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CalPreps 1st National Preseason Top 100


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15 hours ago, ECHS05 said:

Georgias Preseason Top 30 at CP,., 

1. Rome (nah, lost too much talent... #10-15 is more accurate)

2. Walton

3. Blessed Trinity

4. Archer

5. Lee Co.

6. Marietta

7. Colquitt Co.

8. McEachern

9. North Gwinnett

10. Grayson

11. Milton

12. Warner Robins

13. Tift Co.

14. Lowndes

15. Buford

16. Cartersville

17. Marist

18. Norcross

19. Calhoun

20. Northside-WR

21. Brookwood

22. Mary Persons

23. Hillgrove

24. Tucker

25. ELCA

26. GAC

27. Benedictine

28. Allatoona

29. Cedar Grove

30. Coffee

Can you send me a link to the state rankings? 

 

I want to see how bad the FL ones are

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50 minutes ago, TheBlockIsHot said:

You guys get the east coast treatment

Its a guy from CA making the rankings. What would you expect besides overranked CA teams.

The thing is though, CalPreps will change dramatically... Not a single team is "Officially Rated" yet.

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Georgias rankings have already changed... Im very surprised how low they have North Gwinnett... Thats the team thats going to rise the most when they officially rank teams... Them and Grayson... They are like 9 and 10 in GA at CP...

 

Colquitt is #1 in GA at 45...

48. Rome

68. Walton

69. Blessed Trinity

70. Archer

73. Lee Co.

80. Marietta

83. McEachern

114. North Gwinnett

187. Grayson

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2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Georgias rankings have already changed... Im very surprised how low they have North Gwinnett... Thats the team thats going to rise the most when they officially rank teams... Them and Grayson... They are like 9 and 10 in GA at CP...

 

Colquitt is #1 in GA at 45...

48. Rome

68. Walton

69. Blessed Trinity

70. Archer

73. Lee Co.

80. Marietta

83. McEachern

114. North Gwinnett

187. Grayson

4th tier.

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1 hour ago, Pops said:

Anyone that looks at CP preseason ratings in March has too much idle time and/ or clinical psychosis 

You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times.

I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere.

 

The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides.

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2 hours ago, ECHS05 said:

You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times.

I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere.

 

The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides.

You wrote “for fun” and then have been editorializing your opinion of CP since 

CP gets very good after it has data and remains to a lot of hsfb enthusiasts as the go to source for national rankings 

there is no perfect system — CP as good or better than any and exponentially comprehensive 

they do scale nationally — again, as well as anyone, especially with the increased amount of interstate games and is willing to adapt every year

you mock their wild fluctuations of rankings but 1% of hsfb teams represents about 150 schools — don’t you think results from week to week can change the “ranking” of any team by 1%?  (That’s 150 spots). 1/10th of 1%?  That’s 15 spots, which is how far DLS jumped after beating #1 CC in the SBG in 2015.  @Hardhit is on your side because he can’t accept that sort of jump, which would never happen in human polls.  Human polls do things like in 2010 when heading into the final weekend, USAT had:

#1. Trinity ((TX)

— vs Pearland in 6A1 TX championship 

#2. South Panola (MS)

— season had been over for two weeks, biggest win was a 14-point victory over Olive Branch

#3. DLS 

— vs unbeaten Pac5 champ and national top 5 Servite

Trinity loses, SP idle, DLS was up 42-0 before service got a 1st down

final rankings

1. South panola

2. DLS

human polls are inheritance polls and especially ill-advised when you are trying to rank 15,000 teams whose personnel turns over 50%/ year

moreover, teams with competitive playoffs are penalized by inheritance polls that rewards a flashy September win more than a December championship because the order is more fluid early before becoming rigid 

embrace it 

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1 hour ago, Pops said:

You wrote “for fun” and then have been editorializing your opinion of CP since 

CP gets very good after it has data and remains to a lot of hsfb enthusiasts as the go to source for national rankings 

there is no perfect system — CP as good or better than any and exponentially comprehensive 

they do scale nationally — again, as well as anyone, especially with the increased amount of interstate games and is willing to adapt every year

you mock their wild fluctuations of rankings but 1% of hsfb teams represents about 150 schools — don’t you think results from week to week can change the “ranking” of any team by 1%?  (That’s 150 spots). 1/10th of 1%?  That’s 15 spots, which is how far DLS jumped after beating #1 CC in the SBG in 2015.  @Hardhit is on your side because he can’t accept that sort of jump, which would never happen in human polls.  Human polls do things like in 2010 when heading into the final weekend, USAT had:

#1. Trinity ((TX)

— vs Pearland in 6A1 TX championship 

#2. South Panola (MS)

— season had been over for two weeks, biggest win was a 14-point victory over Olive Branch

#3. DLS 

— vs unbeaten Pac5 champ and national top 5 Servite

Trinity loses, SP idle, DLS was up 42-0 before service got a 1st down

final rankings

1. South panola

2. DLS

human polls are inheritance polls and especially ill-advised when you are trying to rank 15,000 teams whose personnel turns over 50%/ year

moreover, teams with competitive playoffs are penalized by inheritance polls that rewards a flashy September win more than a December championship because the order is more fluid early before becoming rigid 

embrace it 

 

You ever think people didnt believe Servite was a Top 5 team? Let me guess... They were top 5 at CalPreps and you think Humans have to base their polls off CalPreps?

 

Heres another thing... Look at the bolded part... And youve partially acknowledged this yourself by saying theres a bigger gap in between #1 and #100 than there is  between #100 and #1000... 

Moving up 15 spots from, for example, #1500 to #1485 is completely different than moving up 15 spots from #15 to #1.... #1 to #15 could realistically be 4-5 TDs some years... While #1500 to #1485 will never be more than 1 maybe 2 points...

