Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: This is actually the easiest debate I've ever taken from you..... Because you don't know anything about winning debates. You vomit all over the screen and then claim you won. Every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Which isn't good Cocoa, FL was #646 in 2019 St James, La was #554 in 2019 Cocoa (FL) team preview trend Florida 4A Region 2 4A 8-4 0-0 3-1 39.4 29.6 81-52 WINS: #916 Viera (FL) (27-10), #965 Mainland (Daytona Beach, FL) (36-22), #1463 South Sumter (Bushnell, FL) (31-23), #2678 Heritage (Palm Bay, FL) (30-9), #3099 Glades Central (Belle Glade, FL) (27-20), #3238 Sebastian River (Sebastian, FL) (40-0), #3923 Astronaut (Titusville, FL) (48-6), #6445 Holy Trinity Episcopal (Melbourne, FL) (58-0), LOSSES: #97 Hoover (AL) (37-23), #231 Venice (FL) (48-31), #364 Rockledge (FL) (24-17), #474 Bolles (Jacksonville, FL) (20-14) St James reminds me of Cocoa most years...they both get after it win or lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Cocoa, FL was #646 in 2019 St James, La was #554 in 2019 Cocoa (FL) team preview trend Florida 4A Region 2 4A 8-4 0-0 3-1 39.4 29.6 81-52 WINS: #916 Viera (FL) (27-10), #965 Mainland (Daytona Beach, FL) (36-22), #1463 South Sumter (Bushnell, FL) (31-23), #2678 Heritage (Palm Bay, FL) (30-9), #3099 Glades Central (Belle Glade, FL) (27-20), #3238 Sebastian River (Sebastian, FL) (40-0), #3923 Astronaut (Titusville, FL) (48-6), #6445 Holy Trinity Episcopal (Melbourne, FL) (58-0), LOSSES: #97 Hoover (AL) (37-23), #231 Venice (FL) (48-31), #364 Rockledge (FL) (24-17), #474 Bolles (Jacksonville, FL) (20-14) St James reminds me of Cocoa most years...they both get after it win or lose. So a 15-0 St. James team is about "as good" as an 8-4 Cocoa team. OK. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Also... Record vs. top 1000 (since 2016) Cocoa: 21-12 St. James: 1-3 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: So a 15-0 St. James team is about "as good" as an 8-4 Cocoa team. Probably. St James didn't play Hoover and some of those other teams, finch St James played what was scheduled....they are obviously taking the next step up this year playing in Atlanta, Edna Karr and etc......I hear they have another nice game lined up possibly. Is what it is....relax, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, RedZone said: Probably. St James didn't play Hoover and some of those other teams, finch Right. Because they play shitty opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, RedZone said: St James played what was scheduled.... Which sucks. So them beating that schedule is meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Is what it is....relax, man. And what it is isn't good. Why do you insist on lying to everybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Also... Record vs. top 1000 (since 2016) Cocoa: 21-12 St. James: 1-3 🤡 Means nothing.. St James has a win over John Curtis on their resume and a couple other nice wins vs larger schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Anyways, getting bored with it. Wonder who St James gets in Atlanta? That has to be a thrill for the sugarcane boys regardless of who it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Means nothing.. It means that St. James isn't close to Cocoa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: St James has a win over John Curtis on their resume and a couple other nice wins vs larger schools. They beat overrated John Curtis 13 years ago. Your obsession with thinking that John Curtis is some kind of behemoth is bordering on derangement. They have one win over a top 1000 team in the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Anyways, getting bored with it. You're getting bored with having facts thrown at you and having no coherent response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, RedZone said: Cocoa, FL was #646 in 2019 St James, La was #554 in 2019 Cocoa (FL) team preview trend Florida 4A Region 2 4A 8-4 0-0 3-1 39.4 29.6 81-52 WINS: #916 Viera (FL) (27-10), #965 Mainland (Daytona Beach, FL) (36-22), #1463 South Sumter (Bushnell, FL) (31-23), #2678 Heritage (Palm Bay, FL) (30-9), #3099 Glades Central (Belle Glade, FL) (27-20), #3238 Sebastian River (Sebastian, FL) (40-0), #3923 Astronaut (Titusville, FL) (48-6), #6445 Holy Trinity Episcopal (Melbourne, FL) (58-0), LOSSES: #97 Hoover (AL) (37-23), #231 Venice (FL) (48-31), #364 Rockledge (FL) (24-17), #474 Bolles (Jacksonville, FL) (20-14) St James reminds me of Cocoa most years...they both get after it win or lose. In 2019: St James was 1-0 vs the Top 1000 Beat #615 5A Destrehan (5A runner-up) 31-24 (7 point win) In 2019: Cocoa had 2 wins vs the Top 1000 2 teams that barely made the cut.... #916 by 17 #965 by 14 Doing the calpreps math. I think Cocoa and St James would be a good game most years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: They beat overrated John Curtis 13 years ago Like STA did 7 or 8 years ago. STA 27 (11-2) John Curtis 14 St James 16 (12-2) John Curtis 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, RedZone said: Doing the calpreps math. I think Cocoa and St James would be a good game most years. It wouldn't. Maybe in 2019 but not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, RedZone said: Like STA did 7 or 8 years ago. STA 27 (11-2) John Curtis 14 St James 16 (12-2) John Curtis 14 Yep. And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: STA 27 (11-2) John Curtis 14 You got both the score and STA's record wrong. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Yep. And? STA looks like 3 letters.... "womp womp" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: You got both the score and STA's record wrong. 🤡 That is the John Curtis record. Confused? Oh, 27-13.....oooops. My memory is still sharp as a tack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: That is the John Curtis record. They were 10-2. And normal people put the record next to the team's name. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 46 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: It wouldn't. Maybe in 2019 but not much else. I don't know. St James gave Glory Years Evangel all they wanted in the 1996 3A State Champ game in the Dome......St James has been around. Things are a little different there now with new coaches and new system, but the freaks remain. St James had some big and fast kids in 1996.....that part hasn't changed much. They may have been coached better back in the day when they ran the T. About 4 minutes in for the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: And normal people put the record next to the team's name. I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, RedZone said: I don't know. St James gave Glory Years Evangel all they wanted in the 1996 3A State Champ game in the Dome......St James has been around. Things are a little different there now with new coaches and new system, but the freaks remain. So they lost to Evangel in 1996 and beat John Curtis barely in 2007. Somehow that means that they could play even with Cocoa? OK. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: So they lost to Evangel in 1996 and beat John Curtis barely in 2007. Somehow that means that they could play even with Cocoa? OK. Cool. Pretty much. Cocoa is not Mater Dei.. St James most years has a larger roster than Cocoa to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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