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What's funny is that concha pretends that this is *not* an ongoing narrative on this board.

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On 8/3/2018 at 10:40 PM, paladin4ever said:

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On 8/8/2018 at 2:05 PM, Bormio said:

Even the NAACP’s own poll puts Trump’s African-American approval at 21% - a record high for him (was 8% on the day of the election).

 

On 8/8/2018 at 2:14 PM, Bormio said:

If Trump gets 20% of the black vote in 2020, the election will be an epic landslide.

 

On 8/8/2018 at 2:16 PM, Bormio said:

21% = landslide.

 

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8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Actually, your link proves that the 2024 number is based on one single poll.

And the pre-2024 numbers are based on a "mixing and matching" of polls.

 

Andy, I've posting multiple polls about this.

This is where your nitpicking BS comes in.  Google "Biden losing support black hispanic". 

it's not one poll. Far from it.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, concha said:

Andy, I've posting multiple polls about this.

And you probably posted "multiple polls" in 2020 as well.

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On 2/7/2020 at 9:30 AM, concha said:

Why do you think the Democrats are so off-the-scales butthurt about minorities succeeding under Trump?

Not only do they they suffer from a visceral hatred of the man to begin with, but now he's going right the fuck ahead and stealing their dependable voter bases!

A Republican president can typically count on voter support from the black community in the single digits. What happens to the Dems (who can't win without strong support from blacks) when presidential approval ratings amongst African-Americans hit 30%+?

The new Emerson poll puts Trump at 35 percent with black voters and 38 percent with Hispanics. “If you add in Asian voters at 28 percent approval,” notes Emerson’s director of polling Spencer Kimball, “our number is very close to the new Marist poll,” which finds Trump’s approval at 33 percent among non-white voters.  A recent RasmussenReports poll has Trump support among black voters at 34 percent, and even the new CNN poll has Trump’s approval among non-white voters at 26 percent.

Why is losing black voters by a two-to-one margin something to shout about? Because if Donald Trump came anywhere close to those numbers on Election Day, he’d likely win a 50-state sweep. Minority voters — and black voters in particular — are an absolutely vital part of the Democratic base. And they don’t vote for Republicans, particularly for president.

 

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Honestly, you are such a goofball.

I mean who can read this shit and not immediately dismiss it out of hand? It's so stupid that concha immediately rushes to post it.

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On 2/7/2020 at 9:30 AM, concha said:

The new Emerson poll puts Trump at 35 percent with black voters and 38 percent with Hispanics. “If you add in Asian voters at 28 percent approval,” notes Emerson’s director of polling Spencer Kimball, “our number is very close to the new Marist poll,” which finds Trump’s approval at 33 percent among non-white voters.  A recent Rasmussen Reports poll has Trump support among black voters at 34 percent, and even the new CNN poll has Trump’s approval among non-white voters at 26 percent.

 

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Just now, concha said:

Nothing at all for Dem pols and pundits and journalists to worry about, apparently.

It's their job to take this stuff seriously.

There's just no reason for anybody else to.

You've been pushing this laughable shit for years.

And you never learn anything.

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Just now, Atticus Finch said:

Instead, I just searched this forum and found you saying the same dumb shit in 2020.

 

Your problem isn't with me, Andy.

Apparently, just about everyone is saying these things. Including folks and orgs on your side of the aisle.

Get them on a call and calm them down, Andy.

 

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3 minutes ago, concha said:

Apparently, just about everyone is saying these things. Including folks and orgs on your side of the aisle.

This is the chef's kiss of concha toadyism.

He does this same routine every 4 years.

He's proven wrong.

But his takeaway is that other people are wrong with him so there must be something there.

Instead of just, you know, comparing the actual voting record to the polling and admitting that they're always laughably wrong.

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This is from Dem organization Catalist...

Their election analysis seems to show there are shifts. And the polling might simply indicate that it could be accelerating.

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LATINO VOTERS CONTINUED TO FAVOR DEMOCRATS, BUT REPUBLICANS MADE INROADS WITH LATINO VOTERS, TOO.

Along with massive increases in turnout, Latino vote share as a whole swung towards Trump by 8 points in two-way vote share compared to 2016, though Biden-Harris still enjoyed solid majority (61%) support among this group. Some of the shift from 2016 appears to be a result of changing voting preferences among people who voted in both elections, and some may come from new voters who were more evenly split in their vote choice than previous Latino voters. This question presents particularly challenging data analysis problems, which we discuss more in a dedicated section below.

 

BLACK VOTER TURNOUT INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY, RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT GAINS FOR DEMOCRATS, DESPITE A MODEST OVERALL DROP IN DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT LEVELS.

Black voter turnout increased substantially, while overall Black vote share swung towards Trump by 3 percentage points compared to 2016. This dynamic – many more voters turning out but at a slightly lower Democratic margin – resulted in more net Democratic votes from Black voters in 2020 than in 2016, particularly in several key battleground states. For both Black and Latino voters, we discuss how an expanding electorate might bring marginal voters into the electorate at slightly lower support levels.

 

 

 

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