Horsefly Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, noonereal said: do I need reword everything to compensate for your sensitivities? not about me, good grief, I am trying to teach the class how we run to tribe and tend to view people as part of the tribe or an adve not much room for middle ground, just like in politics. "and let me tell you how many will interpret my stance. They will assume my take makes me soft on discrimination." stop being so sensitive You were responding to ME you and presuming "I " was going to respond a certain way. I'm out...tired of your self aggrandizement. You want to teach a class? Then actually teach one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: the DA won't file charges as there was no evidence of trespassing, so the picture become more clear. The DA? I thought a trespassing complaint is filed by an individual towards another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: I'm out...tired of your self aggrandizement. You want to teach a class? Then actually teach one!! Honest, have some coffee or something. or is it just that time of the month? Come on dude, stop with the sensitive nonsense. You don't think that comment was made in jest as I know a little about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 17 hours ago, FootballGuy said: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/starbucks-apologizes-black-men-handcuffed-hustled-philadelphia-location-viral-video/ What do y'all think about this? I think I'd be careful, someone may claim this post as their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Sportsnut said: From what is shown, there was no reason for police and certainly no reason for handcuff's and arrest. maybe they were being arrested for not following a police order and they the cops decided not to file charges since Starbucks decided not to file trespassing charges? I am not defending anyone here, I simply can't accept things so superficially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, noonereal said: and let me tell you what you and everyone else is this tread will do. They will assume my take makes me soft on discrimination. Or dismissive of it. Maybe some will even think me a racist. And why? Because I want facts and don't want to base my decisions on generalities and assumptions. Frankly, I am suspect of the folks who read this story as "empty" as it is of context and made a rush to judgement. I would not want them on a jury if I were wrongly accused. Not from my perspective. I do realize that context is missing from the online report. I am just a bit bewildered, given the two men did not seem to be putting up resistance, that it resulted in a trip to the police station. Normally, such matters could have been resolved without having to resort to that. I guess I should be glad that no one was injured and at the end of the day only egos were bruised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Sportsnut said: Maybe they don't drink coffee. Come on, you understood the intent of his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, DarterBlue said: Normally, such matters could have been resolved without having to resort to that EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! So what happened to cause this??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? See, from what we see this does not make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportsnut said: Maybe they don't drink coffee. So how long in your twisted racial sociopath mind should 2 non-coffee drinkers be allowed to take up seats at a Starbucks? 5 minutes, 25 minutes, 1 hour? Anyways, they have more than coffee at Starbucks, you clown. Maybe they could have bought a juice, do they drink juice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 17 hours ago, FootballGuy said: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/starbucks-apologizes-black-men-handcuffed-hustled-philadelphia-location-viral-video/ What do y'all think about this? I dunno, I have questions, what did they do? Why aren't the men being vocal about the bust? With witnesses present, I'm going off vocally.... Dude is smiling, completely chill.... Why? He must of hit the lawsuit lotto with that grin. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 17 hours ago, FootballGuy said: dbl post, regrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I dunno, I have questions, what did they do? Why aren't the men being vocal about the bust? With witnesses present, I'm going off vocally.... Dude is smiling, completely chill.... Why? He must of hit the lawsuit lotto with that grin. We'll see. Not everyone is hot headed, they were being non confrontational and I agree, they may have figured they hit the lotto. I find it interesting the DA dismissed this and said there was no evidence of a crime. Don't know what they were arrested for, I read trespassing on another site. this is from Huffpost. "Ben Waxman, a spokesman for the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office, told HuffPost that the two men were released at 1:30 a.m. Friday. He said the DA will not bring charges against them. “We declined to bring charges against the two men because there was a lack of evidence that a crime was committed,” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Not everyone is hot headed, they were being non confrontational and I agree, they have have figured they hit the lotto. I find it interesting the DA dismissed this and said there was no evidence of a crime. Don't know what they were arrested for, I read trespassing on another site. this is from Huffpost. "Ben Waxman, a spokesman for the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office, told HuffPost that the two men were released at 1:30 a.m. Friday. He said the DA will not bring charges against them. “We declined to bring charges against the two men because there was a lack of evidence that a crime was committed,” I will definitely collect on this misdeed.... I definitely wouldn't be so calm about it, I wouldn't resist with the manpower and weapons aginst me, but things would be said and saw the grievance claim with damages through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: “We declined to bring charges against the two men because there was a lack of evidence that a crime was committed,” what was the crime they were suspected of? Loitering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: what was the crime they were suspected of? Loitering? dont know, trespassing was the only thing mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Sportsnut said: Not defending but not allowing for freedom in your eyes. They are different to you. It is because no white people were involved except to say nothing the guys did was wrong. Yet you still condemn the action of the black guys. This fits on the list. Nervous because black men are sitting. See @Horsefly As I predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sportsnut said: Not defending but not allowing for freedom in your eyes. They are different to you. It is because no white people were involved except to say nothing the guys did was wrong. Yet you still condemn the action of the black guys. This fits on the list. Nervous because black men are sitting. He's speculating because the article is unclear, get a grip and put the bomb down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: dont know, trespassing was the only thing mentioned. seems to me these guys will be getting free coffee for life and VIP treatment going forward. Which I am fine with if they in no way provoked or orchestrated this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: He's speculating because the article is unclear, get a grip and put the bomb down. What I am doing is the opposite, NOT speculating. Insisting that all information is in before I make a judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sportsnut said: Not defending but not allowing for freedom in your eyes. They are different to you. It is because no white people were involved except to say nothing the guys did was wrong. Yet you still condemn the action of the black guys. This fits on the list. Nervous because black men are sitting. Whatever to whatever you are trying to say.....I didn't say anyone was right or wrong. I'm NOT going to blow it up into a Civil War though, that's your job and purpose for being on this forum. It could have been handled differently. Sell your shit to someone else more on your level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, RedZone said: nm nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportsnut said: The article is clear and the authorities agreed, there was no reason for this to happen. The article is clear to those that don't have reason to lie. From your perspective it is clear. From mine it is missing context which would tell us much. Read my posts this morning on this and try to understand another's perspective. I, in no way faulted the blacks cuffed, I am simply reserving condemnation of the store workers or police till I know exactly what happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, noonereal said: What I am doing is the opposite, NOT speculating. Insisting that all information is in before I make a judgement. Okay, poor choice of words, indeed all information is NOT in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sportsnut said: The article is clear and the authorities agreed, there was no reason for this to happen. The article is clear to those that don't have reason to lie. What in the ACTUAL fuck is wrong with you? Sprinkle haldol in your wheaties, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, noonereal said: See @Horsefly As I predicted. Your only misstep was assuming I would be a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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