ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 My Preseason Top 130... Ive been moving teams around for weeks, I feel like this is the best Preseason poll out by far right now. But its mine so I should feel that way, let me know what you guys think. I was very back and forth on #1 ... SJB held it for a few days, then I changed it to Mater Dei for a couple days... And I finally landed on IMG today. This'll all be hashed out eventually. I came up with 130, because I put teams in State pods at first based on who I thought could be Top 100 worthy from each state. I got rid of a few that didnt look right on the list with the others, and landed on 130. (You'll notice I have the # of Returning Starters for a lot of teams, but not for others ... Theres simply too many teams to get this info. for , and I wanted my rankings out as I felt good about them ... I may continue to get returning starter info. for the rest over time before the season starts ... ) Ranking / Team & State / Last Years Record / # Of Returning Starters 1. IMG Academy USA ... (8-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 2. St. John Bosco CA ... (11-3) ; Off. = 7/11 , Def. = 5/11 3. Mater Dei CA ... (15-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 4. Lake Travis TX ... (13-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 5. St. John's DC ... (9-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 6. Allen TX ... (16-0) ; O = 3/11 ; 6/11 7. Bishop Gorman NV ... (13-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 8. Chandler AZ ... (13-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 4/11 9. Cardinal Gibbons FL ... (11-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 10. North Gwinnett GA ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 11. University Lab LA ... (13-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 8/11 12. St. Thomas Aquinas FL ... (10-3) 13. St. Frances Academy MD ... (13-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 6/11 14. DeMatha MD ... (6-5) 15. Dutch Fork SC ... (13-1) ; O = 9/11 , D = 5/11 16. Marietta GA ... (8-5) ; O = 10/11 ; D = 9/11 17. Katy TX ... (12-1) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 18. Bergen Catholic NJ ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 19. Archbishop Hoban OH ... (14-1) 20. Colquitt Co. GA ... (11-4) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 5/11 21. St. Joseph Regional NJ (8-4) 22. De La Salle CA ... (11-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 7/11 23. Converse Judson TX ... (10-2) 24. Hoover AL ... (11-3) ; Returners: O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 25. Corona Centennial CA ... (10-2) 26. Grayson ... (10-2) 27. Westlake (Austin) TX ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 5/11 28. St. Edward OH ... (10-2) 29. Trinity (Louisville) KY ... (15-0) 30. St. Louis HI ... (10-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 31. Orange Lutheran CA ... (6-6) 32. Cy-Fair TX ... (15-0) ; O = 6/11 , D = 3/11 33. Mission Viejo CA ... (12-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 2/11 34. Muskegon MI ... (14-0) 35. North Little Rock AR ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 36. Good Counsel MD ... (8-3) ; O = 10/11 , D = 7/11 37. Owasso OK ... (12-1) 38. Duncanville TX ... (11-1) 39. Wekiva FL ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 7/11 40. North Shore TX ... (9-4) 41. Colerain OH ... (11-3) 42. Folsom CA ... (16-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 43. Catholic (Baton Rouge) LA ... (11-3) ; O = 8/11 , D = 4/11 44. Saguaro AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 8/11 45. Oaks Christian CA ... (12-3) 46. Zachary LA ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 47. Chaminade-Madonna FL ... (11-2) 48. Warren Central IN ... (7-4) 49. Rome GA ... (15-0) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 4/11 50. Carol City FL ... (8-4) 51. Pickerington Central OH ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 4/11 52. St. Peter's Prep NJ ... (9-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 53. T.L. Hanna SC ... (11-1) 54. Brentwood Academy TN ... (12-0) 55. St. Ignatius OH ... (11-2) 56. Archer GA ... (12-1) 57. Oakland TN ... (13-1) 58. Immokalee FL ... (12-1) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 59. Narbonne CA ... (12-3) 60. Union (Tulsa) OK ... (12-1) 