HSFBfan Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Idk if it would work here in America but its interesting https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Idk if it would work here in America but its interesting https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html That these laws are necessary in a Western democracy is sad. Thankfully we don’t actually need laws like this here - America has historically done a great job assimilating immigrants into our way of life. Denmark needing them speaks to their failure to organically assimilate immigrants into the Danish way of life. However, it is very interesting nonetheless; I enjoyed reading it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hardcore Troubador said: That these laws are necessary in a Western democracy is sad. Thankfully we don’t actually need laws like this here - America has historically done a great job assimilating immigrants into our way of life. Denmark needing them speaks to their failure to organically assimilate immigrants into the Danish way of life. However, it is very interesting nonetheless; I enjoyed reading it! America may get to the point were we have to consider these measures. But yes very interesting read. I love how Denmark wants people to keep the Danish way of life and values. Denmark didnt fail. Migrants are not respecting the Danish way of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I have said this before. And I will say again. Take away the demand for the cheap migrant labor, and you won't have this issue. Raise wages and incentivize Americans to take these jobs. You guys want cheap labor and low wages, yet get made when migrants show up in droves. Do the math. Idiots! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Drummer61 said: Neither party will comply...Next, shut the border completely for 20 years, neither will comply....Now, when it gets so bad in years to come, revolt or total capitulation....The blood "State Of Emergency" which was written 2002 mentions this ...Worse now and look at Europe....Moderation , likevappeasement means the Aligator eats your grandkids last and they won't ever know what hit them.. You still haven't addressed the root cause for why people are coming here. Until you do- NOTHING will stop them. It will just be a political talking point. I don't know why you dudes are so against raising wages and getting legal Americans to take these jobs and kill the need for migrant labor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Drummer61 said: I have done more than most...Have written to all the Congressman in Fla and spoken at meetings about ILLEGAL INVADERS...Have voted for anti immigration legislation and those who also oppose......Can't do much more, but my resolve and commitment are resolute.....What about you, oh wait, you may not be concerned.... You haven't stated your plan to address the things I have brought up. You can't just say get rid of all the illegals, seal the borders. etc................ You haven't addressed nor do you have a plan to deal with the DEMAND for their labor. SO what is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Bye Bye now.... So no to higher wages? No to Americans taking these jobs that migrants fill? Just the political "deport everyone and seal the border?" Cmon....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. What is your plan to curb the demand for migrant workers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: What is your plan to curb the demand for migrant workers? We have enough here already to handle the demand.... I would close our borders for decade+, deport all illegals convicted of non violent crimes immediately out of this country who are in prison costing us countless millions a year (illegals make up 32% of our prison population) ..... start the legalization process of illegals that are here with no felonies on their record..... the ones with any felony conviction need to be rounded up and tossed out despite what libby schaff says ..... and any politician or low life from the ACLU who objects can go back with them to their home countries. Lets see how much a terrorist with a Harvard law degree from the aclu likes living in a mud hut..... Further, this country doesn't need anybody coming here from countries low on the united nations human development index (trump should of said it like that) ...instead of saying shit hole countries but its the same premise....... we don't need people here from iran, Somalia, Syria, yemen etc. Obama was flooding this country with single mothers from central America which needs to stop..... I'm sure a genius like you knows why he was doing that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: We have enough here already to handle the demand.... No we don't. That is why the continue to come. We DO have enough Americans to take these jobs, but they won't. What is your solution? You didn't you mention ANY plan for how to fill these jobs that migrants are taking once the borders are closed. Do we raise wages so Americans will fill the void in these jobs? Law of supply and demand- Supply will continue because of the demand. Cut of the demand and supply goes down, making it much easier to keep additional migrants from coming across the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: We have enough here already to handle the demand.... I would close our borders for decade+, deport all illegals convicted of non violent crimes immediately out of this country who are in prison costing us countless millions a year (illegals make up 32% of our prison population) ..... start the legalization process of illegals that are here with no felonies on their record..... the ones with any felony conviction need to be rounded up and tossed out despite what libby schaff says ..... and any politician or low life from the ACLU who objects can go back with them to their home countries. Lets see how much a terrorist with a Harvard law degree from the aclu likes living in a mud hut..... Further, this country doesn't need anybody coming here from countries low on the united nations human development index (trump should of said it like that) ...instead of saying shit hole countries but its the same