HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 According to the BBC, in the first 20 seats the average swing from Labour to the Conservatives was over 7%. That is huge by historic terms. Normally election swings are much more modest, as this chart, from the elections analyst David Cowling, illustrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 This is a quite from the labor party. They seem proud of their losing socialist ways Obviously, we need to wait for the full results but it looks like Brexit dominated. It’s unquestionable that Labour’s policies are popular. Every poll shows it and there is absolutely no appetite to go back to the centrist policies of old. But in this election we were squeezed by Brexit and it was the defining issue. Against that storm, we built a huge movement of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people and they won’t stop until we see real change in this country. We will resist Johnson’s attempt to destroy our NHS. We will keep the Labour party socialist. We will build a Britain for the many, not the few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJoesFanboy Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 What's the mood at the BBC? Sky News is upbeat, excited, but no gloating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, StJoesFanboy said: What's the mood at the BBC? Sky News is upbeat, excited, but no gloating Ohhh they are quite pissed lol Liberal are freaking out They just interviewed some first time voters for conservative who always voted labour. They hated Corbyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Conservative +9 seat gain Labour has lost 6 seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 The Tories have gained the Clwyd South seat, which has been held by a Labour MP since its creation in 1997. Susan Elan Jones had a majority of 4,356 at the 2017 election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Another quote from the labour party Sound familiar demcorats?? I think what we’re seeing in the Labour heartlands is that people are very aggrieved at the fact that the party has taken a stance on Brexit in the way they have; 17.4m people voted for Brexit, and basically being ignored is not a good recipe. I think democracy prevails. Ignore democracy, and to be quite honest the consequences will come back and bite you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Labour is up 40-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Corbyn tried to say Labour was neutral on Brexit. That was idiotic. To not take a position on the issue of the day pissed everyone off. People knew he was a Remainers, but his chickenshit stance got no credit from Remainers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Labour is up 40-35 The rural areas are reporting in an hour or so - Tory seats will rise very fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Bormio said: Corbyn tried to say Labour was neutral on Brexit. That was idiotic. To not take a position on the issue of the day pissed everyone off. People knew he was a Remainers, but his chickenshit stance got no credit from Remainers. I've now watched hours of this coverage on the BBC and they are as delusional as the demcorats in this country Both parties have lost and both parties keep stating our policies work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Bormio said: The rural areas are reporting in an hour or so - Tory seats will rise very fast. I really have no idea what I'm watching. Very confusing elections. Also I hate how the English speak. Cant understand shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Conservatives have taken their first lead 41-39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 This guy labour party might lose a 14000 vote majority Things looking rather close in Ed Miliband’s seat of Doncaster North. He is defending a 14,000 majority. Some very big Tory piles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJoesFanboy Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: This is a quite from the labor party. They seem proud of their losing socialist ways Obviously, we need to wait for the full results but it looks like Brexit dominated. It’s unquestionable that Labour’s policies are popular. Every poll shows it and there is absolutely no appetite to go back to the centrist policies of old. But in this election we were squeezed by Brexit and it was the defining issue. Against that storm, we built a huge movement of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people and they won’t stop until we see real change in this country. We will resist Johnson’s attempt to destroy our NHS. We will keep the Labour party socialist. We will build a Britain for the many, not the few. "We will build Britain for the many, not the few." In what sense do they mean that? Many who visit London say that London's shot, that it's not going, it's gone. I was to London a few times in the '90s. The best theater and museums. I loved it. I'm not rushing to bring my kids there now. Working-class people who don't get that much gov't aid aren't as materialistic as parties like Labour think. Working-class people care about non-material things. The parties to which they naturally should belong miss that, it seems, and think that everything comes down to money. As long as they get the workers $, the political party can upend society as we know it. E.g., If terrorists were only to have $ and sex, they wouldn't be so unhappy. Not true in most instances. A very Western-centric way of explaining the world. Terrorists believe in a cause connected to something meaningful in their lives. Economists see the world as explained almost solely by money and self-interest, as do socialists. A shallow and very dangerous understanding of humanity. Very Lockean & Marxist. lol Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas had a much deeper grasp of what makes us tick. Maybe they'll twice about creating Cosmopolitan Man with no roots or history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, StJoesFanboy said: "We will build Britain for the many, not the few." In what sense do they mean that? Many that visit London say that London's shot, that it's not going, it's gone. I was to London a few times in the '90s. The best theater and museums. I'm not rushing to bring my kids there now. Working-class people who don't get that much gov't aid aren't as materialistic as parties like Labour think. Working-class people care about non-material things. The parties to which they naturally should belong miss that, it seems, and think that everything comes down to money. As long as they get the workers $, the political party can upend society as we know it. E.g., If terrorists were only to have $ and sex, they wouldn't be so unhappy. Not true in most instances. A very Western-centric way of explaining the world. Terrorists believe in a cause connected to something meaningful in their lives. Economists see the world as explained almost solely by money and self-interest, as do socialists. A shallow and very dangerous understanding of humanity. Very Lockean & Marxist. lol Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas had a much deeper grasp of what makes us tick. Maybe they'll twice about creating Cosmopolitan Man with no roots or history. They believe they are working for the people and not the 1% so to speak. You can compare their labour party to our democrats. Same horrible message. Both embrace socialism Also they probably mean open borders as they have now were they are being over run by muslims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 50-42 conservatives They are still defending the labour parties policies as they are getting murdered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 57-50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 The Tories have gained Stockton South, Blackpool South and Wolverhampton North East from Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Big news for boris johnson The Democratic Unionist party (DUP) appears on course for electoral humiliation in Northern Ireland and a dramatic loss of influence in Westminster. Early tallies on Friday morning suggested the party would lose two of its 10 MPs, including deputy leader Nigel Dodds, and lack the parliamentary leverage to block or delay Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal. The party also suffered a devastating rebuke in North Down where it had expected to take the seat vacated by Lady Sylvia Hermon but instead lost it by nearly 3,000 votes to Stephen Farry of the centrist Alliance party, which opposes Brexit. If other tallies were confirmed Northern Ireland was on course to elect nine nationalist MPs – seven from Sinn Fein, two from the SDLP – and eight unionist MPs, marking a symbolic tilt in favour of those who favour Irish unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Conservatives have now gained 12 seats Labour has lost 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Can someone tell me about the SNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, HSFBfan said: Can someone tell me about the SNP Favor Scottish independence, essentially Scottish Labour. Tories will lose several seats in Scotland - which voted Remain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Favor Scottish independence, essentially Scottish Labour. Tories will lose several seats in Scotland - which voted Remain. Gotcha. Thanks Bishop Auckland went conservative. First time since 1935 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Are they blaming the Russians yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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