Theres a big diff.

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2 hours ago, ECHS05 said:

 

You ever think people didnt believe Servite was a Top 5 team? Let me guess... They were top 5 at CalPreps and you think Humans have to base their polls 

That’s your best comeback?

servite wwas the undefeated champions of a bracket that is usually at least 50% top 100 teams — they beat a top 5 team in all the human polls the previous week by 14 and were themselves just as highly ranked in human polls as CP

the gap between 1 and 100 is about the same as 100 to 1,000 — in my example, DLS moved up 1/10th if 1% for beating the team that was #1 in the country at CP and almost every human poll in a championship game — doesn’t get any more material than that and you’re going to object to a 1/10th if 1% movement because it doesn’t fit your narrative 

bring it a lot stronger than this — my interest is waning 

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On 3/21/2018 at 8:24 PM, ECHS05 said:

Obviously we know CalPreps rankings change wildly throughout the preseason, and their final preseason rankings will look a lot different than these initial ones... But its something... Just wanted to post their inital aka very 1st 2018 preseason Top 50...

Obviously Im posting their rankings for fun... Like I said, theyll change a ton and not a lot of stock can be out in CPs National Rankings anyway...

 

CalPreps very 1st 2018 Preseason Top 100:

1. St. John Bosco CA - (what a surprise)

2. Mater Dei CA - (again, big surprise... CaliforniaPreps loves California)

3. IMG Academy USA

4. St. Frances Academy MD

5. St. Louis HI 

6. North Little Rock AR

7. Allen TX

8. Folsom CA

9. Chaminade CA

10. Carthage TX

11. Orange Lutheran CA 

12. Westlake (Austin) TX

13. Oaks Christian CA 

14. Pittsburg CA (... Pittsburg?... This makes 7 of the Top 14 from CA... Let the CA over-scaling commence)

15. Bingham UT

16. DePaul Catholic NJ

17. Aledo TX

18. Archbishop Hoban OH

19. Mission Viejo CA (8 of the Top 19 from CA)

20. Katy TX

21. Bergen Catholic NJ

22. Brentwood Academy TN

23. Cy-Fair TX

24. American Heritage (Plantation) FL

25. St. Pius X TX

26. Good Counsel MD

27. St. John's DC

28. Pickerington Central OH

29. Hoover AL (A Georgia team has beaten Hoover 3 straight seasons. Twice by 3 TDs or more, but we cant get a higher preseason rating than them)

30. Trinity Christian (Cedar Hill) TX

31. Southlake Carroll TX

32. Servite CA (whhhooaaa, whered this come from)

33. De La Salle CA (10 CA teams in the Top 33)

34. Chandler AZ

35. Chaminade-Madonna FL

36. St. Peter's Prep NJ

37. Newton TX

38. Longview TX

39. Klein Collins TX (12 TX teams in the Top 39)

40. Eden Prairie MN

41. Christian Brothers MO

42. Ben Davis IN

43. Serra (San Mateo) CA

44. Rome GA

45. Lincoln-Way East IL

46. Murrieta Valley CA

47. Greenwood AR

48. La Salle OH

49. Serra (Gardena) CA

50. Mission Hills CA (14 of the Top 50 from CA)

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51. St. Ignatius OH

52. Bryant AR

53. Wekiva FL

54. Venice FL

55. The Woodlands TX

56. Fayetteville AR

57. Angleton TX

58. Starkville MS

59. Cardinal Gibbons FL

60. Thompson AL

61. Corona Centennial CA

62. Euless Trinity TX

63. Colerain OH

64. Punahou HI

65. St. Thomas Aquinas FL

66. Arlington TX

67. Lake Travis TX (17 of the Top 67 from TX)

68. Walton GA

69. Blessed Trinity GA

70. Archer GA

71. Bishop Amat CA

72. Lee Co. GA

73. Langham Creek TX

74. Northmont OH

75. Miami Northwestern FL

76. Olentangy Liberty OH

77. Trinity (Louisville) KY

78. Marietta GA

79. Highland ID

80. Colquitt Co. GA

81. Westfield TX

82. T.L. Hanna SC

83. McEachern GA

84. South Pointe SC

85. East (Salt Lake City) UT

86. Pickerington North OH

87. Bentonville AR

88. Blue Springs MO

89. Cedar Ridge TX

90. Torrey Pines CA

91. Duncanville TX

92. Warren Central IN

93. St. Anthony's NY

94. Pine-Richland PA

95. Pine Bluff AR

96. Highland Park TX

97. Bishop Dunne TX

98. Maryville TN

99. DeMatha MD

100. Covington Catholic KY

 

The Next 10...

101. Bishop Miege KS

102. Waco Midway TX

103. Kennedale TX

104. San Clemente CA

105. Dutch Fork SC

106. Rockhurst MO

107. Central (Fresno) CA

108. Mansfield Legacy TX (26 of Top 108 from TX)

109. Santa Margarita CA (20 of Top 109 from CA)

110. Owasso OK

 

 

Honestly, this is garbage.  Just another bogus poll made by bogus people put on a bogus web-site.  

lol they can't even get 1 state close to right (Texas) you really believe they can rank the nation?  

Trash!

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13 hours ago, ECHS05 said:

You'll notice "for fun" was repeated 3-4 times.

I believe things like "these ratings will change quite a bit before the season starts" or something close to that... And "none of the teams are officially rated yet" were all written in there somewhere.

 

The National Rankings are no better in November/December than they are now. The State/Class/Region Rankings are the only useful & halfway decent rankings CalPreps provides.

State rankings for FL was weak as well

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