TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Stephenson Jaguars HC Ron Gartrell has a long coaching history. He has been at Stephenson since 1996. Before Stephenson he was at Shamrock HS(Now Closed). He coached at Shamrock for 8 years before going to Stephenson. Fun facts about Gartrell. He has only had 1 losing season and 1 .500 season He has always put out D1 athletes no matter where he was. But the bad part is... He has never won a state title... Ron has had a good run. Stephenson under Rons leadership as a whole has put out more D1 talent than most top 25 schools STA included. IMO Yes. Ron has done alot he has done more than half of the top coaches in the nation. Despite the lack of state titles he by himself has put more kids in College programs than a vast majority of HS. But I think its time for him to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrepGridiron Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 If he does leave, they should really work on finding the coach that can take them to the next level. Everything I've ever seen/heard/read about Stephenson is that they have the talent to compete with anyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 hours ago, PrepGridiron said: If he does leave, they should really work on finding the coach that can take them to the next level. Everything I've ever seen/heard/read about Stephenson is that they have the talent to compete with anyone. Rons shoes would be hard to fill... But Dekalb county suffers because not alot of coaches wanna coach there.... I dont wanna get it wrong but from what Ive heard... Dekalb is kinda like the Palm Beach/S.FL schools in a sense... Great schools tons of Great Athletes but the county does not pay out a lot.... If I remember Correct there has been times where Tucker had to practice using the headlights from coaches cars.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Most of the Coaches who coach Dekalb schools are alumni's of Dekalb County HS's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Same with Henry County High schools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I say NO, Coach Gantrell is a stand up kind of guy who does one hell of a job getting kids into college. He is a very good coach and motivator and kids buy into his program. I had a chance to meet him personally in 2005 while Ken Hale Jr played there and was deciding on Delaware as a college option, Gantrell was really cool how he handled things with his kids. Now with that said, would people say he underachieves, sure with the talent he has some might think he should be in the state title game every season; however, remember that some of his best teams ran into Gwinnett Co buzzsaws but his teams gave those buzzsaws all they could handle. Heck one of his best teams, prob 2001, ran into Valdosta and Parkview that season and gave both all they could handle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, sausmann9 said: I say NO, Coach Gantrell is a stand up kind of guy who does one hell of a job getting kids into college. He is a very good coach and motivator and kids buy into his program. I had a chance to meet him personally in 2005 while Ken Hale Jr played there and was deciding on Delaware as a college option, Gantrell was really cool how he handled things with his kids. Now with that said, would people say he underachieves, sure with the talent he has some might think he should be in the state title game every season; however, remember that some of his best teams ran into Gwinnett Co buzzsaws but his teams gave those buzzsaws all they could handle. Heck one of his best teams, prob 2001, ran into Valdosta and Parkview that season and gave both all they could handle. This is true.... Steohenson will win one before He goes though... I feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 12 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Rons shoes would be hard to fill... I literally LOL'd. Yeah, having all those SEC kids lose in the first-second round of the 5A playoffs every year must be threatening to future prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 To Sausmann's point, Gartrell will work his ass off to get you to college. He makes sure every kid is represented equally from NCAA D1 to NAIA and D3. He is also a very good man from what I've read. That said, he's not winning you a championship. It's up to the AD/community decide what means more. (They've clearly accepted their decision) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 0:18 PM, ATLien12x said: To Sausmann's point, Gartrell will work his ass off to get you to college. He makes sure every kid is represented equally from NCAA D1 to NAIA and D3. He is also a very good man from what I've read. That said, he's not winning you a championship. It's up to the AD/community decide what means more. (They've clearly accepted their decision) What he needs is a better OC and/or DC but again remember many of his kids don't always go through the same/best youth programs either, he's still "shaping" some of his kids but at other schools those kids are already "shaped" by the time they reach high school ball.. He's taking what he gets and still making things happen. I may move him around in the program but I would never get rid of him. He might be the reason some of the better athletes stay as a Jag. Weren't the Ball bros. being heavily "swayed" back in 01/02 time frame and they stayed b/c of RG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Bump... On 1/26/2017 at 6:19 PM, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Stephenson Jaguars HC Ron Gartrell has a long coaching history. He has been at Stephenson since 1996. Before Stephenson he was at Shamrock HS(Now Closed). He coached at Shamrock for 8 years before going to Stephenson. Fun facts about Gartrell. He has only had 1 losing season and 1 .500 season He has always put out D1 athletes no matter where he was. But the bad part is... He has never won a state title... Ron has had a good run. Stephenson under Rons leadership as a whole has put out more D1 talent than most top 