61. American Heritage (Plantation) FL ... (13-0) ; O = 1/11 , D = 2/11 62. Buford GA ... (11-2) 63. Aledo TX ... (15-1) 64. Loyola Academy IL ... (12-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 7/11 65. Thompson AL ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 4/11 66. St. Joseph's Prep PA ... (13-1) 67. Lincoln-Way East IL ... (14-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 68. Pinson Valley AL ... (15-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 69. Klein Collins TX ... (11-1) 70. Perry AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 71. Edna Karr LA ... (14-1) 72. Longview TX ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 3/11 73. Phillips IL ... (14-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 74. DePaul Catholic NJ ... (8-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 75. South Pointe SC ... (15-0) 76. Chaminade CA ... (9-2) 77. Bingham UT ... (13-1) 78. Venice FL ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 79. Southlake Carroll TX ... (10-4) 80. McEachern GA ... (10-4) 81. Hewitt-Trussville AL ... (11-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 82. Christian Brothers MO ... (13-1) 83. Central (Phenix City) AL ... (11-1) 84. Maryville TN ... (14-1) 85. Starkville MS ... (12-3) 86. Carmel IN ... (8-5) ; O = 7/11 , D = 8/11 87. M.L. King MI ... (11-2) 88. St. Xavier OH ... (11-2) 89. Walton GA ... (11-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 90. Pittsburg CA ... (9-3) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 91. West Point MS ... (15-0) 92. La Salle OH ... (10-3) 93. Westfield TX ... (11-1) 94. Blessed Trinity GA ... (13-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 95. Apopka FL ... (8-4) 96. Warren Easton LA ... (10-3) 97. Lufkin TX ... (11-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 98. Pinnacle AZ ... (9-4) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 99. Mansfield Legacy TX ... (12-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 100. Maine South IL ... (11-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 8/11 101. Imhotep Charter PA ... (12-2) 102. Serra (Gardena) CA ... (6-5) 103. Euless Trinity TX ... (11-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 104. Mallard Creek NC ... (11-1) 105. Liberty NV ... (11-2) 106. Pulaski Academy AR ... (14-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 107. Deerfield Beach FL ... (8-3) 108. Mililani HI ... (9-2) 109. De La Salle Collegiate MI ...(12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 110. Miami Central FL ... (9-3) 111. Kahuku HI ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 112. Centennial AZ ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 113. De La Salle LA ... (11-1) 114. Bishop Miege KS ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 115. Trotwood-Madison OH ... (15-0) 116. Wake Forest NC ... (15-0) 117. Armwood FL ... (14-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 118. Punahou HI ... (5-3) 119. Mentor OH ... (13-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 5/11 120. Smithson Valley TX ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 121. Orem UT ... (12-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 5/11 122. Cedar Ridge TX ... (13-2) 123. Cass Tech MI ... (9-3) 124. Serra (San Mateo) CA ... (13-2) 125. Gonzaga DC ... (8-4) 126. Milton GA ... (9-3) 127. Miami Northwestern FL ... (12-3) 128. John Curtis LA ... (11-2) 129. Central (Fresno) CA ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 130. Coppell TX ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 North Gwinnett? Ummmm no. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 St. Frances Academy was in the Top 5 until they lost their QB Jalon Jones to a VA team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: North Gwinnett? Ummmm no. They went 14-1 last season and won State beating Grayson, Marietta, McEachern, and Colquitt on the way to it... bring back 7 on O and 6 on D ... Including their top 2 running backs on O, basically their entire WR corp, and their new QB looks good... Their HC Bill Stewart won state in his 1st season, hes going into his 2nd which is usually the best season for a HC. Idk why so many are ranking North Gwinnett in the 4-8 range in GA, but I think their idiots. North Gwinnett is the CLEAR #1 in Georgia this preseason. You just got