Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Patriots watched Manziel yesterday at A&M’s pro day, and held meetings with him before and after. Hmmm...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 My first response is no, but then again stranger things have happened. I'll root for guys trying to get it turned around and am hopeful that this is the case. So, mixed message, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I would say probably. Seattle needs a backup Qb. Hes a heisman trophy winner that at the end of the day will sell tickets and jerseys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I would say probably. Seattle needs a backup Qb. Hes a heisman trophy winner that at the end of the day will sell tickets and jerseys May certainly be that simple. Does Manziel still have marketing power in that regard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: May certainly be that simple. Does Manziel still have marketing power in that regard? Im sure he does especially in places like Dallas and Houston. I understand he won his heisman years ago but as was stated people love a come back guy Look at the guys who did far worse and came back to the NFL. Ray lewis after the murder...Michael vick after the dog fighting ring. Im sure there are a lot more examples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 The Pats are not looking to sell jerseys. The next QB they develop is going to be the presumptive heir to Brady. Manziel is a very different QB, but at his best is very talented. The Patriots have been very good over the years evaluating QBs. And Belichick is a very adaptable coach. I have my doubts, but their interest makes me go hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Bormio said: The Pats are not looking to sell jerseys. The next QB they develop is going to be the presumptive heir to Brady. Manziel is a very different QB, but at his best is very talented. The Patriots have been very good over the years evaluating QBs. And Belichick is a very adaptable coach. I have my doubts, but their interest makes me go hmmm.... Are you sure about that?? They have developed at least 10 Qbs behind brady that went to a different team and never had winning records. Brady will decide when he leave and who will be there to take over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I do not think Brady is playing much longer - likely 1-2 years. There are multiple Pats QBs who have played throughout the league and have started - not many teams can say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Bormio said: I do not think Brady is playing much longer - likely 1-2 years. There are multiple Pats QBs who have played throughout the league and have started - not many teams can say that. yes started but all have losing records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: yes started but all have losing records To be a starting QB you have to be good. Cassel had a good year at KC. Hoyer took the Texans to the playoffs. Jimmy G is 7-0 as a starter (only 2-0 at NE). Brissett started for the Colts last year. Mallett has had starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: To be a starting QB you have to be good. Cassel had a good year at KC. Hoyer took the Texans to the playoffs. Jimmy G is 7-0 as a starter (only 2-0 at NE). Brissett started for the Colts last year. Mallett has had starts. Yes but if you look at the qbs behind brady for their careers they have losing records. http://www.businessinsider.com/where-are-they-now-tom-brady-backup-quarterbacksfff-2017-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: Yes but if you look at the qbs behind brady for their careers they have losing records. http://www.businessinsider.com/where-are-they-now-tom-brady-backup-quarterbacksfff-2017-10 Backup QBs who go elsewhere generally do have losing records - otherwise they don’t get moved. The Pats backups have had more success than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Backup QBs who go elsewhere generally do have losing records - otherwise they don’t get moved. The Pats backups have had more success than most. Ive provided a list of all backups under brady that when they go elsewhere they lose. So is it the NE system that makes QBs look good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Backup QBs that move generally do lose (most never start) - not a stunner. Also the Pats have not been drafting first round QBs. Most NE QBs never played any real time in NE, so we do not know. They have not had Aaron Rodgers stashed as a backup - although Jimmy G may be very, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Ive provided a list of all backups under brady that when they go elsewhere they lose. So is it the NE system that makes QBs look good? Yeah, Brady is a system QB. You are better at politics than football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: Backup QBs that move generally do lose (most never start) - not a stunner. Also the Pats have not been drafting first round QBs. Most NE QBs never played any real time in NE, so we do not know. They have not had Aaron Rodgers stashed as a backup - although Jimmy G may be very, very good. could be or could be a bust well have to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, Bormio said: Yeah, Brady is a system QB. You are better at politics than football. He could be. We have never seen him out of the NE system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: He could be. We have never seen him out of the NE system. And I could be Bridget Bardot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: And I could be Bridget Bardot Your making it sound like being a QB is a system meant for you is a bad thing...Its not. he has been very successful in the scheme that NE has asked him to run. If you look at NE offense it is not overly complicated. And he perfects it. There is absolutely nothing wrong in mastering what is being asked of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 You are saying the NE backups lose when away from NE, so Brady might too. If he was with the typical Jets team and coaches - maybe. But put him on most NFL teams - he would win a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: You are saying the NE backups lose when away from NE, so Brady might too. If he was with the typical Jets team and coaches - maybe. But put him on most NFL teams - he would win a ton. We will never know how would be do on any other team. He will be a patriot til he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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