Whiteshoes Top 100 - December 5, 2016

[whiteshoes]

Here we go gang, tear into it.  

1. Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (15-0)

2. Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (11-0)

3. DeSoto (TX) (14-0)

4. Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (12-0)

5. Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (12-2)

6. Logansville (GA) Grayson (13-1)

7. Allen (TX) (13-0)

8. Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (11-2)

9. Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (13-1)

10. Roswell (14-0)

11. Corona Centennial (11-2)

12. Louisville (KY) Trinity (15-0)

13. Plantation (FL) American Heritage (13-0)

14. Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (13-0)

15. South Jordan (UT) Bingham (14-0)

16. Austin (TX) Lake Travis (13-1)

17. Detroit (MI) Cass Tech (14-0)

18. Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro (13-0)

19. Cibolo (TX) Steele (13-1)

20. Pittsburg (PA) Central Catholic (14-1)

21. Miami (FL) Carol City (10-3)

22. Denton (TX) Ryan (14-0)

23. Salt Lake City (UT) East (14-0)

24. Cincinnati (OH) Colerain (11-1)

25. Harbor City (CA) Narbonne (13-0)

26. Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (12-1)

27. Concord (CA) De LaSalle (11-1)

28. Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (13-0)

29. Montvale INJ) St. Joseph Regional (9-2)

30. Hoover (AL) (12-2)

31. The Woodlands (TX) (14-0)

32. Chandler (AZ) (12-2)

33. East St. Louis (14-0)

34. Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (13-0)

35. Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (14-1)

36. Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (13-1)

37. Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central (10-2)

38. North Charleston (SC) Fort Dorchester (12-1)

39. Stockton (CA) St. Mary’s (13-1)

40. Phoenix (AZ) Mountain Pointe (13-1)

41. Mobile (AL) McGill-Toolen (13-1)

42. Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (13-1)

43. Cedar Hill (TX) (11-3)

44. Huber Heights (OH) Wayne (11-1)

45. Paramus (NJ) Catholic (10-2)

46. New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr (14-0)

47. Tulsa (OK) Union (10-2)

48. Manvel (TX) (13-1)

49. Laurinburg (NC) Scotland (14-0)

50. Cocoa (FL) (10-1)

51. Powder Springs (GA) McEachern (10-2)

52. Novi (MI) Central Catholic (12-1)

53. Washington (DC) St. Johns (8-4)

54. Kimberly (WI) (14-0)

55. Rancho Cucamonga (12-1)

56. Cleveland (OH) St. Ignatius (13-2)

57. Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (12-2)

58. Southlake (TX) Carroll (10-2)

59. Highland (UT) Lone Peak (12-2)

60. Mission Viejo (CA) (11-1)

61. Monroe (LA) Neville (13-0)

62. Tampa (FL) Plant (13-0)

63. Cartersville (GA) (14-0)

64. West Linn (OR) (14-0)

65. Greensboro (NC) Page (13-1)

66. Spartanburg (SC) Boiling Springs (12-1)

67. Clinton(MS) (14-1)

68. Memphis (TN) Whitehaven (15-0)

69. Miami (FL) Northwestern (11-2)

70. Valdosta (GA) (12-1)

71. Greensboro (NC) Dudley (13-1)

72. Miami (FL) Central (6-2)

73. Fayetteville (AR) (12-1)

74. Norman (OK) North (11-1)

75. West Monroe (LA) (11-1-1)

76. Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (14-1)

77. Miami (TN) Booker T. Washington (9-4)

78. Bowling Green (KY) (15-0)

79. Cincinnati (OH) St. Xavier (10-5)

80. Maryville (TN) (13-1)

81. Gilbert (AZ) Williams Field (14-0)

82. Aledo (TX) (14-0)

83. Henderson (NV) Liberty (12-2)

84. Tucker (GA) (12-1)

85. Shreveport Evangel Christian (12-2)

86. Baltimore (MD) St. Frances Academy (10-2)

87. Dayton Beach (FL) Mainland (11-1)

88. College Station (TX) (14-0)

89. Brentwood (TN) Academy (10-2)

90. Huntington Beach (CA) Edison (13-1)

91. Savannah (GA) Benedictine (14-0)

92. Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern (9-2)

93. Cincinnati (OH) LaSalle (13-2)

94. Erie (PA) Cathedral Prep (14-0)

95. River Ridge (LA) John Curtis (10-1)

96. Camas (WA) (13-0)

97. Crystal Lake (IL) Pine Ridge (14-0)

98. Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (9-3)

99. Charlotte (NC) Vance (13-1)

100. Martinsburg (WV) (14-0)

[Pops]

