noonereal Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 On 12/23/2017 at 3:43 PM, ECHS05 said: I truly wish DLS would play a legit #35-45 OOS team to show DLS doesnt even belong there. they beat 42 and 73.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 22 hours ago, noonereal said: What stands out to me is no AL, GA or NJ in the comp top 25. This made room for more deserving teams. Good to see. 26 & 30... You may as well let it go, there 2 Top 25 in JawGa. Curious golf... Did you give teams a +5 for making it on a poll? Or any credit? Or still no? Maybe Ill redo the comps... Giving every team a +5 for each poll they made. If not... 1 team can be rated 25th in all 7 polls, and another can be rated 18th in just 1 single poll and that team will be rated high in the comp poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: From those three states, only Rome deserved a T25 ranking. IMO they'd handily beat the other undefeateds like BD, PR, TM, SL, BA, Trinity* or SP, many of whom greatly benefited from an inflated CP ranking in the composite. many of these teams were ranked higher by humans than CAL another thought is, maybe many teams were greatly benefited by human bias in the polls? everything has many perspectives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 12/31/2017 at 4:16 PM, golfaddict1 said: The Prepgridiron forum poll should be out early next week and I will modify this current 7 poll compilation to reflect the final poll entry. The Top 25 record comes from the current comp top 25 listed in this spreadsheet (which will change likely once the last poll is reflected), while the top 100 and top 250 records come from Calpreps ratings. What stands out right away is Brentwood Academy being ranked/rated by 4 of 7 polls, including Massey at #4 and USA Today at #7... yet Brentwood Academy did not face an opponent rated in the top 250. Ben Davis, South Pointe and Trinity were 3 other schools in the top 25 who did not face a top 100 opponent. MaxPreps CalPreps USAToday PrepNation HSFBA Massey PrepForce PrepGridiron # Polls Top 25 Top 100 Top 250 Points Rank Mater Dei 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7 5-0 10-0 13-0 175 1 IMG Academy 2 2 2 3 3 2 2 7 4-0 7-0 7-0 166 2 Allen 3 10 5 2 2 3 6 7 - 3-0 6-0 151 3 AH-Plantation 4 6 3 4 6 10 4 7 - 3-0 6-0 145 4 St Frances Academy 5 4 4 9 8 11 3 7 1-0 1-0 1-0 138 5 Ben Davis 6 11 8 7 7 6 7 7 - - 2-0 130 6 St John Bosco 8 3 14 22 13 5 8 7 2-2 7-2 9-3 109 7 Bishop Gorman 13 13 10 14 9 8 13 7 1-1 1-2 4-2 102 8 South Pointe 7 6 6 5 14 5 - - 1-0 92 9 Pine Richland 10 16 11 8 10 9 6 - 1-0 2-0 92 10 Trinity,KY 9 9 5 4 18 5 - - 3-0 85 11 Chandler 11 13 11 21 5 5 1-1 1-1 3-1 69 12 DLS 25 15 16 23 14 13 16 7 1-2 2-2 4-2 60 13 Brentwood Academy 7 11 4 23 4 - - - 59 14 Corona Centennial 12 12 14 10 4 0-2 2-2 4-2 56 15 Bingham 19 18 15 18 21 15 6 0-1 2-1 4-1 50 16 Venice 23 20 12 17 20 19 6 0-1 0-1 3-1 45 17 St John's College 14 17 24 16 24 17 6 0-2 0-2 4-2 44 18 Cy-Fair 25 10 7 20 4 - 2-0 4-0 42 19 Bergen Catholic 21 19 12 12 4 0-1 1-1 4-2 40 20 St. Louis 15 5 19 3 - 1-0 8-0 39 21 Pickerington Central 20 23 16 9 25 5 0-1 4-1 6-1 37 22 Miami Northwestern 17 24 16 11 4 0-2 3-2 5-2 36 23 Folsom 18 8 25 17 4 - 1-0 8-0 36 24 Trotwood Madison 20 15 23 22 4 1-0 1-0 2-0 24 25 North Gwinnett 24 22 23 13 4 - 2-0 3-1 22 26 Lake Travis 16 15 2 0-1 1-2 2-3 21 27 Wake Forest 12 20 2 - - 1-0 20 28 Mission Viejo 17 15 2 0-1 3-1 4-1 20 28 Archbishop Hoban 9 23 2 - 1-1 3-1 20 28 Rome 22 21 21 3 - - 2-0 14 31 Greenwood 14 25 2 - - 1-0 13 32 Lincoln-Way East 21 19 2 - - 3-0 12 33 Owasso 22 25 21 3 - - 1-1 10 34 Muskegon 24 18 2 - - - 10 34 Cathedral Prep 22 24 2 - - 1-0 6 36 North Little Rock 7 1 - 1-0 4-0 19 37 Miami Central 12 1 1-3 2-3 3-3 14 38 Katy 17 1 - 0-1 2-1 9 39 Pearl 18 1 - - 2-0 8 40 Dutch Fork 18 1 - 1-1 2-1 8 41 St Joseph Prep 19 1 0-1 0-1 2-1 7 42 Martinsburg 19 1 - - - 7 43 Archbishop Wood 20 1 0-1 1-1 2-1 6 44 Bishop Miege 22 1 - - - 4 45 Pickerington North 24 1 0-2 0-2 3-3 2 46 West Point 25 1 - 1-0 1 compilation.xlsx Echs, I added some columns and placed all 1 poll ranked/rated schools at the bottom. Two poll variation at the most is fine with me. I'm cool with this list and awaiting Prep to share the forum poll and I will update and share. Edit: I'll clean up the tied rankings on next update. If a tie, the school with more polls takes the higher spot. If same # polls, a tie (unless I opt for a tiebreaker like better top 100 or top 250 record). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: #daretobedifferent isn't it amazing that in this day and age not adapting a set of mores, in EVERYTHING you do, makes you "different?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobT Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Still dont understand how Miami Central could only be ranked in 1 poll and BG in all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 6:31 AM, noonereal said: they beat 42 and 73.... Yeah Pittsburg is #73... GG noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 compilation.xlsx Final comp poll... I adjusted the rankings based on what I felt was a fair balance of polls inclusion and then ranked by points. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 12/23/2017 at 2:12 PM, dntn31 said: So like SJC? Lol!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Brentwood Academy, Bergen Catholic, Miami Northwestern, and Folsom in the Top 25 is ridiculous. In mine ... (Which is very close to being done)... 29. Miami Northwestern FL 45. Bergen Catholic NJ 46. Folsom CA 69. Brentwood Academy TN Mine is simply far, far superior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 12/23/2017 at 2:43 PM, ECHS05 said: Not necessarily true... Liberty played BG closer than 27... So SP damn sure can. SP gives MD a closer game also. De La Salle is not that good. MD would so beat them that badly, probably worse. Yes, DLS is good. For the love of Christ STOP daisy chaining! I don’t know why you people do that? BG also beat Liberty 84-7 the year before. Do you really think Liberty was THAT bad or, could it possibly be, that BG ran up the score for the pollsters. Based on that daisy chaining score Liberty was the worst team in Nevada. Come on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: MD would so beat them that badly, probably worse. Yes, DLS is good. For the love of Christ STOP daisy chaining! I don’t know why you people do that? BG also beat Liberty 84-7 the year before. Do you really think Liberty was THAT bad or, could it possibly be, that BG ran up the score for the pollsters. Based on that daisy chaining score Liberty was the worst team in Nevada. Come on! You cant dismiss every single game. You have to look and see exactly, which games are relevant to use for comparison and which games are not. BG beating Liberty was the odd man out, but sometimes comparison can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobT Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 4 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: After MD, IMG, SFA and TM, the number of "top," ranked teams with .500/losing records vs the T25 is laughable. Conversely, it's great that so many prominent teams are playing each other these days. So teams that dont play any T25 teams should be ranked ahead of those that do and lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobT Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 14 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Brentwood Academy, Bergen Catholic, Miami Northwestern, and Folsom in the Top 25 is ridiculous. In mine ... (Which is very close to being done)... 