AztecPadre Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Not sure I have seen this posted on here, but sad stuff like this helps nobody. http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/americas/quebec-mosque-shooting-suspect/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 hours ago, AztecPadre said: Not sure I have seen this posted on here, but sad stuff like this helps nobody. http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/americas/quebec-mosque-shooting-suspect/index.html I will never understand how someone can get into that mindset and then takes that leap to action. That is some kind of hate to make someone do that. And for what? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, World Citizen said: I will never understand how someone can get into that mindset and then takes that leap to action. That is some kind of hate to make someone do that. And for what? Go read up on certain churches like WCOC (Now called church of creativity). In about Y2K, I read a book by the founder called Nature's Eternal Religion and I have to tell you... I went outside, started a fire with the yard debris that was piled on the back of the property and tossed the book right in. Only book that I ever read and burned. Anyway, I'm not saying that the Creativity religion is why dude did what he did, but you can get an understanding of where these type of people get their inspiration and how they build up to doing something like this. This is a real and recognized religion in the USA, but we get folks chopping it up about Islam and wanting to ban Muslims... We are a screwed up lot. http://www.publiceye.org/racism/white-supremacy.html 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Go read up on certain churches like WCOC (Now called church of creativity). In about Y2K, I read a book by the founder called Nature's Eternal Religion and I have to tell you... I went outside, started a fire with the yard debris that was piled on the back of the property and tossed the book right in. Only book that I ever read and burned. Anyway, I'm not saying that the Creativity religion is why dude did what he did, but you can get an understanding of where these type of people get their inspiration and how they build up to doing something like this. This is a real and recognized religion in the USA, but we get folks chopping it up about Islam and wanting to ban Muslims... We are a screwed up lot. http://www.publiceye.org/racism/white-supremacy.html I read what that link posted... What the hell man.... Mud races? Peaceful Genocide? What the fuck? How the hell do you nonviolently kill an entire race? These distorted views are sickening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: I read what that link posted... What the hell man.... Mud races? Peaceful Genocide? What the fuck? How the hell do you nonviolently kill an entire race? These distorted views are sickening.... There is a member on this site who declared himself a Adamite and part of that dominate race. That is straight out of their philosophy. Thus is the reason I no longer posted in any political forums. That guy is on the list my grandfather left to F$$K up on sight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, DevilDog said: There is a member on this site who declared himself a Adamite and part of that dominate race. That is straight out of their philosophy. Thus is the reason I no longer posted in any political forums. That guy is on the list my grandfather left to F$$K up on sight. Every Race has their Dumbasses.... You dont have to be a specific color to be stupid... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: I read what that link posted... What the hell man.... Mud races? Peaceful Genocide? What the fuck? How the hell do you nonviolently kill an entire race? These distorted views are sickening.... I know right. These type beliefs are more dangerous to America than radical Islamic terrorists imo. These people are real. They live here among us. Hidden in the fabric of society. I was given the book I burned by another. He didn't outright ask me if I would join or sympathize, he was a neighbor and told me he had something he wanted me to read. When he wanted the book back a couple of months later, I told him I burned it and he just shook his head and walked away. I was so glad when they moved away. Idk what happened to him but I still see his wife(ex?) sometimes. Lucky for me he didn't fully follow the teachings I read in there or he may have killed me over not being of the same belief. I took that as a recruiting ploy, and now I wonder how many are like him. Where did he get the book? Do they have spaghetti dinners or pot luck meetings down the street where they discuss and pass out these books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hawg, I'm guessing these guys are no strangers to FBI scrutiny. As they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said: I know right. These type beliefs are more dangerous to America than radical Islamic terrorists imo. These people are real. They live here among us. Hidden in the fabric of society. I was given the book I burned by another. He didn't outright ask me if I would join or sympathize, he was a neighbor and told me he had something he wanted me to read. When he wanted the book back a couple of months later, I told him I burned it and he just shook his head and walked away. I was so glad when they moved away. Idk what happened to him but I still see his wife(ex?) sometimes. Lucky for me he didn't fully follow the teachings I read in there or he may have killed me over not being of the same belief. I took that as a recruiting ploy, and now I wonder how many are like him. Where did he get the book? Do they have spaghetti dinners or pot luck meetings down the street where they discuss and pass out these books? I'll never understand some peoples views.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Death,Stupidity and Taxes are the only colorblind things in this world.... Death-You gonna die regardless of what color you are... Stupidity- Every color has Stupid people... Taxes- No matter what anyone says The Governement is gonna get theirs they dont care what color or Living Class you are... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 10 hours ago, concha said: Hawg, I'm guessing these guys are no strangers to FBI scrutiny. As they should be. I applaud Hawg for being out front. When I state thus it is minimized. There is an uptick with these types and emboldened like the one on here stated I should be thankful to him that I walk on earth. Help me with this old friend as I bow out. Why should I not be leery of this as an African American and why dismiss them as just a small fringe group. They are, and always have been dangerous. Look real close to some members associated with our new President. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5890c041c46188161c8b4629/amp?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us The leaked classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guidefrom April 2015 states that “domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Go read up on certain churches like WCOC (Now called church of creativity). In about Y2K, I read a book by the founder called Nature's Eternal Religion and I have to tell you... I went outside, started a fire with the yard debris that was piled on the back of the property and tossed the book right in. Only book that I ever read and burned. Anyway, I'm not saying that the Creativity religion is why dude did what he did, but you can get an understanding of where these type of people get their inspiration and how they build up to doing something like this. This is a real and recognized religion in the USA, but we get folks chopping it up about Islam and wanting to ban Muslims... We are a screwed up lot. http://www.publiceye.org/racism/white-supremacy.html Thanks for the link. That is a fascinating website. Those folks are no different than ISIS. Talk about misplaced fear, man we got a lot of work to do. These fools think they have a mandate to do what they want now. I see things getting much worse before they start