Columbiafan FL top 50 post week 7 edition

[Columbiafan]

1 Miami Carol City 6A  (6-0)  [0]
2 Miami Central 6A    (6-1)   [0]
3 St Thomas Aquinas  7A  (5-1)  [+3]
4 American Heritage Plantation  5A (5-1) [-1]
5 Lakeland 7A     (7-0)  [0]
6 Atlantic Delray 8A (6-0) [+1]
7 Trinity Christian 5A (7-0) [+2]
8 Columbus 8A (6-1) [+3]
9 Columbia 7A  (5-1) [+1]
10 Dwyer 7A   (6-1)     [+2]
11 South Dade 8A (6-0) [+5]
12 Cardinal Gibbons 5A  (4-2)  [+1]
13 Tampa Bay Tech 7A (6-0) [+1]
14 Deerfield Beach 8A  (6-1) [-10]
15 University School 4A (6-0) [0]
16 Vanguard 6A (6-0) [+2]
17 Armwood 6A (5-1) [+2]
18 Wekiva  8A  (6-1) [+10]
19 Raines 4A (5-1) [+2]
20 Jesuit  5A  (6-0) [+31]
21 Venice 7A (6-1) [+15]
22 Chaminade Madonna 3A  (4-2) [0]
23 Plantation 8A (6-0) [0]
24 Godby 5A (6-0) [0]
25 Osceola 8A  (6-1) [-17]
26 Sanford Seminole 8A  (5-1) [0]
27 Plant 7A  (5-1) [0]
28 Rockledge  5A  (5-1)  [+1]
29 Jones  5A  (5-1)  [+22]
30 Vero Beach 8A (7-0) [0]
31 Clearwater Central Catholic 3A (7-0) [0]
32 Robert E. Lee  7A  (5-1) [0]
33 Palm Beach Central 8A (5-1) [0]
34 Flagler Palm Coast 8A (5-1) [0]
35 Apopka 8A   (5-2)  [-18]
36 Miami Southridge 8A (5-2) [-16]
37 Miami Northwestern 6A  (3-3)  [0]
38 Cocoa 4A  (5-2) [0]
39 Edgewater 7A (6-0) [0]
40 Deland 8A (5-1) [0]
41 Miami Booker T Washington 4A (4-3) [0]
42 Winter Park  8A  (6-1) [0]
43 Pahokee 1A (5-2) [0]
44 Mandarin  8A  (3-3)  [+7]
45 Miami Palmetto 8A (6-1) [0]
46 Madison County 1A (6-1) [0]
47 Dillard 6A (5-2) [+1]
48 West Orange 8A (5-2) [-23]
49 Fletcher 7A (6-1)  [+2]
50 Charlotte  6A  (5-1) [0]

  

First 10 out

Escambia 6A  (5-1)
Menendez  5A  (5-1)
American Heritage Delray  3A (5-1)
Oakleaf  7A  (4-2)
Naples 6A (5-1)
Fort Myers 6A (6-1) 
Western 8A (5-1)
Lincoln 7A  (4-2)
Braden River 7A  (5-2)
Pinellas Park 7A  (6-0)

 

 

 

 

                           Tier 1

 

Miami Carol City, Miami Central, St Thomas Aquinas

 

                            Tier 2

American Heritage Plantation, Lakeland, Atlantic Delray, Trinity Christian, Columbus, Columbia, Dwyer, South Dade, Cardinal Gibbons, Tampa Bay Tech, Deerfield Beach

 

                            Tier 3

 

University School, Vanguard, Armwood, Wekiva, Raines, Jesuit, Venice, Chaminade Madonna, Plantation, Godby, Osceola, Sanford Seminole, Plant, Rockledge, Jones, Vero Beach, Clearwater Central Catholic, Robert E. Lee, Palm Beach Central

 

                            Tier 4

Flagler Palm Coast, Apopka, Miami Southridge, Miami Northwestern, Cocoa, Edgewater, Deland, Miami Booker T Washington, Winter Park, Pahokee, Mandarin, Miami Palmetto, Madison County

 

                          . Tier 5

 

Dillard, West Orange, Fletcher, Charlotte, Escambia, Menendez, American Heritage Delray, Oakleaf, Naples, Fort Myers, Western, Lincoln, Braden River, Pinellas Park

 

[954gator]

Didn't Southridge (tier 4) just smoke Rockledge (tier 3) at their place like a couple weeks ago?   Tiers ain't about records.   