smashed. Thanks. Remember this last year... North Gwinnett 35, Grayson 28 North Gwinnett 51, Marietta 41 North Gwinnett 38, McEachern 17 North Gwinnett 19, Colquitt Co. 17 All 4 of those teams NG beat in the playoffs are highly ranked nationally most everywhere this preseason. -- Not that this matters THAT much, but North Gwinnett went undefeated, crushing everyone, in the Corky Kell 7on7 until they met Marietta (who also crushed everyone) in the Finals and lost in double OT 36-35. North Gwinnett running game is going to be very, very good. If their passing game is on par with it... Look for NG to repeat. Literally my only concern was NG losing 3* OLB Jayden McDonald (Iowa signee)... He was incredible in the playoffs. The Overall MVP of the 7A Playoffs by far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I honestly feel like I fell victim to the Folsom hype even putting them at #42 ... they havent proven anything at all with who theyve beaten. If they beat DLS and Chammy Ill reconsider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Great work and effort. I like it. ive got my eyes on north shore, quality talent coming back with all units. They will have a more balanced attack as their QB has matured a lot through the spring. Expect the NS trademark defense to return. Here's their calpreps summary their best talent may be in their 2021 class with returning QB and WR which are both rated in the top 2 and 3 respectively in TX at their positon/class they play #17 Katy in week 1 and #93 Westfield week 3...good matchups RETURNERSReturning Offensive Starters: 7Returning Defensive Starters: 4D1 PROSPECTSDamieon George 6-6 320 Junior OT Corey Flagg 5-10 210 Junior ILB Joseph Wilson 6-0 160 Junior CB Zachary Evans 5-11 200 Junior RB Tony Bradford 6'0" 235 Senior WDE Ajani Carter 6'2" 175 Senior WR Keeyon Stewart 5'11" 160 Senior CB Rayveon Shelton 6'1" 170 Senior CB Jordan Revels 6'0" 245 Senior SDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Newton? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think Colerain is a bit high in your rankings until they settle their QB play although they bring back a bunch of athletes LaSalle NOT a 100 team teams better IMO in Ohio are Winton Woods, Pick North& Elder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 BC over Grayson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I like where the devil is. But OLU is to high and Jaerra should be right with OLU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 #113 De La Salle (NOLA) Good luck with that this year......ain't happening. Leaving Destrehan, Hahnville, John Ehret, West Monroe and a couple others off is pretty silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kurkjian Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Great job, man. No one is going to 100 percent agree with any national poll, but you watch as much film as anyone on this site and do your homework, which is all you can ask for out of a pollster. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Packer Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 I think that those are decent preseason rankings. Great job! I think we will all disagree with things here and there but that’s a solid list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: They went 14-1 last season and won State beating Grayson, Marietta, McEachern, and Colquitt on the way to it... bring back 7 on O and 6 on D ... Including their top 2 running backs on O, basically their entire WR corp, and their new QB looks good... Their HC Bill Stewart won state in his 1st season, hes going into his 2nd which is usually the best season for a HC. Idk why so many are ranking North Gwinnett in the 4-8 range in GA, but I think their idiots. North Gwinnett is the CLEAR #1 in Georgia this preseason. You just got smashed. Thanks. Remember this last year... North Gwinnett 35, Grayson 28 North Gwinnett 51, Marietta 41 North Gwinnett 38, McEachern 17 North Gwinnett 19, Colquitt Co. 17 All 4 of those teams NG beat in the playoffs are highly ranked nationally most everywhere this preseason. -- Not that this matters THAT much, but North Gwinnett went undefeated, crushing everyone, in the Corky Kell 7on7 until they met Marietta (who also crushed everyone) in the Finals and lost in double OT 36-35. North Gwinnett running game is going to be very, very good. If their passing game is on par with