TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Columbiafan said: I don't expect or care if Columbia ever is ranked in top 100 But the teams they ranked FL was garbage, anyone who knows FL would know this GA teams didn't make the cut and rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 15 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Georgias Preseason Top 30 at CP,., 1. Rome (nah, lost too much talent... #10-15 is more accurate) 2. Walton 3. Blessed Trinity 4. Archer 5. Lee Co. 6. Marietta 7. Colquitt Co. 8. McEachern 9. North Gwinnett 10. Grayson 11. Milton 12. Warner Robins 13. Tift Co. 14. Lowndes 15. Buford 16. Cartersville 17. Marist 18. Norcross 19. Calhoun 20. Northside-WR 21. Brookwood 22. Mary Persons 23. Hillgrove 24. Tucker 25. ELCA 26. GAC 27. Benedictine 28. Allatoona 29. Cedar Grove 30. Coffee Can you send me a link to the state rankings? I want to see how bad the FL ones are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBlockIsHot said: GA teams didn't make the cut and rightfully so. Idc about GA Theres plenty of GA posters who will know the GA ranked teams better than me But the rankings of FL was weak, wekiva is not 3rd best in the state 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: Idc about GA Theres plenty of GA posters who will know the GA ranked teams better than me But the rankings of FL was weak, wekiva is not 3rd best in the state You guys get the east coast treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, TheBlockIsHot said: You guys get the east coast treatment Its a guy from CA making the rankings. What would you expect besides overranked CA teams. The thing is though, CalPreps will change dramatically... Not a single team is "Officially Rated" yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Can you send me a link to the state rankings? I want to see how bad the FL ones are http://calpreps.com/2018/ratings/Florida_all.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 58 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Not a bloody chance in hell These voters obviously haven't watched a game of FL in their lives if they made these crappy rankings And Bishop Gorman being ranked outside top 50 is a joke Voters??😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, ECHS05 said: Its a guy from CA making the rankings. What would you expect besides overranked CA teams. The thing is though, CalPreps will change dramatically... Not a single team is "Officially Rated" yet. GA teams are well respected. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Georgias rankings have already changed... Im very surprised how low they have North Gwinnett... Thats the team thats going to rise the most when they officially rank teams... Them and Grayson... They are like 9 and 10 in GA at CP... Colquitt is #1 in GA at 45... 48. Rome 68. Walton 69. Blessed Trinity 70. Archer 73. Lee Co. 80. Marietta 83. McEachern 114. North Gwinnett 187. Grayson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Georgias rankings have already changed... Im very surprised how low they have North Gwinnett... Thats the team thats going to rise the most when they officially rank teams... Them and Grayson... They are like 9 and 10 in GA at CP... Colquitt is #1 in GA at 45... 48. Rome 68. Walton 69. Blessed Trinity 70. Archer 73. Lee Co. 80. Marietta 83. McEachern 114. North Gwinnett 187. Grayson 4th tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Its definitely odd Hoover always starts above GA teams, and GA has beaten Hoover OOS 3 straight seasons... And are 5-2 vs Hoover the last 10,years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, TheBlockIsHot said: 4th tier. At CalPreps no doubt... Junk rankings... Just did this for,fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, ECHS05 said: At CalPreps no doubt... Junk rankings... Just did this for,fun You're so mad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ararar said: Voters??😂😂 It's a conspiracy. Tin foil hats on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Its definitely odd Hoover always starts above GA teams, and GA has beaten Hoover OOS 3 straight seasons... And are 5-2 vs Hoover the last 10,years. USA Today model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Anyone that looks at CP preseason ratings in March has too much idle time and/ or clinical psychosis 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Pops said: Anyone that looks at CP preseason ratings in March has too much idle time and/ or clinical psychosis You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times. I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere. The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Pops said: Anyone that looks at CP preseason ratings in March has too much idle time and/ or clinical psychosis Beats watching basketball. lol Or reading Rabies crapola. