noonereal Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Mjd33 said: I answered this obama was black bs yesterday. 7-8 reasons. You didn’t refute any of them. l have no such desire to get caught in a stupid game of prove my rhetoric wrong. I played today, you learned, there is only so much effort I can spend on educating. If I am wasting time with facts for someone consumed with defending and advancing his tribe not in acquiring knowledge, I am then limiting my opportunity for growth . I hope you understand what mean by this. I say this in earnest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 12 hours ago, World Citizen said: It leaves me with a "what's the point of talking" feeling when we can read the same thing but somehow the words mean different things. Facts are no longer relevant and reason is an abstract. Of course it's bc he was black. The hate was instant and well before he put any policy in place. Plato vs. the Sophists The universal art of enchanting minds with arguments: Opinion comes from persuasion and not the truth. Truth has a very insecure position in the world. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0172%3Atext%3DTheaet.%3Apage%3D172 http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DPhaedrus%3Apage%3D261 Idk. Just sayin'. It's always been I guess. At least throughout written history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Opinion comes from persuasion and not the truth. and persuasion is born of want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 The crow flies at midnight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Plato vs. the Sophists The universal art of enchanting minds with arguments: Opinion comes from persuasion and not the truth. Truth has a very insecure position in the world. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0172%3Atext%3DTheaet.%3Apage%3D172 http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DPhaedrus%3Apage%3D261 Idk. Just sayin'. It's always been I guess. At least throughout written history. That is a cool website. It might be above my pay grade bc I had to read it several times. Good stuff. Not sure I am that persuasive bc of the entrenched position and hate. Certainly could not of said it better than Obama. I'm amazed. I really am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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