ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Pops said: We can rule out anyone that actually understands numbers Funny... Im 1 of 2 people on this site that understood #s enough to know CalPreps could not be accurate without using manual state scaling by way of OOS games. Its still not enough, but its the only way to get it closer. Ive made you look like a tool at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Pops said: I think it’s cute how he calls his little mathwork “the data” Its how it works, plain and simple. Call it the festering trail of dead cockroaches... Call it whatever you want. It doesnt make it any less accurate. I harp on state scaling for 4 years, and then Ned happens to make a page dedicated to it acknowledging everything I said and you denied. And you still have the audacity to question me... Wow. How twisted must you be. Im using the only data there is in the correct way to establish states values and whether they are over or under valued relative to how they performed OOS vs their actual ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Folsem wouldn't be in the Top 30 teams I'd have represent Ca. vs a Georgia Top 10 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Serious question to you Californias... When Im doing this, do I add ALL of the Central Section to NorCal or what? Which side does the Central Section belong to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Folsem wouldn't be in the Top 30 teams I'd have represent Ca. vs a Georgia Top 10 team. Theres definitely plenty of SoCal teams thatd do better than Folsom vs. a GA Top 10 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Serious question to you Californias... When Im doing this, do I add ALL of the Central Section to NorCal or what? Which side does the Central Section belong to? Same section as San Diego....The non SoCal section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Serious question to you Californias... When Im doing this, do I add ALL of the Central Section to NorCal or what? Which side does the Central Section belong to? I was just about to ask you the same question.Central is divided up during state so I’m not sure how you would do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Ararar said: I was just about to ask you the same question.Central is divided up during state so I’m not sure how you would do it Dang... Any idea how its divided up? I noticed D1 & 2 were NorCal... 4 & 6 were SoCal... Cant remember the others ... Im not sure though... I can divide them up by divisions if I knew exactly which were which... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Dang... Any idea how its divided up? I noticed D1 & 2 were NorCal... 4 & 6 were SoCal... Cant remember the others ... Im not sure though... I can divide them up by divisions if I knew exactly which were which... That’s how they do it.upper divisions North lower South but not sure about D3 edit:D3 is north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 So far for Cali, all Ive done is their OOS games vs. Alaska & Arizona..., All the Alaska games were vs NorCal teams, and all Arizona games were vs SoCal (mainly San Diego) ... But Im to Colorado , and thats East Bakersfield which is Central D4... No idea what to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: So far for Cali, all Ive done is their OOS games vs. Alaska & Arizona..., All the Alaska games were vs NorCal teams, and all Arizona games were vs SoCal (mainly San Diego) ... But Im to Colorado , and thats East Bakersfield which is Central D4... No idea what to do with them. Pretty sure D4 is SoCal for the SBG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 23 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Marietta is traveling to SJC, who traveled twice last season to Cali, losing to both DLS and SJB by a combined 8 points. In the wee hours of the morning. IMO Marietta has a great shot of being the best team in GA come 12/18. I thought SJB played at SJC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: Folsem wouldn't be in the Top 30 teams I'd have represent Ca. vs a Georgia Top 10 team. Folsom has never lost to a team from southern California (Folsom 217-79 Southern Cali) and is top 2 up North. There are 2-3 teams better in SoCal then them. These are facts. Enjoy going .500 again next season (hopefully)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Ok, from the looks of it... Central D1, 2, & 6 are NorCal... Central D3, 4, & 5 are SoCal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Folsom Prison said: Folsom has never lost to a team from southern California (Folsom 217-79 Southern Cali) and is top 2 up North. There are 2-3 teams better in SoCal then them. These are facts. Enjoy going .500 again next season (hopefully)... I count more than 2 or 3... If you struggled with Helix that badly, Folsom wouldve had at minimum 4 sure-fire losses/thumpings vs SoCal in 2017. They wouldve been Mater Dei, SJB, Cen10, & Mission Viejo. Santa Margarita also probably beats them handily. Chaminade probably wins too (although Chaminade is taking a step back in '18)..... JSerra & OLu probably win too... But those are close games. Narbonne would be 50/50.... Folsom wouldve probably beat Poly. Thats 6 losses, 2 probably losses, and 1 50/50. Thats reality fren. Folsom has yet to prove a damn thing... Beating Helix doesnt make you #3 or 4 in CA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Ararar said: Pretty sure D4 is SoCal for the SBG Its SoCal - D3, 4, & 5 NorCal - D1, 2, & 6 But... Honestly Central should be its OWN part of the state like NorCal & SoCal are, atleast when doing scales/values like Im doing... 