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, ECHS05 said: You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times. I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere. The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides. You wrote “for fun” and then have been editorializing your opinion of CP since CP gets very good after it has data and remains to a lot of hsfb enthusiasts as the go to source for national rankings there is no perfect system — CP as good or better than any and exponentially comprehensive they do scale nationally — again, as well as anyone, especially with the increased amount of interstate games and is willing to adapt every year you mock their wild fluctuations of rankings but 1% of hsfb teams represents about 150 schools — don’t you think results from week to week can change the “ranking” of any team by 1%? (That’s 150 spots). 1/10th of 1%? That’s 15 spots, which is how far DLS jumped after beating #1 CC in the SBG in 2015. @Hardhit is on your side because he can’t accept that sort of jump, which would never happen in human polls. Human polls do things like in 2010 when heading into the final weekend, USAT had: #1. Trinity ((TX) — vs Pearland in 6A1 TX championship #2. South Panola (MS) — season had been over for two weeks, biggest win was a 14-point victory over Olive Branch #3. DLS — vs unbeaten Pac5 champ and national top 5 Servite Trinity loses, SP idle, DLS was up 42-0 before service got a 1st down final rankings 1. South panola 2. DLS human polls are inheritance polls and especially ill-advised when you are trying to rank 15,000 teams whose personnel turns over 50%/ year moreover, teams with competitive playoffs are penalized by inheritance polls that rewards a flashy September win more than a December championship because the order is more fluid early before becoming rigid embrace it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Pops said: You wrote “for fun” and then have been editorializing your opinion of CP since CP gets very good after it has data and remains to a lot of hsfb enthusiasts as the go to source for national rankings there is no perfect system — CP as good or better than any and exponentially comprehensive they do scale nationally — again, as well as anyone, especially with the increased amount of interstate games and is willing to adapt every year you mock their wild fluctuations of rankings but 1% of hsfb teams represents about 150 schools — don’t you think results from week to week can change the “ranking” of any team by 1%? (That’s 150 spots). 1/10th of 1%? That’s 15 spots, which is how far DLS jumped after beating #1 CC in the SBG in 2015. @Hardhit is on your side because he can’t accept that sort of jump, which would never happen in human polls. Human polls do things like in 2010 when heading into the final weekend, USAT had: #1. Trinity ((TX) — vs Pearland in 6A1 TX championship #2. South Panola (MS) — season had been over for two weeks, biggest win was a 14-point victory over Olive Branch #3. DLS — vs unbeaten Pac5 champ and national top 5 Servite Trinity loses, SP idle, DLS was up 42-0 before service got a 1st down final rankings 1. South panola 2. DLS human polls are inheritance polls and especially ill-advised when you are trying to rank 15,000 teams whose personnel turns over 50%/ year moreover, teams with competitive playoffs are penalized by inheritance polls that rewards a flashy September win more than a December championship because the order is more fluid early before becoming rigid embrace it You ever think people didnt believe Servite was a Top 5 team? Let me guess... They were top 5 at CalPreps and you think Humans have to base their polls off CalPreps? Heres another thing... Look at the bolded part... And youve partially acknowledged this yourself by saying theres a bigger gap in between #1 and #100 than there is between #100 and #1000... Moving up 15 spots from, for example, #1500 to #1485 is completely different than moving up 15 spots from #15 to #1.... #1 to #15 could realistically be 4-5 TDs some years... While #1500 to #1485 will never be more than 1 maybe 2 points... Theres a big diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, ECHS05 said: You ever think people didnt believe Servite was a Top 5 team? Let me guess... They were top 5 at CalPreps and you think Humans have to base their polls That’s your best comeback? servite wwas the undefeated champions of a bracket that is usually at least 50% top 100 teams — they beat a top 5 team in all the human polls the previous week by 14 and were themselves just as highly ranked in human polls