to balance out. I don't have answers other than to "become the change you seek" and be an example in word and deed and hopefully change will come. Man I feel we as a planet just took 10 steps back. One other point. F#ck religious nuts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Thanks for the link. That is a fascinating website. Those folks are no different than ISIS. Talk about misplaced fear, man we got a lot of work to do. These fools think they have a mandate to do what they want now. I see things getting much worse before they start to balance out. I don't have answers other than to "become the change you seek" and be an example in word and deed and hopefully change will come. Man I feel we as a planet just took 10 steps back. One other point. F#ck religious nuts. It was a Christian that attacked the mosque. Why is there no thread about that? One even lied on here like Faux news did and claimed it was a Muslim From Morocco and Canada insisted they apologize for lying. If there is a terrorist attack here it is always a Brown Muslim Right wing zealot or a White Christian right wing zealot who both claim GOD as their own. Now I will exit and leave this to all those here much more intelligent than Ì. Peace be with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, DevilDog said: I applaud Hawk for being out front. When I state thus it is minimized. There is an uptick with these types and emboldened like the one on here state I should be thankful to him that I walk on earth. Help me with this old friend as I bow out. Why should I not be leery of this as an African American and why dismiss them as just a small fringe group. They are, and always have been dangerous. Look real close to some members associated with our new President. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5890c041c46188161c8b4629/amp?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us The leaked classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guidefrom April 2015 states that “domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers.” Wolves in sheep clothing. Still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 30 minutes ago, DevilDog said: It was a Christian that attacked the mosque. Why is there no thread about that? One even lied on here like Faux news did and claimed it was a Muslim From Morocco and Canada insisted they apologize for lying. If there is a terrorist attack here it is always a Brown Muslim Right wing zealot or a White Christian right wing zealot who both claim GOD as their own. Now I will exit and leave this to all those here much more intelligent than Ì. Peace be with you Peace to you as well DD. I doubt your last sentence is true and your voice is needed and welcomed as speaking truth to bullshit has never been more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 50 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Death,Stupidity and Taxes are the only colorblind things in this world.... Death-You gonna die regardless of what color you are... Stupidity- Every color has Stupid people... Taxes- No matter what anyone says The Governement is gonna get theirs they dont care what color or Living Class you are... I can't excuse the stupid people because not all are stupid, some know exactly what they are doing. And it's not like they have not heard about peace and compassion, it's just that they choose not to follow the teachings of their so called religion. That my friend takes them out of the stupid group and puts them in the bad person group. Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 hours ago, concha said: Hawg, I'm guessing these guys are no strangers to FBI scrutiny. As they should be. Lets hope so my brother Concha. That is one busy agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Lets hope so my brother Concha. That is one busy agency. Life would be better if these assholes followed the advise I gave to LamarFan about playing in traffic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 hours ago, concha said: Hawg, I'm guessing these guys are no strangers to FBI scrutiny. As they should be. Probably. I'd imagine that active members in that church are listed somewhere. What about the ones that aren't active, but do believe the same stuff. That was my reason for bringing this to light. A word or two here and there from "leaders" could light those types up. I sit back on here and read some folks rhetoric and think they are just reading a book or a friend over for dinner away from being pretty radical. It's not just on here but in people that I encounter everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Probably. I'd imagine that active members in that church are listed somewhere. What about the ones that aren't active, but do believe the same stuff. That was my reason for bringing this to light. A word or two here and there from "leaders" could light those types up. I sit back on here and read some folks rhetoric and think they are just reading a book or a friend over for dinner away from being pretty radical. It's not just on here but in people that I encounter everywhere. Very scary points you bring up. How are these folks making the leap from just being an ass to being a murderer. These people must have had hopes for tomorrow and had things they wanted to do in life. Why throw it all away because you are pissed off by politics. Religion may play a bigger part than politics but on the front of it politics plays a leading role and is fueling their actions. Maybe it is a distinction without merit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 53 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Very scary points you bring up. How are these folks making the leap from just being an ass to being a murderer. These people must have had hopes for tomorrow and had things they wanted to do in life. Why throw it all away because you are pissed off by politics. Religion may play a bigger part than politics but on the front of it politics plays a leading role and is fueling their actions. Maybe it is a distinction without merit. If we could solve that riddle, we would win ourselves the most real Nobel Peace Prize to ever be given out. I think lately, the line between religion and politics is getting blurry. I see that as a dangerous thing myself, but that's just me. In my personal life, I have studied about as many religions as I can. Even different denominations of religions. Primarily Christianity, because I was raised in it as a baptist, but a Holiness preacher in my immediate family group. I have visited Assembly of God, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist and Holiness churches. I may one day visit with the Mormons and there is a decent size Mennonite population here, just for curiosities sake. I have read quite a few religious books and many different takes on them by different authors. I have even read Buckland's complete book of witchcraft (wiccan). Although I have no formal education on these numerous religions, I have at times a voracious appetite for studying them. I think my favorite is Buddhism. As far as these supremacists, I really think that people in general are naive to an extent and because they personally haven't encountered it, it must not be real. Maybe they think, ahhh well, it's there but not where I live, or whatever other excuses for not believing or not seeing. Also, I am only speaking from one person's perspective, so my sampling is small. Just posting that so folks don't get the wrong idea about my community, as I find that most people are pretty level here. I do live in the deep south and there is obviously some leftovers from the Civil War around. I have been lucky or unlucky enough to find myself in situations where I have run up onto this type stuff first hand in my life. It's not something I'm encountering daily, but I have seen it enough to recognize it pretty quick, even if it's just under the skin waiting to pop out when someone thinks it's all cool or whatever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Terrible situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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