Just curious

When was the last time a top 10 in any poll had this profile:

• 2 losses, including to team outside top 200
• 0 top 100 wins
• 2 top 500 wins
• 5 top 1,000 wins

 

[The Stache]

32 minutes ago, Pops said:

Just curious

When was the last time a top 10 in any poll had this profile:

• 2 losses, including to team outside top 200
• 0 top 100 wins
• 2 top 500 wins
• 5 top 1,000 wins

 

I think White shoes was just pulling out chain.  No way would he drop us to #9 considering we have one top 5 loss and we beat his #3 team

 

 

[Connman]

White shoes I always appreciate your effort of putting together a top 100. It is a time consuming thankless task. I can only comment on your Texas rankings as I don't follow enough nationally. I see you hold Desoto in high esteem which would explain you having CHill and SLC so high. If you adjust your state rankings each week how far did you drop Manvel? Having them at #8 seems a little high. I don't remember where you had them last week before their loss.

Where is Klein Collins on your radar? They are the major omission that I can see on your poll. Most people would have them over some of your higher rated Tx teams, but you're not them and can do what you want! Good job !

[ECHS05]

1 hour ago, Pops said:

Just curious

When was the last time a top 10 in any poll had this profile:

• 2 losses, including to team outside top 200
• 0 top 100 wins
• 2 top 500 wins
• 5 top 1,000 wins

 

A ranking earned by the name on their jersey. Youd think that name wouldve lost a little luster being a .250% team OOS the last 5 years.

 

[Pops]

16 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

A ranking earned by the name on their jersey. Youd think that name wouldve lost a little luster being a .250% team OOS the last 5 years.

 

Ranking by D1 count vs performance

 

btw, whiteshoes, great job on poll, my little snit aside

[whiteshoes]

1 hour ago, Connman said:

White shoes I always appreciate your effort of putting together a top 100. It is a time consuming thankless task. I can only comment on your Texas rankings as I don't follow enough nationally. I see you hold Desoto in high esteem which would explain you having CHill and SLC so high. If you adjust your state rankings each week how far did you drop Manvel? Having them at #8 seems a little high. I don't remember where you had them last week before their loss.

Where is Klein Collins on your radar? They are the major omission that I can see on your poll. Most people would have them over some of your higher rated Tx teams, but you're not them and can do what you want! Good job !

Spring Klein Collins is the next Texas team up and was amongst the final cuts.    The tough part for them is that they have DeSoto this weekend.   However, a competitive game should be enought to get them in, a blowout will not. 

[whiteshoes]

10 hours ago, Pops said:

Just curious

When was the last time a top 10 in any poll had this profile:

• 2 losses, including to team outside top 200
• 0 top 100 wins
• 2 top 500 wins
• 5 top 1,000 wins

 

I assume you are talking about Aquinas.   My feeling with them is they came as close as anyone to beating Gorman.   They really should have beat Gorman, who were down to their last play in the game. And Gorman is the best team in the country. No doubt, the Miami Booker T. Washington loss is not good but understand there was some questionable officiating in the game and it was the first game of the season.  To be honest, I was prepared to move Mater Dei over IMG had they defeated Bosco.   The two things about that game, it is as good as I have ever seen Bosco play and I thought that the quarterback from Mater Dei got rattled in the game.

[Mjd33]

DLS at 27 is beyond dumb. 

Servite should be at 28 than. 

 

Still no SJC ? 

[Pops]

4 hours ago, Mjd33 said:

DLS at 27 is beyond dumb. 

Servite should be at 28 than. 

 

Still no SJC ? 

Should btw be #4 then?

[NicholasMalibu]

St. John's DC should be in the 20-30 range. They hammered #20 Pitt CC and beat #29 SJR by 2 scores. If a team like STA can ride the coattails of an OT loss into the top 10 then SJC's two top 30 wins should place them inside the top 30. 

[NicholasMalibu]

12 hours ago, Pops said:

Just curious

When was the last time a top 10 in any poll had this profile:

• 2 losses, including to team outside top 200
• 0 top 100 wins
• 2 top 500 wins
• 5 top 1,000 wins

 

Nobody will give you a solid answer for this question. I've tried a few times. 

[Guest LOSer]

2 hours ago, NicholasMalibu said:

Nobody will give you a solid answer for this question. I've tried a few times. 

This was posted almost immediately after you asked it in the very same thread.

 

The answer was right there but you insisted on coming into a completely different thread to complain that nobody had an answer.

You were so interested in finding this out that do you know how many times you responded in that thread after my post?

Zero times.

