Fred Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am curious about the rabid hunger for OOS games and the lack of respect shown teams that don't a) play out of state teams, b) play out of state teams but have the OOS team come to them. I get the desire to see good games between good teams from all over the country. While it might give some idea as to the relative strength of the programs playing each other *at that moment in time*, all the daisy chaining that goes on from these games is nothing short of ludicrous. I also don't get the disdain for teams that play OOS teams but have the OOS team come to them. If the desire is to get the game played, what difference does it make *where* it is played? Flame away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Oos games do have an extra added hysteria to them. They are very polarized. A good example was when Euless Trinity,TX beat De La Salle,CA it was a huge deal and the message board banter was furious. But Trinity ended up beating the Texas 6A Champ as well (North Shore) But when Trinity lost in the 1st round and DLS won state it was chaos. It was a whole offseason of bashing DLS, bashing Cali, redeeming Aledo for getting killed by Bishop Amat etc etc. But you didn't hear a peep about the North Shore game. Because no one cared because it was in state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Home or away doesn't matter unless the game is close and the refs are killing the away team. Dwyer/Glenville Manatee/Bosco to name a few where the home refs impacted the game blantantly. Last year STA was down 6-0 to Centennial,AZ when an obviously made up phamtom call extended a Centennial drive at the end of the game. Had that made up call never happened STA would have had one more possession to try and win. Instead Centennial gets a first down and then scores a meaningless TD at the last second. That refs phantom call was the difference. That's the biggest issue with only having the games at your place. Not only does the traveling team have to go through a hassle of busses, planes, etc they have to deal with the refs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrepGridiron Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Before the cross state games happened the message board that housed many of the national posters consisted of puffery based on hypothetical matchups between state powers. OOS matchups now give people who post on national boards a point of reference. It’s really only important to the fans here. It’s important to the fans of the local teams but only as a point of pride for the school, area and state. This is my opinion of it all of course. Without national games we’d all be howling how good our state is, but wouldn’t have the actual games to back it up. Makes for better board chatter in my opinion. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 NJ has had some very good OOS games. Instead of having the NP play public schools these OOS games are needed Such OOS games that were memorable for NJ imo were BC vs BG 2x BC vs Cocoa(what a performance by that cocoa team) DBP vs DLS DBP vs MV SJR vs DeMatha DBP vs St. Eds at Fordham BC vs FCA(eddie goldman on FCA now a chicago bear what an athlete at his size) DBP vs Manatee BC vs Plant DBP vs Prattville Im sure I missed some but those are the ones right off the top of my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: BC and SJRs wins over ED in 2014-15 were the biggest in njhsfb history if you go by final season rankings. Thats very true. St. Eds was a huge fav when they lost to BC correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: ED finished #3 and #8 nationally those years despite the losses to the NJ teams. Great wins for BC and SJR. I remember think St. Eds was going to crush BC that year. And when i heard BC pulled it out I was stunned. Great win. I guess because I wasnt there its not one that sticks in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: Game was at neutral field in Leonia. I thinks thats why i didnt go. the parking situation stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Game was at neutral field in Leonia. Pal park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I parked three minutes from the field and arrived an hour before the game. Another example of your can't-do attitude. Yea the guy who usually shows up 4 hours before game time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBigdaddybloom Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Mission Viejo beating DBP had some New Jersey-ites melting down in a good ole pot of home cooking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, PrepGridiron said: Before the cross state games happened the message board that housed many of the national posters consisted of puffery based on hypothetical matchups between state powers. OOS matchups now give people who post on national boards a point of reference. It’s really only important to the fans here. It’s important to the fans of the local teams but only as a point of pride for the school, area and state. This is my opinion of it all of course. Without national games we’d all be howling how good our state is, but wouldn’t have the actual games to back it up. Makes for better board chatter in my opinion. So where would GA rank in your opinion in terms of top HS football states? And before you get all weird and try to think of a "cool" response, just remember this is a simple question that warrants a simple answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Home or away doesn't matter unless the game is close and the refs are killing the away team. Dwyer/Glenville Manatee/Bosco to name a few where the home refs impacted the game blantantly. Last year STA was down 