it... Look for NG to repeat. Literally my only concern was NG losing 3* OLB Jayden McDonald (Iowa signee)... He was incredible in the playoffs. The Overall MVP of the 7A Playoffs by far. That is a tainted title always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: My Preseason Top 130... Ive been moving teams around for weeks, I feel like this is the best Preseason poll out by far right now. But its mine so I should feel that way, let me know what you guys think. I was very back and forth on #1 ... SJB held it for a few days, then I changed it to Mater Dei for a couple days... And I finally landed on IMG today. This'll all be hashed out eventually. I came up with 130, because I put teams in State pods at first based on who I thought could be Top 100 worthy from each state. I got rid of a few that didnt look right on the list with the others, and landed on 130. (You'll notice I have the # of Returning Starters for a lot of teams, but not for others ... Theres simply too many teams to get this info. for , and I wanted my rankings out as I felt good about them ... I may continue to get returning starter info. for the rest over time before the season starts ... ) Ranking / Team & State / Last Years Record / # Of Returning Starters 1. IMG Academy USA ... (8-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 2. St. John Bosco CA ... (11-3) ; Off. = 7/11 , Def. = 5/11 3. Mater Dei CA ... (15-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 4. Lake Travis TX ... (13-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 5. St. John's DC ... (9-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 6. Allen TX ... (16-0) ; O = 3/11 ; 6/11 7. Bishop Gorman NV ... (13-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 8. Chandler AZ ... (13-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 4/11 9. Cardinal Gibbons FL ... (11-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 10. North Gwinnett GA ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 11. University Lab LA ... (13-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 8/11 12. St. Thomas Aquinas FL ... (10-3) 13. St. Frances Academy MD ... (13-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 6/11 14. DeMatha MD ... (6-5) 15. Dutch Fork SC ... (13-1) ; O = 9/11 , D = 5/11 16. Marietta GA ... (8-5) ; O = 10/11 ; D = 9/11 17. Katy TX ... (12-1) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 18. Bergen Catholic NJ ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 19. Archbishop Hoban OH ... (14-1) 20. Grayson GA ... (10-2) 21. St. Joseph Regional NJ (8-4) 22. De La Salle CA ... (11-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 7/11 23. Converse Judson TX ... (10-2) 24. Hoover AL ... (11-3) ; Returners: O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 25. Corona Centennial CA ... (10-2) 26. Colerain OH ... (11-3) 27. Orange Lutheran CA ... (6-6) 28. Westlake (Austin) TX ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 5/11 29. Trinity (Louisville) KY ... (15-0) 30. North Little Rock AR ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 31. Cy-Fair TX ... (15-0) ; O = 6/11 , D = 3/11 32. St. Edward OH ... (10-2) 33. Colquitt Co. GA ... (11-4) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 5/11 34. Mission Viejo CA ... (12-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 2/11 35. Good Counsel MD ... (8-3) ; O = 10/11 , D = 7/11 36. St. Louis HI ... (10-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 37. Duncanville TX ... (11-1) 38. Muskegon MI ... (14-0) 39. Owasso OK ... (12-1) 40. Wekiva FL ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 7/11 41. North Shore TX ... (9-4) 42. Folsom CA ... (16-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 43. Saguaro AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 8/11 44. Catholic (Baton Rouge) LA ... (11-3) ; O = 8/11 , D = 4/11 45. Oaks Christian CA ... (12-3) 46. Zachary LA ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 47. Chaminade-Madonna FL ... (11-2) 48. Warren Central IN ... (7-4) 49. Rome GA ... (15-0) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 4/11 50. Carol City FL ... (8-4) 51. Pickerington Central OH ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 4/11 52. St. Peter's Prep NJ ... (9-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 53. T.L. Hanna SC ... (11-1) 54. Brentwood Academy TN ... (12-0) 