HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hardcore Troubador said: This last paragraph is horrifying. Last paragraph is amazing. Nothing horrifying about it. Keep shutting it down. Everytime the dems come to the table fighting for illegals shut it down. Eventually the american people will get so sick of politicians fighting for illegals you will see a big change in government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: So I ask again. What are you willing to compromise on to get some of what you want? Deport them all. Then they can get on the list for merit based immigration. If the US sees that they are an asset for this country they can legally come back. But for now they all need to be deported. I would also argue to end all visas and than end government programs such as welfare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: Last paragraph is amazing. Nothing horrifying about it. Keep shutting it down. Everytime the dems come to the table fighting for illegals shut it down. Eventually the american people will get so sick of politicians fighting for illegals you will see a big change in government And you don’t think that eventually the Dems will leak proposals of a deal most Americans can live with? You think once that’s leaked and Trump shuts down the government for the 500th time the American public won’t turn on him? The GOP has the advantage now. Strike a favorable deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Sportsnut said: Then why a wall? Chain migration is how the rest of your family got here after the first arrivals. Very much not true but keep guessing at what my LEGAL family did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: And you don’t think that eventually the Dems will leak proposals of a deal most Americans can live with? You think once that’s leaked and Trump shuts down the government for the 500th time the American public won’t turn on him? The GOP has the advantage now. Strike a favorable deal. It would have to be a hell of a deal. Until that deal is shown I will give my opinion on it. Not gonna speculate as to what a deal will look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Deport them all. Then they can get on the list for merit based immigration. If the US sees that they are an asset for this country they can legally come back. But for now they all need to be deported. I would also argue to end all visas and than end government programs such as welfare. What candidates do you support for office? I am curious who you like these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Deport them all. Then they can get on the list for merit based immigration. If the US sees that they are an asset for this country they can legally come back. But for now they all need to be deported. I would also argue to end all visas and than end government programs such as welfare. Jesus. My 10 month old baby is more reasonable than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: What candidates do you support for office? I am curious who you like these days. I love Trump. But if he does a bad deal on DACA or gives them legal status that will be a huge blow for me. It would be very hard to stay on the trump train knowing he campaigned with NO DACA NO AMNESTY. I am a republican. I vote republican 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: Jesus. My 10 month old baby is more reasonable than this. have to take a hard line in the sand. At what point do we stop selling out this country to illegals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: I love Trump. But if he does a bad deal on DACA or gives them legal status that will be a huge blow for me. It would be very hard to stay on the trump train knowing he campaigned with NO DACA NO AMNESTY. I am a republican. I vote republican You do understand Trump himself has talked about a deal on DACA? You do understand that a deal on DACA involves continuing protections for these DACA recipients? How are you squaring this with your statements that you “love” Trump? Do you understand the cognitive dissonance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Trumps stance on wall http://www.oann.com/president-trump-hits-schumer-over-wall-threat/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hardcore Troubador said: You do understand Trump himself has talked about a deal on DACA? You do understand that a deal on DACA involves continuing protections for these DACA recipients? How are you squaring this with your statements that you “love” Trump? Do you understand the cognitive dissonance? Thats why im saying if he makes this deal my love for Trump will take a huge hit. He will be seen as another leader who has sold our country out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Trumps stance on wall http://www.oann.com/president-trump-hits-schumer-over-wall-threat/ The wall is only PART of any deal! The deal will involve DACA for any border security measures to have any chance ! What are you not getting?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Sportsnut said: Since you can't prove your legality, should you not be subject to the same? Do you know who came after the first, because the first was here? In other words, If your g-g-g grand dad came first and made a place for others to follow they were chain migrating behind him. Could this not be the case> And if so, should those that came following your g-g-g grand dad not be subject to the same treatment? Nobody came behind him. He came here and established a life here. He didnt bring a whole family here. Trust me I did the research. I know exactly where he came from. What port he left from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: The wall is only PART of any deal! The deal will involve DACA for any border security measures to have any chance ! What are you not getting?!?! I get it. But then for now hire more border agents and more ICE agents. Thousands of people a day should be rounded up. Everyday on the news we should be hearing another 1000 people locked up and getting ready for deportation. Thats why i think this will be drawn out into November until after the midterms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 46 rounded up in the Buffalo area of NY....https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-46-western-new-york-operation-targeting-criminal-aliens-illegal-re But only 46 thats nothing. Those #s should be a lot higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 We have Dems fighting for illegals holding up the government and they are seeing it in the polls that people are tired of it and the votes are slipping away from the Dems. But whose fighting for the homeless vets( President Trump) Whose fighting for better wages in America(President Trump) Whose fighting for lower taxes(President Trump). The Dems could really jump on board this rise of American Patriotism but yet they wanna ride the curtails of ILLEGALS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: We have Dems fighting for illegals holding up the government and they are seeing it in the polls that people are tired of it and the votes are slipping away from the Dems. But whose fighting for the homeless vets( President Trump) Whose fighting for better wages in America(President Trump) Whose fighting for lower taxes(President Trump). The Dems could really jump on board this rise of American Patriotism but yet they wanna ride the curtails of ILLEGALS I hear he even turns water into wine at Mar-a-Lago when supplies run low... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hardcore Troubador said: I hear he even turns water into wine at Mar-a-Lago when supplies run low... Yawn.....no legit argument to my statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Yawn.....no legit argument to my statement Yawn. You didn’t post anything worth arguing about. You made a series of declarative statements on what the Master Negotiator ®️™️©️ is “fighting“ for. To the extent that every president “fights” for these things I agree with your declarative statements that the Master Negotiator®️©️™️ is “fighting” for them as well. I was simply commenting on your seemingly unconditional adulation for the man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: Yawn. You didn’t post an argument. You made a series of declarative statements on what the Master Negotiator ®️™️©️ is “fighting“ for. To the extent that every president “fights” for these things I agree with your declarative statements that the Master Negotiator®️©️™️ is “fighting” for them as well. I was simply commenting on your seemingly unconditional adulation for he man. There is no reason as of this moment to have anything against him. I love everything that he is doing. Could he be even more extreme of his visions sure he could be but doesnt seem like he is headed down that path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, aZjimbo said: No your posts simply prove your disdain for America. to an emotional unseasoned zealot, you may be right to any objective human, right or left leaning, they would think you had a hole in your head to suggest such a thing frankly, i am sure more than just objective folks think you have a hole in your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, NorCalRuss said: I’ll play your role. Youre better than that, I never said that. Don’t be like ..... Russ it was a question. I made it clear it was a question. I need clarification on your position. from that post you seemed extreme and I was surprised so I asked to be clear so i did not have a false impression of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Not hateful or fearful.....Abide by the law. DEPORT THEM ALL Here is why you are labeled as you are I believe as you, abide by the law. (is the debate not about changing a law?) But try to find a post where I sound angry or vindictive about it, like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, noonereal said: Russ it was a question. I made it clear it was a question. I need clarification on your position. from that post you seemed extreme and I was surprised so I asked to be clear so i did not have a false impression of you How many clarifications do you need in a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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