6-0 to Centennial,AZ when an obviously made up phamtom call extended a Centennial drive at the end of the game. Had that made up call never happened STA would have had one more possession to try and win. Instead Centennial gets a first down and then scores a meaningless TD at the last second. That refs phantom call was the difference. That's the biggest issue with only having the games at your place. Not only does the traveling team have to go through a hassle of busses, planes, etc they have to deal with the refs as well. Slight correction... the phantom call was on a 3rd and 16 creating a 3rd and 1 and after the Florida 8th grade transfer to Zona broke through a frustrated and lazy tackling effort in short yardage D, it was game ova. STA wouldn't have won anyway unless the punt returner went the distance, but would have been nice to witness at least for further frustration lol. OOS is all we have on this forum basically. Otherwise it's just in-state discussions primarily. Homerism trolling adds to the intensity of OOS games on the forum. Road warriors are appreciated, but any good OOS game is the goal even it means some schools enjoy the home cooking only... better that than no game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrepGridiron Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheBlockIsHot said: So where would GA rank in your opinion in terms of top HS football states? And before you get all weird and try to think of a "cool" response, just remember this is a simple question that warrants a simple answer. Top 5, probably top 4. I thought OH and GA had a lot of similarities this year, but I think GA is grading out higher for me because of depth. If Delmarva was a state, it'd be up there too though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, PrepGridiron said: Top 5, probably top 4. I thought OH and GA had a lot of similarities this year, but I think GA is grading out higher for me because of depth. If Delmarva was a state, it'd be up there too though. I would agree with you. I was going to say in the 5-7 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: #4 or 5 annually swapping with OH depending on the season. Big three will always be CA, FL and TX Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, NotBigdaddybloom said: Mission Viejo beating DBP had some New Jersey-ites melting down in a good ole pot of home cooking. Watched that game. There were some calls that could have gone either way, just like in any other game. But they went ape shit about home cooking. LOL. There was no home cooking that night. MV won fair and square. GO DIABLOS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: As did DBP in 2011, 35-7. Was a quality home and home series. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: #4 or 5 annually swapping with OH depending on the season. Big three will always be CA, FL and TX Instead of location, location, location, I think this one is because population, population, population. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: BC and SJRs wins over ED in 2014-15 were the biggest in njhsfb history if you go by final season rankings. Cmon GSB. Busting the DLS legend and then getting STA 2x. Nothing bigger than that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think the OOS Game is more for the pencil dicks in life truthfully.......much like the trump phenomenon. Grayson beat Curtis last year in a hard-fought game, but I don't see that it proved anything other than Grayson was a couple plays better than Curtis at the end that day. Same with 98% of these games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingMan44 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Home or away doesn't matter unless the game is close and the refs are killing the away team. Dwyer/Glenville Manatee/Bosco to name a few where the home refs impacted the game blantantly. Last year STA was down 6-0 to Centennial,AZ when an obviously made up phamtom call extended a Centennial drive at the end of the game. Had that made up call never happened STA would have had one more possession to try and win. Instead Centennial gets a first down and then scores a meaningless TD at the last second. That refs phantom call was the difference. That's the biggest issue with only having the games at your place. Not only does the traveling team have to go through a hassle of busses, planes, etc they have to deal with the refs as well. It was the difference? STA didn’t score in the first 45 minutes but definitely would have scored in the last 3??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, StingMan44 said: It was the difference? STA didn’t score in the first 45 minutes but definitely would have scored in the last 3??? My thoughts exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, PrepGridiron said: Top 5, probably top 4. I thought OH and GA had a lot of similarities this year, but I think GA is grading out higher for me because of depth. If Delmarva was a state, it'd be up there too though. 8 hours ago, TheBlockIsHot said: I would agree with you. I was going to say in the 5-7 range. 7 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: #4 or 5 annually swapping with OH depending on the season. Big three will always be CA, FL and TX You also can't ignore the fact that, over the past few years, Georgia has been trending upward as a whole in both talent and over-all number of quality teams. Having said that, I wouldn't be all that comfortable with the "always" statement about the big three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2017 GA,FL and OH where all interchangeable. FL was not all that in 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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