[Sammyswordsman]

11 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

I assume you are talking about Aquinas.   No doubt, the Miami Booker T. Washington loss is not good but understand there was some questionable officiating in the game and it was the first game of the season.  

This is ridiculous.  You are making excuses for STA bad loss and completely throwing it out of consideration 

like it or not STA has TWO (2) LOSSES

 

get them the hell out of the Top 10

[Guest LOSer]

5 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

like it or not STA has TWO (2) LOSSES

It's just so dumb.

The infinite ability of the human mind to reject useful knowledge is breathtaking.

[Pops]

16 minutes ago, LOSer said:

It's just so dumb.

The infinite ability of the human mind to reject useful knowledge is breathtaking.

We agree

zero quality wins; 2 losses, one to a 4-loss team

[Mjd33]

8 hours ago, Pops said:

Should btw be #4 then?

Pops, cmon even if you made a poll DLS wouldnt be at 27. Further, DLS should only be put in the top 100 if they stay within 3 Tds of SJB.... 

You rag  on STA for who they beat but who has dls beat thats a quality opponent? 

In addition, How many teams in the country could take BG to 2 OTs in Vegas? 

Maybe 3-4 tops? IMG, Mater Dei, an improved SJB team from beginning of the year, and STA. That's the list. No one else could. And statistically those teams mentioned probably wouldn't .... But STA did. 

STA is a top 5 team.... Easily top 10 and  could beat anybody regardless of their 2 losses. 

Michigan is the second best team in the country but didn't make the playoff. There's more that meets the eye in both cases. 

[Guest LOSer]

1 hour ago, Pops said:

We agree

zero quality wins; 2 losses, one to a 4-loss team

The worst part here is that Pop will be wrong, again, and he'll just dust himself off and pretend like it never happened. Then he'll be back here next year to do the same thing all over again.

That same thing being get his analysis wrong and generally miss everything that's right in front of his face.

[NicholasMalibu]

2 hours ago, LOSer said:

This was posted almost immediately after you asked it in the very same thread.

 

The answer was right there but you insisted on coming into a completely different thread to complain that nobody had an answer.

You were so interested in finding this out that do you know how many times you responded in that thread after my post?

Zero times.

I said solid answer. You never gave a solid answer. You just posted two teams that ended in the top 10 with 2 losses. There were other parts to the question like having zero top 100 wins. 

You can twist questions however you want, but STA has 2 losses, zero top 100 wins, and is riding the coattails of an OT loss. Embarrassing. 

[Guest LOSer]

7 minutes ago, NicholasMalibu said:

I said solid answer. You never gave a solid answer.

Please.

If that was your response then why didn't you say it in that thread at that very moment?

Because you either didn't bother to read it or you didn't have anything to say.

[Guest LOSer]

8 minutes ago, NicholasMalibu said:

You just posted two teams that ended in the top 10 with 2 losses. There were other parts to the question like having zero top 100 wins. 

West Monroe lost 2 games by 28 and 10 (to a 4-6 team!).

And beat nobody by the way.

Their best wins were probably over The Woodlands and Westlake?

Hard to tell since there were no top 100 polls back then.

You were provided examples and you ignored it. Then you tried to weasel out of it in another thread.

Pathetic.

[NicholasMalibu]

10 minutes ago, LOSer said:

Please.

If that was your response then why didn't you say it in that thread at that very moment?

Because you either didn't bother to read it or you didn't have anything to say.

Option #3...Because it's a waste of my time if you're going to use examples of teams that played in an era without a top 100 ranking. 

[NicholasMalibu]

8 minutes ago, LOSer said:

West Monroe lost 2 games by 28 and 10 (to a 4-6 team!).

And beat nobody by the way.

Their best wins were probably over The Woodlands and Westlake?

Hard to tell since there were no top 100 polls back then.

You were provided examples and you ignored it. Then you tried to weasel out of it in another thread.

Pathetic.

Then let's just meet in the middle and agree that STA has the weakest resume of a top 10 team during the Top 100 era. Congrats, I guess...

[Guest LOSer]

4 minutes ago, NicholasMalibu said:

Option #3...Because it's a waste of my time if you're going to use examples of teams that played in an era without a top 100 ranking. 

It was such a waste of your time that you went into a completely different thread to lie about not being provided an answer?

Please.

You look foolish as hell trying to shine up that turd.

[Guest LOSer]

1 minute ago, NicholasMalibu said:

Then let's just meet in the middle and agree that STA has the weakest resume of a top 10 team during the Top 100 era. Congrats, I guess...

You must have ignored my second example of 2009 Camden County.

But I know you want to escape this as quickly as possible.

Not only because you're so out of your league but also, you know, it's such a waste of your time.