55. St. Ignatius OH ... (11-2) 56. Archer GA ... (12-1) 57. Oakland TN ... (13-1) 58. Immokalee FL ... (12-1) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 59. Narbonne CA ... (12-3) 60. Union (Tulsa) OK ... (12-1) 61. American Heritage (Plantation) FL ... (13-0) ; O = 1/11 , D = 2/11 62. Buford GA ... (11-2) 63. Aledo TX ... (15-1) 64. Loyola Academy IL ... (12-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 7/11 65. Thompson AL ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 4/11 66. St. Joseph's Prep PA ... (13-1) 67. Lincoln-Way East IL ... (14-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 68. Pinson Valley AL ... (15-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 69. Klein Collins TX ... (11-1) 70. Perry AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 71. Edna Karr LA ... (14-1) 72. Longview TX ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 3/11 73. Phillips IL ... (14-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 74. DePaul Catholic NJ ... (8-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 75. South Pointe SC ... (15-0) 76. Chaminade CA ... (9-2) 77. Bingham UT ... (13-1) 78. Venice FL ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 79. Southlake Carroll TX ... (10-4) 80. McEachern GA ... (10-4) 81. Hewitt-Trussville AL ... (11-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 82. Christian Brothers MO ... (13-1) 83. Central (Phenix City) AL ... (11-1) 84. Maryville TN ... (14-1) 85. Starkville MS ... (12-3) 86. Carmel IN ... (8-5) ; O = 7/11 , D = 8/11 87. M.L. King MI ... (11-2) 88. St. Xavier OH ... (11-2) 89. Walton GA ... (11-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 90. Pittsburg CA ... (9-3) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 91. West Point MS ... (15-0) 92. La Salle OH ... (10-3) 93. Westfield TX ... (11-1) 94. Blessed Trinity GA ... (13-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 95. Apopka FL ... (8-4) 96. Warren Easton LA ... (10-3) 97. Lufkin TX ... (11-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 98. Pinnacle AZ ... (9-4) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 99. Mansfield Legacy TX ... (12-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 100. Maine South IL ... (11-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 8/11 101. Imhotep Charter PA ... (12-2) 102. Serra (Gardena) CA ... (6-5) 103. Euless Trinity TX ... (11-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 104. Mallard Creek NC ... (11-1) 105. Liberty NV ... (11-2) 106. Pulaski Academy AR ... (14-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 107. Deerfield Beach FL ... (8-3) 108. Mililani HI ... (9-2) 109. De La Salle Collegiate MI ...(12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 110. Miami Central FL ... (9-3) 111. Kahuku HI ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 112. Centennial AZ ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 113. De La Salle LA ... (11-1) 114. Bishop Miege KS ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 115. Trotwood-Madison OH ... (15-0) 116. Wake Forest NC ... (15-0) 117. Armwood FL ... (14-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 118. Punahou HI ... (5-3) 119. Mentor OH ... (13-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 5/11 120. Smithson Valley TX ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 121. Orem UT ... (12-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 5/11 122. Cedar Ridge TX ... (13-2) 123. Cass Tech MI ... (9-3) 124. Serra (San Mateo) CA ... (13-2) 125. Gonzaga DC ... (8-4) 126. Milton GA ... (9-3) 127. Miami Northwestern FL ... (12-3) 128. John Curtis LA ... (11-2) 129. Central (Fresno) CA ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 130. Coppell TX ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 I honestly don't think IMG should start at number 1 but the top 10 looks good by me MNW probably should be a little higher, i would say just slightly ahead of Armwood would be fair Teams from FL that are worth considering as season progresses Lakeland Palm Beach Central Dwyer Overall it looks good though, i would change a few things but that's the thing with human polls, no one gonna have the same exact placement Everyone gonna have their own hook and change from place to place but the foundation is solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 you