILL vote for DEms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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