[954gator]

I'd love to see Clearwater Central Catholic play MNW, BTW, Southridge, or even Cocoa.    They'd get worked. 

[Columbiafan]

14 minutes ago, 954gator said:

I'd love to see Clearwater Central Catholic play MNW, BTW, Southridge, or even Cocoa.    They'd get worked. 

Teams adjust week to week but using that logic you could say that there are maybe 3 teams north of Palm Beach county worthy of being ranked because the South Florida counties are more talented 

 

Yeah records don't determine how good a team is in every case and even with tiers there could be upsets (West Orange beating Wekiva, First Coast beating Baker County, ect) however not in every case will a team be ranked above another because of head to head,  in fact it would be impossible 

 

Wekiva beat Jones 

West Orange beat wekiva

Jones beat West Orange 

 

All those results conflict with each other and there is no possible way to actually apply head to head results without conflicting the data

 

 

And maybe those teams could beat CCC but I'm not going to ignore someone who is 7-0

 

MNW may be able to defeat Trinity Christian but does that mean a 3 loss MNW should be top 10 in FL? 

[Columbiafan]

24 minutes ago, 954gator said:

Didn't Southridge (tier 4) just smoke Rockledge (tier 3) at their place like a couple weeks ago?   Tiers ain't about records.   

What i do for tiers is i take the final top 60 of my poll then split it,  this is done to maintain consistent movement with all my rankings and to potentially test accuracy 

 

If any of the rankings look off then odds are all of them are

[Columbiafan]

I will level with you @954gator

 

I normally drop teams a bit hard when they are blown out but the further teams get from that blowout the less impact it has

 

In other words if Miami Southridge can pile up a few wins they will eventually climb back close to where they were and that would put them back in tier 2/3

[954gator]

29 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

Teams adjust week to week but using that logic you could say that there are maybe 3 teams north of Palm Beach county worthy of being ranked because the South Florida counties are more talented 

 

Yeah records don't determine how good a team is in every case and even with tiers there could be upsets (West Orange beating Wekiva, First Coast beating Baker County, ect) however not in every case will a team be ranked above another because of head to head,  in fact it would be impossible 

 

Wekiva beat Jones 

West Orange beat wekiva

Jones beat West Orange 

 

All those results conflict with each other and there is no possible way to actually apply head to head results without conflicting the data

 

 

And maybe those teams could beat CCC but I'm not going to ignore someone who is 7-0

 

MNW may be able to defeat Trinity Christian but does that mean a 3 loss MNW should be top 10 in FL? 

I hear you but comparing Jones to Wekiva or West Orange is different than comparing a team like Clearwater Central Catholic to a team like Miami Southridge.  Anyways, I thought you were doing tiers like in the other thread and if that was the case CCC is off, but I get it if it's just the rankings. 

[Columbiafan]

5 minutes ago, 954gator said:

I hear you but comparing Jones to Wekiva or West Orange is different than comparing a team like Clearwater Central Catholic to a team like Miami Southridge.  Anyways, I thought you were doing tiers like in the other thread and if that was the case CCC is off, but I get it if it's just the rankings. 

I'll say it this way

 

If the tiers look off then the rankings are probably off as well because i basically just take top 60 from the rankings then split into tiers 

 

But I'll definitely look to adjust in coming weeks 

[954gator]

11 hours ago, Columbiafan said:

I'll say it this way

 

If the tiers look off then the rankings are probably off as well because i basically just take top 60 from the rankings then split into tiers 

 

But I'll definitely look to adjust in coming weeks 

Yeah but you have to take Ls into account for rankings.   So Southridge obviously is going to be ranked below teams it would probably beat.  It is what it is.