29. Miami Northwestern FL 45. Bergen Catholic NJ 46. Folsom CA 69. Brentwood Academy TN Mine is simply far, far superior. I cant wait to see the 28 teams you have better than MNW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 5 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: After MD, IMG, SFA and TM, the number of "top," ranked teams with .500/losing records vs the T25 is laughable. Conversely, it's great that so many prominent teams are playing each other these days. Need to correct PC as their loss to TM wasn’t to a comp 25. Probably not the only mistake I made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 15 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Brentwood Academy, Bergen Catholic, Miami Northwestern, and Folsom in the Top 25 is ridiculous. In mine ... (Which is very close to being done)... 29. Miami Northwestern FL 45. Bergen Catholic NJ 46. Folsom CA 69. Brentwood Academy TN Mine is simply far, far superior. I’ll take our forum poll over any individual poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, BigBobT said: I cant wait to see the 28 teams you have better than MNW. Bingham was quoted as stating they don’t want to be 0-3. That shows how strong SFA was this season. MNW barely got over 50 pct of the players vote to travel to AZ and play another game. Many who agreed the only reason was to fly on an airplane for the first time. MNW’s entire season’s work w 2 wins over Miami Central gets erased because Rocky looked weaker vs Thunderlips? MNW was so intense for the game that in AZ their final practice consisted of the O and D switching positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: MD would so beat them that badly, probably worse. Yes, DLS is good. For the love of Christ STOP daisy chaining! I don’t know why you people do that? BG also beat Liberty 84-7 the year before. Do you really think Liberty was THAT bad or, could it possibly be, that BG ran up the score for the pollsters. Based on that daisy chaining score Liberty was the worst team in Nevada. Come on! Hahaha. He has been doing it for a couple years now. He HATES the success of DLS and SoCal teams. Like major envy. ECHS means well. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: I’ll take our forum poll over any individual poll. WORD!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 12:10 AM, ECHS05 said: Brentwood Academy, Bergen Catholic, Miami Northwestern, and Folsom in the Top 25 is ridiculous. In mine ... (Which is very close to being done)... 29. Miami Northwestern FL 45. Bergen Catholic NJ 46. Folsom CA 69. Brentwood Academy TN Mine is simply far, far superior. You are an absolute idiot. This guys rankings were spot on and you disparage him because you don't "like" the teams on his list? He used real criteria and not "likes" as you did. You have zero credibility. None whatsoever. North Gwinnett, Rome, and Colquitt couldn't beat Folsom. Stop crying and help your state teams actually win a title in something instead of choking. Go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Folsom is just barely more significant than Colquitt over the past 5 years bro. And that's coming from a heavily biased Cali source. I can get down with you guys clawing for a spot in NorCal but I haven't noticed you guys running over to Texas or SoCal to prove yourselves. What top ranked teams have you guys played in the past few years? Rank School State League Division W-L League W-L