25 schools STA included. IMO Yes. Ron has done alot he has done more than half of the top coaches in the nation. Despite the lack of state titles he by himself has put more kids in College programs than a vast majority of HS. But I think its time for him to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 12:16 PM, ATLien12x said: I literally LOL'd. Yeah, having all those SEC kids lose in the first-second round of the 5A playoffs every year must be threatening to future prospects. Squandering talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 10:11 AM, sausmann9 said: I say NO, Coach Gantrell is a stand up kind of guy who does one hell of a job getting kids into college. He is a very good coach and motivator and kids buy into his program. I had a chance to meet him personally in 2005 while Ken Hale Jr played there and was deciding on Delaware as a college option, Gantrell was really cool how he handled things with his kids. Now with that said, would people say he underachieves, sure with the talent he has some might think he should be in the state title game every season; however, remember that some of his best teams ran into Gwinnett Co buzzsaws but his teams gave those buzzsaws all they could handle. Heck one of his best teams, prob 2001, ran into Valdosta and Parkview that season and gave both all they could handle. Colquitt's only experience with Gartrell and Stephenson came in 2009! When a grossly undermanned Packer team, managed to fashion out a 22-21 upset win at Hallford Stadium in Stone Mountain! Talent wise, this Stephenson team was arguably one of the best in GHSA history! Coach ProPst has said many times, that that Stephenson D was the best he ever saw! But call it arrogance, lack of preparation, or the aligning of the planets! But the Packers prevailed with a 100 yards total offense! They scored on a PICK SIX, a forty yard FG after a turnover, and a forty yard screen pass to the ONE, where we got one of those FG'S!! And two KO returns of 75 and 83 yards to set up short scoring drives! For some reason, Stephenson was HELL BENT to prove that they could stop SUPER MAN(Quin Roberson) from returning those kicks! And about Stephenson or anybody ELSE in metro's talent pool! Does ANYBODY in their right mind, think that ANY of these metro schools play with the talent in their crappy lil districts? The SAME thing happened to Franklin Stephens at Tucker! BAD to da BONE in metro! Then, he goes into the swampland of Ware Co., and he DISAPPEARS! Cause Waycross ain't close to NUTTIN that he could tap into, talent wise! While having some very good staffs during his tenure in DeKalb county! Gartrell appears to have mental implosions in crunch time! THUS, his shortcomings in the playoffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Squandering talent. Every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 12:18 PM, ATLien12x said: To Sausmann's point, Gartrell will work his ass off to get you to college. He makes sure every kid is represented equally from NCAA D1 to NAIA and D3. He is also a very good man from what I've read. That said, he's not winning you a championship. It's up to the AD/community decide what means more. (They've clearly accepted their decision) But it's POSSIBLE to have BOTH, like they do in Moultrie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, ORabidOne said: But it's POSSIBLY to have BOTH, like they do in Moultrie! Lol why are people quoting posts from January lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, ATLien12x said: Lol why are people quoting posts from January lol STA thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: STA thread. Are people mentioning this thread in the STA one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Are people mentioning this thread in the STA one? STA's squandering talent was discussed. I introduced Sammy to the #1 example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: STA's squandering talent was discussed. I introduced Sammy to the #1 example. Good thinking. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted December 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: STA's squandering talent was discussed. I introduced Sammy to the #1 example. 6 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Good thinking. I agree Heres the difference... No one holds Stephenson to the standards that STA is held too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Heres the difference... No one holds Stephenson to the standards that STA is held too. Ask the local fans and you may get a different reply... you see nobody knows who STA is for the most part from other states. Nobody cares. On this forum STA, DLS, DBP, etc. mean something. We are a very small and twisted group of fans who follow national hs football (some of us here don't even do that... just follow one state and homer it). If Gartrell didn't squander talent as the #1 example, they'd have higher standards from more folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 hours ago, golfaddict1 said: Ask the local fans and you may get a different reply... you see nobody knows who STA is for the most part from other states. Nobody cares. On this forum STA, DLS, DBP, etc. mean something. We are a very small and twisted group of fans who follow national hs football (some of us here don't even do that... just follow one state and homer it). If Gartrell didn't squander talent as the #1 example, they'd have higher standards from more folks. I try to keep up with them, to see who they have stolen recently! I remember when the best WR in FSU history, was stolen from Albany, Ga., soon to arrive at STA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, ORabidOne said: I try to keep up with them, to see who they have stolen recently! I remember when the best WR in FSU history, was stolen from Albany, Ga., soon to arrive at STA! His dad raised in ft Laud. and went to HS with an STA assistant coach. He reached out to the coach. Yada yada yada.... NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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