as CP the gap between 1 and 100 is about the same as 100 to 1,000 — in my example, DLS moved up 1/10th if 1% for beating the team that was #1 in the country at CP and almost every human poll in a championship game — doesn’t get any more material than that and you’re going to object to a 1/10th if 1% movement because it doesn’t fit your narrative bring it a lot stronger than this — my interest is waning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 8:24 PM, ECHS05 said: Obviously we know CalPreps rankings change wildly throughout the preseason, and their final preseason rankings will look a lot different than these initial ones... But its something... Just wanted to post their inital aka very 1st 2018 preseason Top 50... Obviously Im posting their rankings for fun... Like I said, theyll change a ton and not a lot of stock can be out in CPs National Rankings anyway... CalPreps very 1st 2018 Preseason Top 100: 1. St. John Bosco CA - (what a surprise) 2. Mater Dei CA - (again, big surprise... CaliforniaPreps loves California) 3. IMG Academy USA 4. St. Frances Academy MD 5. St. Louis HI 6. North Little Rock AR 7. Allen TX 8. Folsom CA 9. Chaminade CA 10. Carthage TX 11. Orange Lutheran CA 12. Westlake (Austin) TX 13. Oaks Christian CA 14. Pittsburg CA (... Pittsburg?... This makes 7 of the Top 14 from CA... Let the CA over-scaling commence) 15. Bingham UT 16. DePaul Catholic NJ 17. Aledo TX 18. Archbishop Hoban OH 19. Mission Viejo CA (8 of the Top 19 from CA) 20. Katy TX 21. Bergen Catholic NJ 22. Brentwood Academy TN 23. Cy-Fair TX 24. American Heritage (Plantation) FL 25. St. Pius X TX 26. Good Counsel MD 27. St. John's DC 28. Pickerington Central OH 29. Hoover AL (A Georgia team has beaten Hoover 3 straight seasons. Twice by 3 TDs or more, but we cant get a higher preseason rating than them) 30. Trinity Christian (Cedar Hill) TX 31. Southlake Carroll TX 32. Servite CA (whhhooaaa, whered this come from) 33. De La Salle CA (10 CA teams in the Top 33) 34. Chandler AZ 35. Chaminade-Madonna FL 36. St. Peter's Prep NJ 37. Newton TX 38. Longview TX 39. Klein Collins TX (12 TX teams in the Top 39) 40. Eden Prairie MN 41. Christian Brothers MO 42. Ben Davis IN 43. Serra (San Mateo) CA 44. Rome GA 45. Lincoln-Way East IL 46. Murrieta Valley CA 47. Greenwood AR 48. La Salle OH 49. Serra (Gardena) CA 50. Mission Hills CA (14 of the Top 50 from CA) --- 51. St. Ignatius OH 52. Bryant AR 53. Wekiva FL 54. Venice FL 55. The Woodlands TX 56. Fayetteville AR 57. Angleton TX 58. Starkville MS 59. Cardinal Gibbons FL 60. Thompson AL 61. Corona Centennial CA 62. Euless Trinity TX 63. Colerain OH 64. Punahou HI 65. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 66. Arlington TX 67. Lake Travis TX (17 of the Top 67 from TX) 68. Walton GA 69. Blessed Trinity GA 70. Archer GA 71. Bishop Amat CA 72. Lee Co. GA 73. Langham Creek TX 74. Northmont OH 75. Miami Northwestern FL 76. Olentangy Liberty OH 77. Trinity (Louisville) KY 78. Marietta GA 79. Highland ID 80. Colquitt Co. GA 81. Westfield TX 82. T.L. Hanna SC 83. McEachern GA 84. South Pointe SC 85. East (Salt Lake City) UT 86. Pickerington North OH 87. Bentonville AR 88. Blue Springs MO 89. Cedar Ridge TX 90. Torrey Pines CA 91. Duncanville TX 92. Warren Central IN 93. St. Anthony's NY 94. Pine-Richland PA 95. Pine Bluff AR 96. Highland Park TX 97. Bishop Dunne TX 98. Maryville TN 99. DeMatha MD 100. Covington Catholic KY The Next 10... 101. Bishop Miege KS 102. Waco Midway TX 103. Kennedale TX 104. San Clemente CA 105. Dutch Fork SC 106. Rockhurst MO 107. Central (Fresno) CA 108. Mansfield Legacy TX (26 of Top 108 from TX) 109. Santa Margarita CA (20 of Top 109 from CA) 110. Owasso OK Honestly, this is garbage. Just another bogus poll made by bogus people put on a bogus web-site. lol they can't even get 1 state close to right (Texas) you really believe they can rank the nation? Trash! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, ECHS05 said: You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times. I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere. The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides. State rankings for FL was weak as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, Texasball said: Honestly, this is garbage. Just another bogus poll made by bogus people put on a bogus web-site. lol they can't even get 1 state close to right (Texas) you really believe they can rank the nation? Trash! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Columbiafan said: Thank you The truth is every single national HS football poll is bogus. It's impossible for anyone to do even remotely close to the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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