State W-L Division W-L Top 1000 W-L Top 7000 W-L Rating Schedule Strength Opponents' W-L 1 St. John Bosco (Bellflower, CA) Southern Trinity 1 65-8 23-2 58-5 44-5 53-8 64-8 81.4 58.7 617-280 2 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) Southern Trinity 1 58-10 19-6 56-10 39-10 50-10 58-10 78.5 59 574-260 3 De La Salle (Concord, CA) North Coast Freelance 1 63-6 0-0 61-3 40-2 43-6 63-6 76.4 50.4 591-265 4 Allen (TX) Texas 6A Region I District 6 6A 76-2 35-0 71-2 71-2 56-2 76-2 75.3 50.7 605-332 5 Bishop Gorman (Las Vegas, NV) Nevada 4A Sunset - Southwest 4A 71-4 25-0 48-0 48-0 34-4 58-4 75 36 539-315 6 Centennial (Corona, CA) Southern Big VIII 1 59-11 25-0 55-8 38-3 36-11 58-11 74.5 54.9 536-298 7 IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL) Florida Freelance 44-3 0-0 24-2 1-0 29-2 44-3 71.7 46.9 374-179 8 Bingham (South Jordan, UT) Utah 6A Region 4 6A 65-6 26-0 62-1 61-1 37-6 63-6 69.6 44.8 491-338 9 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) Ohio Freelance I 57-10 0-0 37-8 26-8 41-10 53-10 69 51.1 545-224 10 Folsom (CA) Sac-Joaquin Sierra Foothill I-VII 72-4 29-0 70-4 62-2 43-3 70-4 68.3 41.3 601-329 11 Katy (TX) Texas 6A Region III District 19 6A 67-7 35-0 67-7 67-7 28-7 63-7 67.9 40.2 536-335 12 Mission Viejo (CA) Southern South Coast 1 62-5 20-0 58-5 32-3 36-5 60-5 67.1 46 488-307 13 Lake Travis (Austin, TX) Texas 6A Region IV District 25 6A 65-9 33-1 65-9 65-9 27-9 61-9 66.2 40.8 529-356-1 14 Chandler (AZ) Arizona 6A Premier 6A 61-9 (60-10 on the field) 22-0 58-5 54-5 35-9 59-9 66.1 43.8 502-346 15 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 3 43-14 14-6 33-9 14-4 36-14 42-14 65.9 53.8 429-203 16 DeSoto (TX) Texas 6A Region I District 7 6A 56-11 29-4 54-10 52-10 35-11 56-11 65 49.1 508-298 16 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) Maryland Washington Catholic 49-10 25-5 38-6 33-6 30-10 49-10 65 47.6 401-272 18 Central (Miami, FL) Florida 6A District 16 6A 55-9 15-4 50-8 31-5 33-9 54-9 64.9 45.7 505-237 18 Colerain (Cincinnati, OH) Ohio Greater Miami I 54-11 36-0 50-10 46-7 30-11 54-11 64.9 47.4 439-312 20 Colquitt County (Moultrie, GA) Georgia AAAAAAA Region 1 AAAAAAA 60-12 19-3 53-10 45-9 39-12 59-12 64.2 46.3 586-279 20 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA) Pennsylvania Philadelphia Catholic - Red AAAAAA 57-10 21-1 48-5 41-4 33-10 57-10 64.2 44.9 533-283 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Folsom is just barely more significant than Colquitt over the past 5 years bro. And that's coming from a heavily biased Cali source. I can get down with you guys clawing for a spot in NorCal but I haven't noticed you guys running over to Texas or SoCal to prove yourselves. What top ranked teams have you guys played in the past few years? Rank School State League Division W-L League W-L State W-L Division W-L Top 1000 W-L Top 7000 W-L Rating Schedule Strength Opponents' W-L 1 St. John Bosco (Bellflower, CA) Southern Trinity 1 65-8 23-2 58-5 44-5 53-8 64-8 81.4 58.7 617-280 2 Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) Southern Trinity 1 58-10 19-6 56-10 39-10 50-10 58-10 78.5 59 574-260 3 De La Salle (Concord, CA) North Coast Freelance 1 63-6 0-0 61-3 40-2 43-6 63-6 76.4 50.4 591-265 4 Allen (TX) Texas 6A Region I District 6 6A 76-2 35-0 71-2 71-2 56-2 76-2 75.3 50.7 605-332 5 Bishop Gorman (Las Vegas, NV) Nevada 4A Sunset - Southwest 4A 71-4 25-0 48-0 48-0 34-4 58-4 75 36 539-315 6 Centennial (Corona, CA) Southern Big VIII 1 59-11 25-0 55-8 38-3 36-11 58-11 74.5 54.9 536-298 7 IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL) Florida Freelance 44-3 0-0 24-2 1-0 29-2 44-3 71.7 46.9 374-179 8 Bingham (South Jordan, UT) Utah 6A Region 4 