have Cardinal Gibbons better than every team in the state of Georgia. The 5A team that gave up 58 in their last game against a top tier team, won only four games two year ago, is somehow better than everyone in the Peach state 🤣🤣? If you say so. I bet in December if the top 7A team is 14-0, you’ll be telling folks other wise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORabidOne Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: My Preseason Top 130... Ive been moving teams around for weeks, I feel like this is the best Preseason poll out by far right now. But its mine so I should feel that way, let me know what you guys think. I was very back and forth on #1 ... SJB held it for a few days, then I changed it to Mater Dei for a couple days... And I finally landed on IMG today. This'll all be hashed out eventually. I came up with 130, because I put teams in State pods at first based on who I thought could be Top 100 worthy from each state. I got rid of a few that didnt look right on the list with the others, and landed on 130. (You'll notice I have the # of Returning Starters for a lot of teams, but not for others ... Theres simply too many teams to get this info. for , and I wanted my rankings out as I felt good about them ... I may continue to get returning starter info. for the rest over time before the season starts ... ) Ranking / Team & State / Last Years Record / # Of Returning Starters 1. IMG Academy USA ... (8-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 2. St. John Bosco CA ... (11-3) ; Off. = 7/11 , Def. = 5/11 3. Mater Dei CA ... (15-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 4. Lake Travis TX ... (13-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 5. St. John's DC ... (9-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 6. Allen TX ... (16-0) ; O = 3/11 ; 6/11 7. Bishop Gorman NV ... (13-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 8. Chandler AZ ... (13-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 4/11 9. Cardinal Gibbons FL ... (11-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 10. North Gwinnett GA ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 11. University Lab LA ... (13-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 8/11 12. St. Thomas Aquinas FL ... (10-3) 13. St. Frances Academy MD ... (13-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 6/11 14. DeMatha MD ... (6-5) 15. Dutch Fork SC ... (13-1) ; O = 9/11 , D = 5/11 16. Marietta GA ... (8-5) ; O = 10/11 ; D = 9/11 17. Katy TX ... (12-1) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 18. Bergen Catholic NJ ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 19. Archbishop Hoban OH ... (14-1) 20. Grayson GA ... (10-2) 21. St. Joseph Regional NJ (8-4) 22. De La Salle CA ... (11-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 7/11 23. Converse Judson TX ... (10-2) 24. Hoover AL ... (11-3) ; Returners: O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 25. Corona Centennial CA ... (10-2) 26. Colerain OH ... (11-3) 27. Orange Lutheran CA ... (6-6) 28. Westlake (Austin) TX ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 5/11 29. Trinity (Louisville) KY ... (15-0) 30. North Little Rock AR ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 31. Cy-Fair TX ... (15-0) ; O = 6/11 , D = 3/11 32. St. Edward OH ... (10-2) 33. Colquitt Co. GA ... (11-4) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 5/11 34. Mission Viejo CA ... (12-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 2/11 35. Good Counsel MD ... (8-3) ; O = 10/11 , D = 7/11 36. St. Louis HI ... (10-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 37. Duncanville TX ... (11-1) 38. Muskegon MI ... (14-0) 39. Owasso OK ... (12-1) 40. Wekiva FL ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 7/11 41. North Shore TX ... (9-4) 42. Folsom CA ... (16-0) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 43. Saguaro AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 8/11 44. Catholic (Baton Rouge) LA ... (11-3) ; O = 8/11 , D = 4/11 45. Oaks Christian CA ... (12-3) 46. Zachary LA ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 47. Chaminade-Madonna FL ... (11-2) 48. Warren Central IN ... (7-4) 49. Rome GA ... (15-0) ; O = 8/11 ; D = 4/11 50. Carol City FL ... (8-4) 51. Pickerington Central OH ... (14-1) ; O = 3/11 , D = 4/11 52. St. Peter's Prep NJ ... (9-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 53. T.L. Hanna SC ... (11-1) 54. Brentwood Academy TN ... (12-0) 55. St. Ignatius OH ... (11-2) 56. Archer GA ... (12-1) 57. Oakland TN ... (13-1) 58. Immokalee FL ... (12-1) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 59. Narbonne CA ... (12-3) 60. Union (Tulsa) OK ... (12-1) 61. American Heritage (Plantation) FL ... (13-0) ; O = 1/11 , D = 2/11 62. Buford GA ... (11-2) 63. Aledo TX ... (15-1) 64. Loyola Academy IL ... (12-2) ; O = 4/11 , D = 7/11 65. Thompson AL ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 4/11 66. St. Joseph's Prep PA ... (13-1) 67. Lincoln-Way East IL ... (14-0) ; O = 4/11 , D = 2/11 68. Pinson Valley AL ... (15-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 69. Klein Collins TX ... (11-1) 70. Perry AZ ... (12-2) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 71. Edna Karr LA ... (14-1) 72. Longview TX ... (13-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 3/11 73. Phillips IL ... (14-0) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 74. DePaul Catholic NJ ... (8-3) ; O = 4/11 , D = 5/11 75. South Pointe SC ... (15-0) 76. Chaminade CA ... (9-2) 77. Bingham UT ... (13-1) 78. Venice FL ... (14-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 79. Southlake Carroll TX ... (10-4) 80. McEachern GA ... (10-4) 81. Hewitt-Trussville AL ... (11-1) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 82. Christian Brothers MO ... (13-1) 83. Central (Phenix City) AL ... (11-1) 84. Maryville TN ... (14-1) 85. Starkville MS ... (12-3) 86. Carmel IN ... (8-5) ; O = 7/11 , D = 8/11 87. M.L. King MI ... (11-2) 88. St. Xavier OH ... (11-2) 89. Walton GA ... (11-1) ; O = 5/11 ; D = 5/11 90. Pittsburg CA ... (9-3) ; O = 7/11 , D = 7/11 91. West Point MS ... (15-0) 92. La Salle OH ... (10-3) 93. Westfield TX ... (11-1) 94. Blessed Trinity GA ... (13-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 7/11 95. Apopka FL ... (8-4) 96. Warren Easton LA ... (10-3) 97. Lufkin TX ... (11-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 98. Pinnacle AZ ... (9-4) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 99. Mansfield Legacy TX ... (12-3) ; O = 6/11 , D = 5/11 100. Maine South IL ... (11-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 8/11 101. Imhotep Charter PA ... (12-2) 102. Serra (Gardena) CA ... (6-5) 103. Euless Trinity TX ... (11-3) ; O = 5/11 , D = 4/11 104. Mallard Creek NC ... (11-1) 105. Liberty NV ... (11-2) 106. Pulaski Academy AR ... (14-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 5/11 107. Deerfield Beach FL ... (8-3) 108. Mililani HI ... (9-2) 109. De La Salle Collegiate MI ...(12-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 6/11 110. Miami Central FL ... (9-3) 111. Kahuku HI ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 112. Centennial AZ ... (12-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 113. De La Salle LA ... (11-1) 114. Bishop Miege KS ... (13-0) ; O = 7/11 , D = 6/11 115. Trotwood-Madison OH ... (15-0) 116. Wake Forest NC ... (15-0) 117. Armwood FL ... (14-1) ; O = 5/11 , D = 3/11 118. Punahou HI ... (5-3) 119. Mentor OH ... (13-2) ; O = 2/11 , D = 5/11 120. Smithson Valley TX ... (10-2) ; O = 5/11 , D = 5/11 121. Orem UT ... (12-2) ; O = 8/11 , D = 5/11 122. Cedar Ridge TX ... (13-2) 123. Cass Tech MI ... (9-3) 124. Serra (San Mateo) CA ... (13-2) 125. Gonzaga DC ... (8-4) 126. Milton GA ... (9-3) 127. Miami Northwestern FL ... (12-3) 128. John Curtis LA ... (11-2) 129. Central (Fresno) CA ... (12-2) ; O = 6/11 , D = 6/11 130. Coppell TX ... (11-2) ; O = 7/11 , D = 4/11 You'll ALWAYS be golden, so long as you have Cali and Texas as the majority of your TOP FIFTY! Is it to ANYBODY'S surprise, that 21 of your top 25, are OPEN ENROLLMENT or RECRUITED UP? Who gave you the 411 on Colquitt's returning starters? You DO realize of course, that they used twenty five players on both sides of the ball? So, they essentially are returning 19 starters and significant back ups! Steven, Cam, and J.J. were about the only major contributors who had to be replaced!!!!!!!!!!!! As an aside, SIMPLE question IF I may? Why are you folks SOOOO hell bent to equate teams who draw from MILLIONS, with REGULAR high school football teams? TRUTH be known, the coaches at IMG, SJB, MD, and the like, couldn't find their asses without recruits! And does ANYBODY think that a great