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When Higher Education Becomes Higher Intolerance (of Non-liberals)


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This is not what higher education and academia are supposed to be...

 

https://unherd.com/thepost/harvard-ranked-as-americas-worst-college-for-free-speech/

Harvard ranked as America’s worst college for free speech

The Ivy League university's approach has been labelled 'abysmal'

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"... liberal students more often reported feeling comfortable expressing themselves across all contexts than did moderate or conservative students."

"This year, 1 in 5 students (20%) reported that they have either “fairly often” or “very often” felt that they could not express their opinion on a subject because of how students, a professor, or the administration would respond...  Racial differences were negligible, with a slightly higher percentage of Black students (21%) than of White, Hispanic, or Asian students (19%, 19%, and 17%, respectively) reporting having often felt that they could not express themselves because of how others would respond. Differences between liberal, moderate, and conservative students are starker (14%, 21%, and 33%, respectively)...."

"More than 1 in 3 conservative students (37%) reported feeling pressure to avoid discussing controversial topics, while 30% of moderate students and 19% of liberal students reported the same."

The percentages of conservatives who report self-censoring in their conversations with other students, in their conversations with professors, and during in-class discussions “fairly often” or “very often” are considerably higher than those of liberal students who self-censor in these contexts at the same rate. They are also higher than the percentages of moderate students who self-censor in these contexts at the same rate:  

In conversations with other students (38% of conservative students; 19% of liberal students; 28% of moderate students)  

In conversations with professors (36% of conservative students; 21% of liberal students; 30% of moderate students)

During in-in class discussions (40% of conservative students; 21% of liberal students; 31% of moderate students) More than one-third of conservative students (38%) also reported that they are more likely to self-censor on campus now — at the time they were surveyed —  than they were when they started college, while 29% of moderate students and 20% of liberal students reported the same.

 

"Overall, a majority of students responded that each liberal speaker should be allowed on campus, ranging from a low of 57% to a high of 72%. Students were consistently less supportive of allowing conservative speakers on campus: These percentages ranged from a high of 43% to a low of 29%. Supporters of free expression on campus should be concerned by these numbers. "

 

"Liberal students were not as welcoming to conservative speakers, however. Only 16% of liberal students supported allowing a speaker on campus who expressed the view, “Black Lives Matter is a hate group”; 17% supported allowing a speaker who expressed the view, “Transgender people have a  mental disorder”; and 32% supported allowing a speaker who expressed the view, “Abortion should  be completely illegal.” A majority of conservative students, on the other hand, said that all six speakers should be allowed on campus: These percentages ranged from a low of 55% (“Religious liberty is used as an excuse to discriminate against gays and lesbians”) to a high of 69% (“Abortion should be completely illegal”)."

 

Almost 3 in 4 liberal students (74%) reported that shouting down a speaker is acceptable to some degree, whereas 58% of moderate students and 47% of conservative students said the same. Further, more than half of liberal students (52%) reported that blocking entry to a campus speech is acceptable to some degree. This represents an increase from 47% last year. The percentages of moderate and conservative students reporting that blocking entry is acceptable to some degree also increased from those of last year. Last year, 31% of moderate students and 25% of conservative students reported that blocking entry is at least rarely acceptable: This year, 40% of moderate students and 33% of conservative students said the same. This pattern also emerged when it comes to students’ level of acceptance of using violence to stop a campus speech. This year, 29% of liberal students, 26% of moderate students, and 23% of conservative students reported that violence is acceptable to some degree. Last year, 25% of liberal students, 18% of moderate students, and 16% of conservative students said the same. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, concha said:

I'd be curious to see the opinions of faculty. My guess is that much of the faculty, especially outside the humanities, engage in a considerable amount of self-censoring. 

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25 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

I'd be curious to see the opinions of faculty. My guess is that much of the faculty, especially outside the humanities, engage in a considerable amount of self-censoring. 

 

Why would they?  The inmates run the asylums.

There is a reason why so any conservative (and moderate) students feel like they can't speak.

 

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56 minutes ago, concha said:

Why would they?  The inmates run the asylums.

You'd think that the students would be the inmates in this analogy.

 

56 minutes ago, concha said:

There is a reason why so any conservative (and moderate) students feel like they can't speak.

And faculty.

There was story posted here not too long ago about a philosophy professor who was fired for refusing to use a student's preferred pronouns. He sued and won, but my guess is that most faculty would rather not fight that fight.

Jordan Peterson became a public figure when he stated that he would not use the preferred pronouns of his students and colleagues, which was met w/ campus protests against him. Most faculty would rather not fight that fight. 

Etc. etc.

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Just now, Belly Bob said:

You'd think that the students would be the inmates in this analogy.

 

And faculty.

There was story posted here not too long ago about a philosophy professor who was fired for refusing to use a student's preferred pronouns. He sued and won, but my guess is that most faculty would rather not fight that fight.

Jordan Peterson became a public figure when he started that he would not use the preferred pronouns of his students and colleagues, which was met w/ campus protests against him. Most faculty would rather not fight that fight. 

Etc. etc.

 

I believe Peterson was actually forced to undergo what was effectively thought conversion "training". It was Canada, but that's the way we're headed. Scary.

 

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1 hour ago, concha said:

 

I believe Peterson was actually forced to undergo what was effectively thought conversion "training". It was Canada, but that's the way we're headed. Scary.

 

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Last I heard it was still a 💩 show...

making him pay for his own "retraining in rightthink"

But Petey is one of the few with FU money and balls enough to fight it,

So he claimed that he'd do it ... but would be filming the whole thing, and publish it (+royalties LOL) for posterity, for the whole world to see... 

🤪

 

PS: might have to check if that ever happened or is still going to ... you know...

... in case I need to visit Canada again.

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7 hours ago, RedZone said:

Higher education at its finest.

 

 

If kari lake or any of these other maga misfits ever gave a speech at Harvard and they shut them down...... that's a major win for Harvard and their students.

Big difference between free speech and lying your ass off speech.

Take that shit to Oral Roberts or someplace. 😄

 

 

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9 hours ago, RedZone said:

Higher education at its finest.

 

 

 

 

On 9/5/2023 at 8:54 PM, FreeBird said:

Ron lmao

 

 

On 9/6/2023 at 6:31 AM, Nolebull813 said:

Imagine being old enough to collect social security, and waking up in piss stained Louisiana every morning, and logging into your government track phone to see what Ron Filpokowski has to say on a daily basis? 😂

 

 

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1 hour ago, RedZone said:

If kari lake or any of these other maga misfits ever gave a speech at Harvard and they shut them down...... that's a major win for Harvard and their students.

Big difference between free speech and lying your ass off speech.

Take that shit to Oral Roberts or someplace. 😄

 

you trying to suggest Joey should go to oral school ?

and harvard should ban him?

or are you just trying to start an argument

wit yerself...in reply to yerself.

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