BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: To bad George Gervin played in a much tougher NBA era the 70s and nothing happened to him. When i hear, these slim guys would get killed in the 70-90s, I just think and what happened to George Gervin? George did NOT put his body on the line for shit. Especially defense Regards C.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted June 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, steeler01 said: Rodman is also 4 inches smaller. Add the wingspan in, and he's 6-7 inches smaller maybe more. KD unlike any 6'11/7'0 player in the 70-90s can shoot the three and drive past a defender to the rack. Rodman would be in a situation he didn't deal with ever(guarding a player on the perimeter) I think you’re forgetting that Rodman would guard Jordan when he was on the pistons for long periods of the game.Like I said great players will be great but in a series if you can throw them off one game it could be the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ararar said: I think you’re forgetting that Rodman would guard Jordan when he was on the pistons for long periods of the game.Like I said great players will be great but in a series if you can throw them off one game it could be the difference Warriors by 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, Ararar said: I think you’re forgetting that Rodman would guard Jordan when he was on the pistons for long periods of the game.Like I said great players will be great but in a series if you can throw them off one game it could be the difference Jordan is 6'6. Rodman is 6'7. KD is 6'11/7'0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: George did NOT put his body on the line for shit. Especially defense Regards C.A. He led the NBA in scoring 4x. Obviously this myth that the NBA was mixed martial arts is a farce. Back then, NBA players had to actually expend less energy, because of ISO ball. Many players just watched the one on one game in many possessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 It was physical then, gritty and physical for every George Gervin, you have Adrian Dantley, John Drew, Mark Aguirre, Bernard King, Physically strong small forwards that stand their ground. Expend less energy? No energy was spent in other areas, less finesse and more power. Played against John Drew, he would bring the ball down below the waist and extend arms up and out to gain contact on shooting motion and the foul and was strong enough to finish for the and 1. Mark Aguirre same thing, physical small forwards. Albeit Aguirre had a sweet turn around and a shot out to 3 Point line. Regards BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Expend less energy? No energy was spent in other areas, less finesse and more power. Much less energy. When offenses are centered around one guy that can ISO, while the other 4 clear out and watch. There's less energy expended on both sides for most individuals. Now a days you can't go ISO, defenses will adjust by shading the guy with the ball. That's why there's so much ball movement and player movement without the ball in today's game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, steeler01 said: Jordan is 6'6. Rodman is 6'7. KD is 6'11/7'0 At that point skill would have to come in play. I trust Rodman enough to atleast put up a fight on KD. And @Ararar dont feed the trolls... ignore him and he'll go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 Interesting stats on the NBA pace FG% 3pta through the decades.80’s was actually a faster pace than today with a better FG% today’s game takes 20-25 more 3 pointers per https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted June 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: At that point skill would have to come in play. I trust Rodman enough to atleast put up a fight on KD. And @Ararar dont feed the trolls... ignore him and he'll go away. He has a good point KD is a unique player but so was Rodman in his own way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: At that point skill would have to come in play. I trust Rodman enough to atleast put up a fight on KD. Skill? There's a reason SF that are 6'7 don't guard 6'11 guys. There's a reason you don't win bets, you have no clue about match ups or what you're watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 9 hours ago, steeler01 said: Much less energy. When offenses are centered around one guy that can ISO, while the other 4 clear out and watch. There's less energy expended on both sides for most individuals. Now a days you can't go ISO, defenses will adjust by shading the guy with the ball. That's why there's so much ball movement and player movement without the ball in today's game Let me simplify it... putting the dubs in the 80s era to play that style of basketball, with those rules and the physicality of the players and the culture in that era the dubs have no chance. The dubs will be roadkill. Flip the scrip and any team from that era, same result... to say the dubs are the greatest all time is bullshit. Ball movement doesn't mean shit if you cant advance the ball because you're getting rag dolled all over the place, Curry would be 7-8th off bench for offensive spark nothing more. Regards, BGW p.s.the fact that Block shares your sentiments, pretty much says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Let me simplify it... putting the dubs in the 80s era to play that style of basketball, with those rules and the physicality of the players and the culture in that era the dubs have no chance. The dubs will be roadkill. Flip the scrip and any team from that era, same result... to say the dubs are the greatest all time is bullshit. Ball movement doesn't mean shit if you cant advance the ball because you're getting rad dolled all over the place, Curry would be 7-8th off bench for offensive spark nothing more. Regards, BGW p.s.the fact that Block shares your sentiments, pretty much says it all. Pretty similar with Hornet sharing your views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, steeler01 said: Pretty similar with Hornet sharing your views. I''ll take Max every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Anytime, anywhere... quality people. Regards, C.A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I''ll take Max every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Anytime, anywhere... quality people. Regards, C.A. Quality people, is different than knowledgeable people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 47 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I''ll take Max every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Anytime, anywhere... quality people. Regards, C.A. Thanks, but I'm just in the background, reading. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, maxchoboian said: Thanks, but I'm just in the background, reading. bahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, steeler01 said: Quality people, is different than knowledgeable people Correction, quality and knowledgeable... I assumed you would take my meaning. My bad, BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendsofthefall Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 LeBron goes to the West and he's got to deal with GS just to get to the finals. Although I think if he goes to Houston they could beat GS but it's still far from a given. His best bet is Boston as much as it pains me to say that. They would need to unload Kyrie and some other piece. But LeBron, Tatum, Hayward, Brown & co. would match up real well with GS and their toughness/defense would bother them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 15 hours ago, steeler01 said: Much less energy. When offenses are centered around one guy that can ISO, while the other 4 clear out and watch. There's less energy expended on both sides for most individuals. Now a days you can't go ISO, defenses will adjust by shading the guy with the ball. That's why there's so much ball movement and player movement without the ball in today's game And just think. This Buford clown claims to have played basketball despite all the evidence so far being that he doesn't know jack spit about the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 15 hours ago, Ararar said: Interesting stats on the NBA pace FG% 3pta through the decades.80’s was actually a faster pace than today with a better FG% today’s game takes 20-25 more 3 pointers per https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html The key stat is effective FG% The three best years in league history? The last three. 2018 was 3% points better than any season in the 1980s. Math makes it nearly impossible for an 80s team to beat the Warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Ball movement doesn't mean shit if you cant advance the ball because you're getting rag dolled all over the place As if the Warriors wouldn't be able to bring the ball up? This fake old school tough guy stuff is embarrassing. Go watch ESPN Classic and all of your myths will be exposed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 5:06 PM, FolsomPrisonBlues said: The Warriors 16-17 was just rated best of all time by ESPN. The best of all time. Enjoy. Nobody cares what ESPN thinks Half the time they look foolish talking sports, they are nothing more than rating chasers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Nobody cares what ESPN thinks Half the time they look foolish talking sports, they are nothing more than rating chasers You mean East Coast Sports Network? Unbelievable to think they give the Dubs that love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: You mean East Coast Sports Network? Unbelievable to think they give the Dubs that love. Not really Those fools always hype up current teams because they know they will get more viewers talking about current warriors then talking about 80s Lakers or Celtics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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