thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Horsefly said: So what he said it, he was proven wrong. That has nothing to do with him stabilizing our economy from a Bush. Who said he didnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Horsefly said: You invest, you’ve mentioned it. How well you do under Obama you make or lose money? I did fine... better now, but again where did I mock Obama or say he wasn’t responsible for recovery? News flash I didn’t. You just went off on a fucking tangent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Who said he didnt? 👇. This is the type of exaggerated BS I respond to, Bormio is the OP and this was posted as a discredit to what he did economically. 13 hours ago, Bormio said: America was a bad, bad place. We deserved it/s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, thc6795 said: I did fine... better now, but again where did I mock Obama or say he wasn’t responsible for recovery? News flash I didn’t. You just went off on a fucking tangent I was responding to concha. If you don’t have an issue with Obama and his recovery or our market growth under him, then why did you jump into the convo as an antagonist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: 👇. This is the type of exaggerated BS I respond to, Bormio is the OP and this was posted as a discredit to what he did economically. That comment about America being bad was not in reference to the economy - it referred to Obama’s view of American history as evidenced by his worldwide apology tour. My comment was in response to one about Obama kowtowing overseas 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: 👇. This is the type of exaggerated BS I respond to, Bormio is the OP and this was posted as a discredit to what he did economically. What did he say that was wrong? Is Obama trying to take credit for todays economy? Yes he is. Total bullshit he deserves NONE. Was America in a bad place back then? Yes it was. Did Obama get us going back in the right direction? yes he did all credit to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Horsefly said: hey @concha when are we going so see charts and graphs over the Bush economy? I mean if we’re going to have negative words for the man that helped usher us into a recovery we would reserve some wrath and anger towards the man that helped cause the need to recover. Just sayin George W. Bush's initiatives at home and abroad had significant financial consequences. Both tax cuts added an estimated $1.5 trillion to the debt from 2002 to 2011.25 They only increased growth enough to make up 10% of their long-run cost.26 In addition, they disproportionately benefited high-income households. The top 1% of households gained an after-tax income increase of 6.7%, while those in the lowest fifth made gains of just 1%.4 Maintaining the cuts has been estimated to cost $4.6 trillion from 2012 to 2021.24 The Medicare prescription drug bill added an estimated $550 billion to the debt between 2006 and 2015.27 Employers and healthcare providers received over $125 billion in short-term subsidies as a result of Bush's prescription drug program.10 Spending on the two wars was estimated at $604 billion from September 2001 to the end of fiscal year 2007. Through 2017, the cost plus interest topped $2 trillion.28 The wars also cost over 6,800 lives, counting military personnel and Department of Defense civilians.29 TARP was viewed as successful in stabilizing the market, and at lower costs than expected.30 But it would be a tough recovery, as the 2008 financial crisis had resulted in steep economic losses. Housing prices fell 33% during the recession—more than during the Great Depression.31 Unemployment also remained high, reaching 7.3% by the end of 2008 and peaking at 10% in October 2009.32 I understand your need to deflect from the thread topic. Go to your safe space for a bit. It'll be OK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: I was responding to concha. If you don’t have an issue with Obama and his recovery or our market growth under him, then why did you jump into the convo as an antagonist? I was replying to the OP. Obama is trying to take credit for todays economy. I posted what he said back then. Again you went bat shit crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Even DNC ChairDonna Brazile discussed obama’s shitty job growth in Wikileaks https://www.mrctv.org/blog/email-dnc-chair-privately-criticizes-obama-economy-despite-public-praise But tweets public praise lol. She fucking knew. Brazile also said Barry Kardashian was the most arrogant man she ever met. Shame on her for saying such blasphemy about a fellow person of color and that parvenus demagogue! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: I was replying to the OP. Obama is trying to take credit for todays economy. I posted what he said back then. Again you went bat shit crazy. You responded to me and what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: I was replying to the OP. Obama is trying to take credit for todays economy. I posted what he said back then. Again you went bat shit crazy. It's funny. I don't think anyone's claimed that there wasn't a recovery under Obama. Horsefly is simply losing his shit over folks pointing out certain truths about it that he doesn't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You responded to me and what I said. I asked you a simple question. Is the economy better now or not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 But I thought Obama and the rest said the economy would tank if Trump was elected? 