90% of Central Section teams games were vs each other... Their scales wont really be intertwined with either NorCal or SoCal because they werent really playing them in the regular season, they only played against one of them in the final game of the season. Really, the way Cali is set up... Every section should have its own scale.. Aka, If I wanted to really be accurate, I should probably so them all seperately.. 1 for San Diego, 1 for Southern, 1 for LA, 1 for North Coast, 1 for Sac-Joaquin, and so on... The way Im doing it will tell the overall for NorCal & SoCal as a whole, but the Southern could be brung down by San Diego or LA or vise versa. But all these Sections, for the most part, played themselves in the regular season so it makes more sense to do them all seperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I count more than 2 or 3... If you struggled with Helix that badly, Folsom wouldve had at minimum 4 sure-fire losses/thumpings vs SoCal in 2017. They wouldve been Mater Dei, SJB, Cen10, & Mission Viejo. Santa Margarita also probably beats them handily. Chaminade probably wins too (although Chaminade is taking a step back in '18)..... JSerra & OLu probably win too... But those are close games. Narbonne would be 50/50.... Folsom wouldve probably beat Poly. Thats 6 losses, 2 probably losses, and 1 50/50. Thats reality fren. Folsom has yet to prove a damn thing... Beating Helix doesnt make you #3 or 4 in CA. Folsem has no staying power. Only once every 5 years or so, can they be competitive be the SoCal Top 30. Sad considering they draw most of the football talent from a 50 mile radius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: ..... If you struggled with Helix...Thats reality fren. Folsom has yet to prove a damn thing... Beating Helix doesnt make you #3 or 4 in CA. Folsem marquee win - Helix also lost to D-10 Parakeet so there's that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I count more than 2 or 3... If you struggled with Helix that badly, Folsom wouldve had at minimum 4 sure-fire losses/thumpings vs SoCal in 2017. They wouldve been Mater Dei, SJB, Cen10, & Mission Viejo. Santa Margarita also probably beats them handily. Chaminade probably wins too (although Chaminade is taking a step back in '18)..... JSerra & OLu probably win too... But those are close games. Narbonne would be 50/50.... Folsom wouldve probably beat Poly. Thats 6 losses, 2 probably losses, and 1 50/50. Thats reality fren. Folsom has yet to prove a damn thing... Beating Helix doesnt make you #3 or 4 in CA. Neither you or @Sammyswordsman watched the game. It wasn't close. Folsom won the State title with a team full of sophmores and juniors. Let that sink in. Going by opponents in common, I guess DLS would barely beat Helix too then right? Folsom 54-35 Central DLS 49-30 Central Folsom is top 5 in state and I agree that their schedule has been weak until 2018. Let's see what they do this year. My guess is neither of you will give credit regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Folsom Prison said: .... and I agree that their schedule has been weak until 2018. Let's see what they do this year. My guess is neither of you will give credit regardless. I already gave them credit for their 2018 schedule. Their 279 wins prior to 2018 are all irrelevant due to the poor level of competition. If Folsem can go .500 vs Chaminade and DLS over the next 2 years, then I will give them credit. And that's a very low bar considering the noise that your fellow boosters have been making about their suggested football prowess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Quote Sad considering they draw most of the football talent from a 50 mile radius The last time that I checked Reno is 122 miles from Folsom. So you might want to fix that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: I already gave them credit for their 2018 schedule. Their 279 wins prior to 2018 are all irrelevant due to the poor level of competition. If Folsem can go .500 vs Chaminade and DLS over the next 2 years, then I will give them credit. And that's a very low bar considering the noise that your fellow boosters have been making about their suggested football prowess Quoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Las Vegas_JC said: The last time that I checked Reno is 122 miles from Folsom. So you might want to fix that. Speaks volumes about the city of Reno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Folsom Prison said: Neither you or @Sammyswordsman watched the game. It wasn't close. Folsom won the CIF D1-AA title with a team full of sophmores and juniors. Let that sink in. Going by opponents in common, I guess DLS would barely beat Helix too then right? Folsom 54-35 Central DLS 49-30 Central Folsom is top 5 in state and I agree that their schedule has been weak until 2018. Let's see what they do this year. My guess is neither of you will give credit regardless. i agree with everything you said but had to fix a typo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: i agree with everything you said but had to fix a typo... No argument here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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