6A 65-6 26-0 62-1 61-1 37-6 63-6 69.6 44.8 491-338 9 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) Ohio Freelance I 57-10 0-0 37-8 26-8 41-10 53-10 69 51.1 545-224 10 Folsom (CA) Sac-Joaquin Sierra Foothill I-VII 72-4 29-0 70-4 62-2 43-3 70-4 68.3 41.3 601-329 11 Katy (TX) Texas 6A Region III District 19 6A 67-7 35-0 67-7 67-7 28-7 63-7 67.9 40.2 536-335 12 Mission Viejo (CA) Southern South Coast 1 62-5 20-0 58-5 32-3 36-5 60-5 67.1 46 488-307 13 Lake Travis (Austin, TX) Texas 6A Region IV District 25 6A 65-9 33-1 65-9 65-9 27-9 61-9 66.2 40.8 529-356-1 14 Chandler (AZ) Arizona 6A Premier 6A 61-9 (60-10 on the field) 22-0 58-5 54-5 35-9 59-9 66.1 43.8 502-346 15 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) New Jersey North Jersey Super - United Red Non-Public Group 3 43-14 14-6 33-9 14-4 36-14 42-14 65.9 53.8 429-203 16 DeSoto (TX) Texas 6A Region I District 7 6A 56-11 29-4 54-10 52-10 35-11 56-11 65 49.1 508-298 16 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) Maryland Washington Catholic 49-10 25-5 38-6 33-6 30-10 49-10 65 47.6 401-272 18 Central (Miami, FL) Florida 6A District 16 6A 55-9 15-4 50-8 31-5 33-9 54-9 64.9 45.7 505-237 18 Colerain (Cincinnati, OH) Ohio Greater Miami I 54-11 36-0 50-10 46-7 30-11 54-11 64.9 47.4 439-312 20 Colquitt County (Moultrie, GA) Georgia AAAAAAA Region 1 AAAAAAA 60-12 19-3 53-10 45-9 39-12 59-12 64.2 46.3 586-279 20 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA) Pennsylvania Philadelphia Catholic - Red AAAAAA 57-10 21-1 48-5 41-4 33-10 57-10 64.2 44.9 533-283 A couple things: Cali is dominated by private schools. Folsom has won 3 state titles in 7 years with no transfers. Let thank sink in. Public school dominant programs are cyclical in CA. Private schools don't dominate the GA landcape. Different demographics. Folsom is bringing their entire team back next year. They are the favs in NorCal. They could be really special. Now Colquitt - cmon. They barely beat a cali school who isn't even top 50 in Cali. Folsom would roll Colquitt. That's almost fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, TheBlockIsHot said: A couple things: Cali is dominated by private schools. Folsom has won 3 state titles in 7 years with no transfers. Let thank sink in. Public school dominant programs are cyclical in CA. Private schools don't dominate the GA landcape. Different demographics. Folsom is bringing their entire team back next year. They are the favs in NorCal. They could be really special. Now Colquitt - cmon. They barely beat a cali school who isn't even top 50 in Cali. Folsom would roll Colquitt. That's almost fact. Colquitt has an open spot for this season. Only one way to make a fact out of an almost fact. Of course Folsom won't even travel a few hundred miles south to play SJB, so there is zero chance they want to play Colquitt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Colquitt has an open spot for this season. Only one way to make a fact out of an almost fact. Of course Folsom won't even travel a few hundred miles south to play SJB, so there is zero chance they want to play Colquitt. Word is Ga schools don't like to travel. Why not come play on the blue turf? It would give you guys a chance to "get out." I would actually love to see Colquitt play live sometime @HawgGoneIt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I am always amazed that so many of you believe all these bogus polls. Pops arguing that DLS played #8 and 15th ranked teams from OOS. Here is my opinion poll - DLS is the most overrated team in the history of High school national polls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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