premise....... we don't need people here from iran, Somalia, Syria, yemen etc. Obama was flooding this country with single mothers from central America which needs to stop..... I'm sure a genius like you knows why he was doing that.... I agree with all points except the legalization of illegals with no criminal histories. They all need to be rounded up and deported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: No we don't. That is why the continue to come. We DO have enough Americans to take these jobs, but they won't. What is your solution? You didn't you mention ANY plan for how to fill these jobs that migrants are taking once the borders are closed. Do we raise wages so Americans will fill the void in these jobs? Law of supply and demand- Supply will continue because of the demand. Cut of the demand and supply goes down, making it much easier to keep additional migrants from coming across the border. We cant just keep flooding this country with illegals because we need cucumbers picked. A free market will solve the problem where supply and demand meets wages at an equilibrium point ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 It's a step in the right direction but there should just be a Muslim ban altogether. That is an extremist ideology and if you practice it fully, you are not able to assimilate. South Korea and Japan said no way Jose. In this case no way Muhammad Akbar Bin Laden. Lol America needs to put a freeze on all immigration until the wall is built and ice has a grip on all these border crossers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: I agree with all points except the legalization of illegals with no criminal histories. They all need to be rounded up and deported That's a monumental task..... and almost impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Mjd33 said: We cant just keep flooding this country with illegals because we need cucumbers picked. A free market will solve the problem where supply and demand meets wages at an equilibrium point ..... So you just think that eliminating thew people that fill these MILLIONS of jobs, will just "correct" it self by a free market? Americans will suddenly want to work in fields for slave wages and no benefits? And companies will do the right thing? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Wow, what a plan. Deport them all! LMFAO! You will be the first to complain when all of your hotel prices skyrocket and the price of food skyrockets. You have no idea. Have you ever studied economics? You are really dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I agree with all points except the legalization of illegals with no criminal histories. They all need to be rounded up and deported So, the 5 million or so jobs that migrants fill? You are going to fill the field jobs? I didn't think so. Clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Denmark also have free universal health care, provided to all citizens. Since you guys like their migrant policies, I would assume you would support this as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: So you just think that eliminating thew people that fill these MILLIONS of jobs, will just "correct" it self by a free market? Americans will suddenly want to work in fields for slave wages and no benefits? And companies will do the right thing? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Wow, what a plan. Deport them all! LMFAO! You will be the first to complain when all of your hotel prices skyrocket and the price of food skyrockets. You have no idea. Have you ever studied economics? You are really dumb. You act like there are MILLIONS of illegals picking vegetables..... there isn't. And there is plenty of illegals here already willing to do it.... in a decade or 2 when they are older and that supply is less there will be even more technological advancements in the farming industry to reduce human capital demand anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Mjd33 said: You act like there are MILLIONS of illegals picking vegetables..... there isn't. And there is plenty of illegals here already willing to do it.... in a decade or 2 when they are older and that supply is less there will be even more technological advancements in the farming industry to reduce human capital demand anyway..... You are wrong. Why would migrants be coming here if there was ZERO DEMAND for their services? Would drugs be crossing the border if there was ZERO DEMAND for them? Don't be an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: You are wrong. Why would migrants be coming here if there was ZERO DEMAND for their services? Would drugs be crossing the border if there was ZERO DEMAND for them? Don't be an idiot. Migrants are coming here because the United States is awesome and not a 3rd world cess pool. of course there is a demand for drugs..... Hollywood needs their fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: That's a monumental task..... and almost impossible. But its gotta be tried. And if that means hiring more ICE than do it. You cannot give citizen to illegals as easy as your talking about. There are people who are trying to come the proper way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Mjd33 said: Migrants are coming here because the United States is awesome and not a 3rd world cess pool. of course there is a demand for drugs..... Hollywood needs their fix. I doubt you have even been to any other countries. They are coming here for work. There is a demand for their labor. Just like their is a demand for drugs. Especially in your state 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I love the Denmark has universal healthcare or socialism works in Sweden arguments...... which both fail to mention so much including population size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: But its gotta be tried. And if that means hiring more ICE than do it. You cannot give citizen to illegals as easy as your talking about. There are people who are trying to come the proper way Are you offering to work in the jobs that these people are now who will be deported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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