coach is going to stay at the high school level? When half ass decent assistants in major colleges, earn mid six figures! DA STACHE probably lives in a fucking TRAILER PARK! Because I doubt VERY seriously, if he stayed for thirty years at a school that cain't even afford their own STADIUM, If ANYBODY significant wanted his services on the college level! HELL, look at Sanchez, the previous five star clown at DA BISHOP! Has ANYBODY heard from HIM and his UNLV pansies? It's because, at THAT level. EVERY FUCKING BODY RECRUITS! WAKE UP PEOPLE! And before you boys say it, OFF FIELD travails, is why Rush ProPst is not at ALABAMA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Any poll that doesn't have Lowndes in its Top Ten isn't worth considering. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: you have Cardinal Gibbons better than every team in the state of Georgia. The 5A team that gave up 58 in their last game against a top tier team, won only four games two year ago, is somehow better than everyone in the Peach state 🤣🤣? If you say so. I bet in December if the top 7A team is 14-0, you’ll be telling folks other wise. Maybe if GA wants to they can send someone down to broward County and play them Or do you think that everyone has to cater to GA just so you all can game home field advantage so fools like rab can spin losses into a play or 2 from being a win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Any poll that doesn't have Lowndes in its Top Ten isn't worth considering. Rufus>> Maybe if they would actually play a national power outside their state more than 0 times in their entire programs history they could EARN a high national ranking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: BC over Grayson? They are about even. Im just not high on Graysons coaching staff. Ive made that pretty clear. Yeah, Grayson is very talented. Talent isnt going to win every game alone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: They are about even. Im just not high on Graysons coaching staff. Ive made that pretty clear. Yeah, Grayson is very talented. Talent isnt going to win every game alone though. It’ll win that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: you have Cardinal Gibbons better than every team in the state of Georgia. The 5A team that gave up 58 in their last game against a top tier team, won only four games two year ago, is somehow better than everyone in the Peach state 🤣🤣? If you say so. I bet in December if the top 7A team is 14-0, you’ll be telling folks other wise. Their new HC was the reason for their turnaround also. Their 4 wins 2 seasons ago matter less than 0 for that reason. They may have given up 58 (in 3 OTs i think, not regular time), but they scored 57 against that AHP D. And 8 players return from that O. Notice I have them higher than every team in Florida also... Not just the Peach St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Their new HC was the reason for their turnaround also. Their 4 wins 2 seasons ago matter less than 0 for that reason. They may have given up 58 (in 3 OTs i think, not regular time), but they scored 57 against that AHP D. And 8 players return from that O. Notice I have them higher than every team in Florida also... Not just the Peach St. Yup 3OT game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, hardhit1 said: I think Colerain is a bit high in your rankings until they settle their QB play although they bring back a bunch of athletes LaSalle NOT a 100 team teams better IMO in Ohio are Winton Woods, Pick North& Elder Youre probably right about La Salle... Ive never truly been high on them... Any year. I felt like I needed to take a chance on a few teams... Colerain was one of em'. However. That is probably because out of all the teams on this list... Colerain is one I know the least about coming in 2018. Just havent heard much about them, nor have I read much about them. I probably shouldve dropped La Salle for Elder. I really dont know why I have Mentor on the list. I watched the Title game vs Pick. Central again a few days ago to see how many each team brought back... And Mentor brings back like 4 or 5 guys total on both sides... Theyll be a completely new team from the looks of it. But most Ohio guys seem to still like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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