🤔 Now Mr. 1.88 GDP growth rate AVG wants credit 3 years later ? Lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, concha said: It's funny. I don't think anyone's claimed that there wasn't a recovery under Obama. Horsefly is simply losing his shit over folks pointing out certain truths about it that he doesn't like. You're just not allowed to say anything negative about Saint Obama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: I understand your need to deflect from the thread topic. Go to your safe space for a bit. It'll be OK. I’m here in your space, all up in it! By now you should know I come and go whenever I desire, every space is mine! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: I’m here in your space, all up in it! By now you should know I come and go whenever I desire, every space is mine! 😉 You're in this thread and showing poorly. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, concha said: It's funny. I don't think anyone's claimed that there wasn't a recovery under Obama. Horsefly is simply losing his shit over folks pointing out certain truths about it that he doesn't like. You like to bash Obama and his accomplishments, that’s all this OT side does, but turn a blind eye to the one that caused the economic downfall...Bush You want to appear as if you’re a truth teller but your fat mouth is silent on that. Why? You don’t bash repubs. Just calling it as I see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: You're in this thread and showing poorly. Hope this helps. I don’t care what you think, if I did I’d agree with your BS and pat you on the head for all your “funny” memes and posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You like to bash Obama and his accomplishments, that’s all this OT side does, but turn a blind eye to the one that caused the economic downfall...Bush You want to appear as if you’re a truth teller but your fat mouth is silent on that. Why? You don’t bash repubs. Just calling it as I see it. come on bell. Are you really calling someone out for not calling out the opposing party? You? BTW this time I am intejecting myself into your conversation. See the differance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You like to bash Obama and his accomplishments, that’s all this OT side does, but turn a blind eye to the one that caused the economic downfall...Bush You want to appear as if you’re a truth teller but your fat mouth is silent on that. Why? You don’t bash repubs. Just calling it as I see it. I have stated facts relevant to the thread topic. That has clearly caused you to lose your shit. Feel free to start a thread about how Bush was responsible for the housing crisis and subsequent recession. Maybe I'll stop by. The irony of you calling me out for partisanship is hilarious, btw. The Obama recovery was weak and the economy has improved from what Obama handed over. Truth. You pissing and moaning about people pointing it out doesn't change that reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: come on bell. Are you really calling someone out for not calling out the opposing party? You? BTW this time I am intejecting myself into your conversation. See the differance? Come on, it’s one thing to support ones party concha comes across as if he’s report the real and whole truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: but turn a blind eye to the one that caused the economic downfall...Bush Bush huh? Nothing to do with Bill Clinton repealing Glass Steagall & signing the commodity futures modernization act WHICH EXEMPTED CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS FROM REGULATION! Hello? Anyone home? Ever hear of the Community Reinvestment Act? Bill put gun to the heads of banks and Freddie and Fanny to give homes to people who couldn’t afford them? That was a great idea. Further, Nothing to do with Fed chairman schmuck Alan Greenspan who was asleep at the while keeping interest rates too low for too long? I don’t think you read enough about what caused the subprime crisis my friend. I do if you want more schooling.... I know a lot on the topic. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, concha said: The Bush economy was terrible and the economy improved from what Obama was handed. Truth. You never say this part, but I’m here to remind and stress to the class of this reality as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Come on, it’s one thing to support ones party concha comes across as if he’s report the real and whole truth. Most folks on this board clearly post one way or the other. Why am I the one to be called out by you (another partisan)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mjd33 said: Bush huh? Nothing to do with Bill Clinton repealing Glass Steagall & signing the commodity futures modernization act WHICH EXEMPTED CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS FROM REGULATION! Hello? Anyone home? Ever hear of the Community Reinvestment Act? Bill put gun to the heads of banks and Freddie and Fanny to give homes to people who couldn’t afford them? That was a great idea. Further, Nothing to do with Fed chairman schmuck Alan Greenspan who was asleep at the while keeping interest rates too low for too long? I don’t think you read enough about what caused the subprime crisis my friend. I do if you want more schooling.... I know a lot on the topic. Pointing out the Dem foundations of the housing crisis will make Horsefly flip the fuck out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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